DeeZone 10,574 Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 Yeah, nah. Me thinks not, Gus, Jack, James, Clayton & Christian are pretty tight and why would you want to split them up??? 3 Quote
wattsindawes 57 Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 22 hours ago, Half forward flank said: I would consider Polec for Brayshaw Must be trolling Quote
goodwindees 2,586 Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 10:31 PM, drysdale demon said: I am Just because you have absolutely no contacts in even low places, you just believe what you want to. 2 Quote
Fork 'em 7,052 Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Biffen said: Keep losing, wasting everyones time and all our guns will leave. The past two years are enough losing. If we have so many guns why do we keep losing? Surely some of the responsibilty goes on them. Edited September 26, 2020 by Fork 'em Quote
58er 6,870 Posted September 26, 2020 Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Fork 'em said: If we have so many guns why do we keep losing? Surely some of the responsibilty goes on them. My guess or opinion is that our output this year was very good from our Guns Aand B graders ie top 10/12 in the B andF zBUT our last 6/8 in the team did not provide the depth and support we expected and needed. I class Hannan Harmes Jetta AVB ANB Smith and Oscar in this category. Hunt Has a level he can go to like the lady game Baker When tried was a pleasant surprise and other than his disposal on some occasions was a little ragged plus Spargo put together 2 great games vs Woods and Giants Where he hit the scoreboard but was not so prominent in a couple of the othersBut Charlie generally can be defensive but we need much more than that consistently. He had developed and 2031 should see that even further. Thats why we should be looking at 3 of Ben Brown or Joe Daniher or Jarrod Polec Or AdamSaad or Will Brodie or Peter Wright ( if Pruess goes). Our depth is a myth except for Sparrow as we don't know how Jordan or Bedford Will be fir to lack of opportunity, All players have room for development and the Assistant Coaches need to be Replaced to give fresh ideas and break down Goody's stubborn approach to players and roles within the team and to have major input in our Game Plan for 2012 and beyond. 3 Quote
Half forward flank 1,022 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 13 hours ago, wattsindawes said: Must be trolling How so? Quote
Half forward flank 1,022 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 14 hours ago, DeeZee said: Brayshaw has much more upside than Polec. My brother an avid Nth supporter, says Polec is good but slowing down and losing his speed and run. If we did this trade we would regret it. Oh well, that settles that. Your brother, the Kangas fan says he is slowing. Interesting, has he seen him live this year. Maybe we would, that can happen, remeber Brayshaw is one head know from being finished. Quote
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 9 hours ago, goodwindees said: Just because you have absolutely no contacts in even low places, you just believe what you want to. Well, I think I will just cry now. Quote
wattsindawes 57 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Half forward flank said: How so? Why would you trade for a guy who has similar career stats but is three years older and has been to three clubs? No upside in swapping the two. Is Polec a leader? No is he a match winner? No Is he a team player? From all accounts No... Statistical comparison of the two in the link below, based over a career so far it’s even pegging. Even if you compared on this season and Brayshaw hasn’t been at his best and they are neck and neck - It’s Brayshaw everyday of the week for mine, you’d only consider Polec if you didn’t have to give up much. A swap of players doesn’t make any sense. Brayshaw has a higher ceiling and is 3 years younger. https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?comparisonTab=h2h&playerIds=CD_I290738,CD_I298279 4 Quote
Half forward flank 1,022 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, wattsindawes said: Why would you trade for a guy who has similar career stats but is three years older and has been to three clubs? No upside in swapping the two. Is Polec a leader? No is he a match winner? No Is he a team player? From all accounts No... Statistical comparison of the two in the link below, based over a career so far it’s even pegging. Even if you compared on this season and Brayshaw hasn’t been at his best and they are neck and neck - It’s Brayshaw everyday of the week for mine, you’d only consider Polec if you didn’t have to give up much. A swap of players doesn’t make any sense. Brayshaw has a higher ceiling and is 3 years younger. https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?comparisonTab=h2h&playerIds=CD_I290738,CD_I298279 Thats why I said consider? Brayshaw is one head knock from being finished and unlikely to play for another 5-6 years the way he plays. Quote
Half forward flank 1,022 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, drysdale demon said: Well, I think I will just cry now. It would be a break on snipping. 1 3 Quote
picket fence 18,160 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 I thought this was a thread about Clayton Oliver? 4 1 Quote
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Half forward flank said: It would be a break on snipping. I'm not a hairdresser pal, I haven't snipped anyone. 1 2 Quote
loges 6,767 Posted September 27, 2020 Posted September 27, 2020 13 hours ago, 58er said: My guess or opinion is that our output this year was very good from our Guns Aand B graders ie top 10/12 in the B andF zBUT our last 6/8 in the team did not provide the depth and support we expected and needed. I class Hannan Harmes Jetta AVB ANB Smith and Oscar in this category. Hunt Has a level he can go to like the lady game Baker When tried was a pleasant surprise and other than his disposal on some occasions was a little ragged plus Spargo put together 2 great games vs Woods and Giants Where he hit the scoreboard but was not so prominent in a couple of the othersBut Charlie generally can be defensive but we need much more than that consistently. He had developed and 2031 should see that even further. Thats why we should be looking at 3 of Ben Brown or Joe Daniher or Jarrod Polec Or AdamSaad or Will Brodie or Peter Wright ( if Pruess goes). Our depth is a myth except for Sparrow as we don't know how Jordan or Bedford Will be fir to lack of opportunity, All players have room for development and the Assistant Coaches need to be Replaced to give fresh ideas and break down Goody's stubborn approach to players and roles within the team and to have major input in our Game Plan for 2012 and beyond. Nice to see you're giving Spargo plenty of time Quote
monoccular 17,756 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 12:12 PM, Half forward flank said: It would be a break on snipping. On 9/27/2020 at 4:19 PM, drysdale demon said: I'm not a hairdresser pal, I haven't snipped anyone. Maybe a mohel? 2 Quote
nosoupforme 3,085 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) On 9/23/2020 at 11:53 PM, Tom Dyson said: I would not handle losing Oliver at all, really hope this is all just conjecture and Mcclure trying to stay relevant. Tracc talked about Oliver and himself stepping up into the more mature leader type role. Can't see any credibility in this story at all and Mcclure should get an absolute serve for this if it isnt true. Petracca stays Oliver does too it is simple. 2 peas in a pod. Mcclure the dribbling dreamer ! Edited September 28, 2020 by nosoupforme 3 Quote
drysdale demon 4,837 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 11 hours ago, monoccular said: Maybe a mohel? Nah, I was banned by synagogues 1 Quote
Ouch! 2,276 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Before this thread goes back to being about Oliver, curious why the rumour about a player wanting to explore trades made everyone jump to think about our mids, Surely it makes more sense and the media has already indicated this that it is probably more likely to be a rumour regarding Pruess or TMac? Both have a couple of years to run don't they? 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 One of the gronky Facebook pages is reporting Oliver is disappointed with finishing 5th in the BnF and has therefore requested a trade. Utter rubbish from the Member's End, but thought I'd put it out there anyway. 1 1 Quote
Foopy on the telly 534 Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, A F said: One of the gronky Facebook pages is reporting Oliver is disappointed with finishing 5th in the BnF and has therefore requested a trade. Utter rubbish from the Member's End, but thought I'd put it out there anyway. I know which page you’re talking about, it’s a satire page which older people take seriously for some reason. 1 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, A F said: One of the gronky Facebook pages is reporting Oliver is disappointed with finishing 5th in the BnF and has therefore requested a trade. Utter rubbish from the Member's End, but thought I'd put it out there anyway. There's just no way he goes to the Blues. If he's still unsigned near the end of 2021 I'll be worried of course. Tom Morris was on a podcast a few days ago though saying that Oliver was angry about finishing 5th in the Bluey. His opinion was that's just how he is. He's a competitor, maybe a bit immature and has the ego that goes with those things. He was saying he didn't think any of it was a reflection on the club or Goodwin. 2 Quote
adonski 13,235 Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, nacnud said: I know which page you’re talking about, it’s a satire page which older people take seriously for some reason. It it the paper that proposed a swap over Anthony McDonald Tippa and Sloane at one stage? Or something like that? Think I know the one you're thinking of haha Quote
Foopy on the telly 534 Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, adonski said: It it the paper that proposed a swap over Anthony McDonald Tippa and Sloane at one stage? Or something like that? Think I know the one you're thinking of haha Yeah that’ll be the one Quote
dazzledavey36 56,266 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 Interesting what you find on Essendon bigfooty.. “One of my friends knows a few fox footy commentators. There’s truth to the Oliver rumour. But it does look like Carlton are in the box seat for him. Not sure how they’ll manage Williams, Oliver and Saad. In addition to all the players they’ve just re-signed, and no clarity on what the cap will be, so we’ll see how that goes.” With a bit of follow up.. “That he [Oliver] isn’t happy at the Dees and would be open to a trade. Dees are apparently looking to get into the first round for draft picks. And would consider a deal (that was obviously good for them). Viney, Brayshaw and Oliver were all options. But Oliver was the one more open to a move.” 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,266 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 All I will say is that I would not be surprised if there is legs to this rumour. Garry Lyon has been hinting at a potential bombshell trade that's about to hit, and with his links to Melbourne, I would not be surprised if this is the Oliver to Blues rumour that's swirling around. Quote
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