Coq au vin 755 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, picket fence said: Good onya Wayne, so I'm not entitled to a reasoned opinion?? Not reasoned. Complete balls hit. Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Viney had a great season and is an essential player. He’s Melbourne through and through. A leader despite having the captain mantle unceremoniously removed. Trading him Would be worse than delisting Junior McDonald. Good on you Jack Viney! A hero of our club! 7 Quote
DeeZone 10,590 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, DeeZee said: Very glad he has signed on and clearly wants to be a Demon for life. Players like this don’t grow on trees. Gawn, Viney, Petracca, Oliver, May, Salem and Langdon are absolutely core players and must keep along with our young talent in Rivers, Pickett, Jackson, Fritsch I couldn't agree more DeeZee, Jack is the jewel in the crown and now a Dee for life couldn't be happier just looking for a few more signatures to trickle through and my anxiety levels will drop right off Well done Jack and Dee's for getting this done - keep up the great work.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 1 Quote
picket fence 18,186 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, waynewussell said: I'm over here, on the other side of the road! Ok Got it Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said: Was just being cheeky, Picket. I'll bring it out when he's holding up the cup in 5 years time. I have to wait five years? doubt I will make it! 1 1 Quote
Pulp Fritschon 774 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Great news - he truely is one of us! Dees through and through Any success he had elsewhere would have felt so hollow. Great decision Jack. Go Dees 2 1 Quote
nosoupforme 3,085 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, old dee said: I have to wait five years? doubt I will make it! You will, have faith. old dee. Edited October 6, 2020 by nosoupforme 1 1 Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, old dee said: This is one player that had to stay at the club, for Viney to leave It would have just been a bridge too far. Is he worth a five contract probably not. But and it is a big but he is a Viney, previous captain and a current vice captain. Who played his heart when we could not beat time with a stick. If he had walked I suggest a large number of members would have walked as well. There is IMO more to his signature than just his playing ability. Very well said 4 Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, titan_uranus said: On balance great news. I'm wary about the 5th year and the role we intend to deploy him in, but the latter is completely within our control and if we do it right, we can make it work. Just such utter rubbish. GWS is a perfect example of how classy players aren't enough. Look at Richmond's recent premiership 22s: players like David Astbury, Dyan Grimes, Brandon Ellis, Toby Nankervis, Liam Baker, Kamdyn McIntosh and Jack Graham were in those sides. Not exactly "classy", but very much "heart and soul". And as to the "season stats", none of which you've cited, here are some: 11th in the comp for CPs per game; 12th in the comp for clearances per game; 8th in the comp for inside 50s per game; 13th in the comp for centre clearances per game. In all of those stats, the players above him are almost universally the competition's elite players (we're talking Oliver, Petracca, Fyfe, Neale, Cripps, Dangerfield, Bontempelli, Adams, Treloar, Liberatore, Naitanui). And whilst he did, fairly, finish equal second for turnovers per game, the players around him are also elite (Prestia, Treloar, Martin, Petracca and Brodie Smith are all equal-4th or higher on that metric). Great post. Some people just don’t want to accept facts, a bit like Dan Andrews supporters 1 Quote
Jack7 528 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Onya Jack-LEGEND Now can we trade Brayshaw,Oscar & AVB for Ben King Top 4 if we do!!! Quote
Dame Gaga 2,453 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Now the contract is done and dusted and his house is in order, looking forward to seeing an injury free Jack rekindle his 2018 form and help Melbourne get back in the finals and further onwards and upwards. 2021❤️? 2 Quote
Beetle 4,739 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Forget the years, had to happen. Heart and soul player. I feel better for the signing. Good on you Jack. 10 Quote
Hunt29 297 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Great to see Viney re sign. Great to see the loyalty and that he has taken the whole losing captaincy saga and got on with it. 5 years probably means he has taken less $. 4 Quote
Dees247 140 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, wizardinoz said: No, why would you? The guy is a gun & our midfield will have injuries at some point in the season. True, but I just think we could get more value from a similarly rated player, in a different position Quote
KLV 1,768 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Coq au vin said: Viney had a great season and is an essential player. He’s Melbourne through and through. A leader despite having the captain mantle unceremoniously removed. Trading him Would be worse than delisting Junior McDonald. Good on you Jack Viney! A hero of our club! Don’t often agree with you gourmet chicken, but yes, it would have been a PR disaster if he had left 1 Quote
DubDee 26,675 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, dl4e said: Glad he signed on but 5 years is too long. Why do you say that? Sign him for 3 years. Then sign him for 2 or 3 years after that. What’s the difference? 1 Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Great news and in my opinion indicates he has confidence in where we are heading or he would have walked. 1 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,024 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Genuinely surprised by the overwhelming positive response to this news. 4 Quote
Adam The God 30,735 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 On the surface it's one year too many, but I would have thought we'd front load at least the first 2-3 years quite heavily. I like that he's signed from a culture stand point. I remain staunch in my belief that he needs to play forward or defensive mid/tagger. I'd be happy if he was collecting 15 possessions a game as long as he's mauling the opposition in the tackle count and making the right decisions when he does win the ball. My best 22 would have him starting in the forward pocket alongside Pickett and Weideman. 5 Quote
Devil In Disguise 2,284 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Jack7 said: Onya Jack-LEGEND Now can we trade Brayshaw,Oscar & AVB for Ben King Top 4 if we do!!! Why do we need a King when we have a Jackson?? 3 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 10 hours ago, picket fence said: No, bookmark my comment coz I reckon this decision will come back and bite BIG TIME! Still haven't answered my question PF What is the bite going to be ? Tell us all Why are you predicting doom because of this ONE decision that if not completed NOW would have set our future 5 years Back irreparably and the momentum gained in 2021 ( more than many are finding in their reviews ) especially with our IMO elite draftees Riv Dogga and Kossie, and youth eg Lockhart Fritsch plus Sparrow etc. Our development of players is far more a worry than you classifying one of our true legends resigning fir 5 years a disaster !!! Mark my words this will be a filip fir all if you really look at the counter side of Jack not recommitting. But prey tell WHY it will be so Biting for us??? PF Quote
Demon17 5,262 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Lord Travis said: good result for the club as he is definitely a heart and soul player. Now we need to balance the midfield better and play Jack to his strengths. Agree and I love his heart for the fight(just like his Dad). But gee I hope someone helps him with his right side over the term of his future with us. 2 Quote
picket fence 18,186 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 16 hours ago, Billy said: Don’t be ridiculous, l agree 5 years is to much, but you don’t offer a 1 year deal to a player that just finished 3rd in the b&f Unless the vote givers have blinkers on! As I put up his stats for the year previously compared to Oliver in fact I would say his year was nowhere near a 3 rd in B&F ! Go on check his stats for yourself. I and other rated Oliver as easily 3rd in B & F. 2 years would have been enough with clear trigger for a third. 5 years for Viney? Unbelievable! 2 Quote
picket fence 18,186 Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 5 hours ago, 58er said: Still haven't answered my question PF What is the bite going to be ? Tell us all Why are you predicting doom because of this ONE decision that if not completed NOW would have set our future 5 years Back irreparably and the momentum gained in 2021 ( more than many are finding in their reviews ) especially with our IMO elite draftees Riv Dogga and Kossie, and youth eg Lockhart Fritsch plus Sparrow etc. Our development of players is far more a worry than you classifying one of our true legends resigning fir 5 years a disaster !!! Mark my words this will be a filip fir all if you really look at the counter side of Jack not recommitting. But prey tell WHY it will be so Biting for us??? PF Ok, because you have put money into a limited footballer with the potential of little to no improvement. His game has not evolved from day 1 1 Tries to take on player after player after player and more often than not gets caught or is panicked into a poor disposal. 2 Will not honour the first option, or second 3 Kicking is adequate but not elite 4 No Right side 5 Too one dimensional. 6 What if ... His foot injuries return? Ok thats my take on WHY this decision will bite us. IMV Take it or leave it! Ok over to you, can you give me 5 Compelling reasons for a 5 year deal??? 2 Quote
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