5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Just listened to the full 18 minutes 

Gary spoke really well and the Club knows what is expected  

Our best is Top Shelf, we just don’t play that way for long enough, exactly the way i saw the year  All above the shoulders, and attitude 

 

Is it players, coaching or both Sir?

16 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Is it players, coaching or both Sir?

Both. Everything has to lift in intensity. 
We touched levels that need to be a Standard. We need to play not 1 standout every now and then and then fall back

Leadership has to demand more. 

20 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Is it players, coaching or both Sir?

The million dollar question ey?

I feel like we are still a younger developing side, without a strong group of experienced onfield leaders, so lack of consistency probably comes from that. 

It's the coaches job to change that through ongoing development, and the footy deptartments job to recruit to help.

But there is only 1 winner of 18 each year. Like we've seen with GWS you can be a gun squad who just don't take home the silverware for reasons outside of anyones control. 

We're good at The Chaos.

Not so good at control.

If I see another quarter like we had against Sydeny or Freo (when our seasonwas on the line) I want him gone.

No more Simon the Likeable.

He's had a fair shake 

37 minutes ago, deanox said:

The million dollar question ey?

I feel like we are still a younger developing side, without a strong group of experienced onfield leaders, so lack of consistency probably comes from that. 

It's the coaches job to change that through ongoing development, and the footy deptartments job to recruit to help.

But there is only 1 winner of 18 each year. Like we've seen with GWS you can be a gun squad who just don't take home the silverware for reasons outside of anyones control. 

I feel the coaching group has to have some diverse methods of coaching to get the players to do the non negotiables all the time. Now, that can mean different approaches to different players to achieve the same result. In that area I feel Goodwin is still learning and feeling his way.  He knows what the outcomes should be but doesnt know yet how to get individual players to achieve them for team success. 

Edited November 6, 20205 yr by Half forward flank

17 hours ago, DemonOX said:

I have never been a fan of the talk out of the MFC, maybe because all we have heard for many many seasons is just talk but in saying that I though Pert spoke well. It wasnt just political jargon. Making finals, playing more consistently and the coaches know exactly what is expected of them in season 21.

So the coaches obviously didnt know what was expected of them in 2020

What claptrap!

22 hours ago, Billy said:

Blah blah blah 

Sorry but I felt it was a tear jerk comment session that told us nothing really NEW 

5 minutes ago, Ohio USA - David said:

Sorry but I felt it was a tear jerk comment session that told us nothing really NEW 

Still alive David!  hang in there the end is in sight.

The message has been pretty clear over the last few interviews I’ve listened to. The coaching needs to improve. Make the 8 and win some finals is the expectation. As it should be.

This board have credits in the bank. Being financially independent during Covid is a great achievement. If Pert can get the home base off the ground he’ll be worthy of a knighthood as far as I’m concerned.

The focus is now squarely on the FD where it should be. Sort your s**t out Goodwin or else.

10 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

 

The focus is now squarely on the FD where it should be. Sort your s**t out Goodwin or else.

He’s already had more than enough chances. He’s had 4 good weeks out of 4 years. If this club was really wanting to act ruthlessly, he would have already been given the boot.

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

He’s already had more than enough chances. He’s had 4 good weeks out of 4 years. If this club was really wanting to act ruthlessly, he would have already been given the boot.

I agree. If it had been my choice he would have gone in 2019. I was hoping the change would happen this off season but his contract and the severe soft cap constraints have saved him. 

24 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

If Pert can get the home base off the ground he’ll be worthy of a knighthood as far as I’m concerned.

What does he get if he delivers a premiership?

22 minutes ago, Better days ahead said:

The message has been pretty clear over the last few interviews I’ve listened to. The coaching needs to improve. Make the 8 and win some finals is the expectation. As it should be.

This board have credits in the bank. Being financially independent during Covid is a great achievement. If Pert can get the home base off the ground he’ll be worthy of a knighthood as far as I’m concerned.

The focus is now squarely on the FD where it should be. Sort your s**t out Goodwin or else.

Two points, the Financials are going to be drained with biilding a home base.  My brief reading of our financials is they are a result of selling off the Oakleigh Club and our good investment in the Bentleigh Club. I will take my hat off to Pert if he achieves a home base, however that is what is he has promised to do and  been paid to do. 

2 minutes ago, one_demon said:

What does he get if he delivers a premiership?

Canonised by the pope ?

4 hours ago, Kent said:

So the coaches obviously didnt know what was expected of them in 2020

What claptrap!

Obviously they new (didn’t say they didn’t) they just didn’t come through with the goods.
Given Goody has made finals 1 out of 4 seasons I am in no doubt he knows what is expected more so than any other season he has been in charge. 

58 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Two points, the Financials are going to be drained with biilding a home base. 

That would be very foolish

You can't sell a training base on land you don't own.

Have a look at North's books if you want to see a perfect example of technical insolvency combined with relatively useless assets.

Sure use a little of the money say 20% like the Hawks were planning for Dingley.

i dont even know why Goodwin hasn't been sacked already. Sure his contract is big money but we're going nowhere with him as coach so may as well bite the bullet and get rid of him.

55 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

That would be very foolish

You can't sell a training base on land you don't own.

Have a look at North's books if you want to see a perfect example of technical insolvency combined with relatively useless assets.

Sure use a little of the money say 20% like the Hawks were planning for Dingley.

My point is it is going to cost us money to build and maintain. Therefore a drain on our current position.

23 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You cannot expect anymore from the CEO before Preseason 

The Standards have been set

Now it is up to The Football Department to meet them

I though 'standards' were set in 2015

 

and 2016

and 2017

and 2018 

and 2019

and 2020......

 

This administration and coaching panel have failed to deliver again. It's not the list, we're going nowhere with them in charge.

2 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

He’s already had more than enough chances. He’s had 4 good weeks out of 4 years. If this club was really wanting to act ruthlessly, he would have already been given the boot.

The truth

26 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I though 'standards' were set in 2015

 

and 2016

and 2017

and 2018 

and 2019

and 2020......

 

This administration and coaching panel have failed to deliver again. It's not the list, we're going nowhere with them in charge.

Who do you bring in during a World Pandemic?

You know my feelings. But 2020 has shifted goalposts 

I still believe Pert has raised the bar

On 11/5/2020 at 11:28 PM, Billy said:

Blah blah blah 

Just moving the deck chairs.

 

Does anyone know how many premierships Pert, Richardson, and Mahoney, having either played, coached, or been an administrator?

9 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I though 'standards' were set in 2015

 

and 2016

and 2017

and 2018 

and 2019

and 2020......

 

This administration and coaching panel have failed to deliver again. It's not the list, we're going nowhere with them in charge.

Spot on.

5 hours ago, Hellofatime said:

Just moving the deck chairs.

 

Does anyone know how many premierships Pert, Richardson, and Mahoney, having either played, coached, or been an administrator?

2

Mahoney - played in Port's 2004 flag

Pert - CEO of Collingwood in 2010

Richardson missed the Pies 1990 win after breaking his collarbone the game before.

16 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

My point is it is going to cost us money to build and maintain. Therefore a drain on our current position.

Is that you Gabrielle zondy? that is what you said when the Holden centre was offered to Melbourne before Collingwood took it, he said no thanks too expensive to maintain.

Edited November 7, 20205 yr by don't make me angry