1 hour ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Trac, Clarry and Gawn are our only untradable players in my opinion, the rest if the price is right i'd be happy to consider offers

I agree with the first two mate. Haha.

Come on, Moonie. Join me over here in the book nook. I'm also wearing some prescription glasses when it comes to Gawn. 

I'd trade Max if the right offer came along, but the club won't do it and I doubt there'd be a good enough offer on the market. 

Max for Merrett and Saad I'd do though. ;)

49 minutes ago, A F said:

I agree with the first two mate. Haha.

Come on, Moonie. Join me over here in the book nook. I'm also wearing some prescription glasses when it comes to Gawn. 

I'd trade Max if the right offer came along, but the club won't do it and I doubt there'd be a good enough offer on the market. 

Max for Merrett and Saad I'd do though. ;)

I loved this Max fox footy graphic so much that I had to pause and rewind repeatedly to catch it in the split second. Seems an apt response here ?

 

Edited October 4, 20204 yr by John Demonic

3 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Trac, Clarry and Gawn are our only untradable players in my opinion, the rest if the price is right i'd be happy to consider offers

I’d argue Clarry and Trac are more easily replaceable than May, but wouldn’t trade any of the 3.

I reckon the ruck role is less significant than ever, so Max could be done for the right deal

1 hour ago, BW511 said:

I’d argue Clarry and Trac are more easily replaceable than May, but wouldn’t trade any of the 3.

I reckon the ruck role is less significant than ever, so Max could be done for the right deal

It's very difficult to get elite talent like Clarry and Trac. We've never had two midfielders as good as them in my 33 years following the club, whereas very good ruckmen can be brought in off the rookie list. Time and again we've seen this. Midfields win flags.

Edited October 4, 20204 yr by A F

On 10/2/2020 at 10:20 AM, Action Jackson said:

SEN reporting that Tom McDonald plans to stay and wants to drop some weight so he is more mobile.

Oscar will be traded though it seems, probably for a 3rd or 4th rounder I would think.

I love this. When someone posted his 2018 highlights here, I couldn't believe how lean he was.

I know he's looked pretty cooked the last couple of seasons, but he's just such a unique player at his best and I'd hate for us to be be paying half of his salary to be torching us on the G' next season. 

48 minutes ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

I love this. When someone posted his 2018 highlights here, I couldn't believe how lean he was.

I know he's looked pretty cooked the last couple of seasons, but he's just such a unique player at his best and I'd hate for us to be be paying half of his salary to be torching us on the G' next season. 

Yeah I find TMac and the forward situation interesting.

If he can get some agility and running capacity back he would have trade value but would be worth keeping - his general fitness will be handy if the game lengths go back to normal.  If he can't recover his agilty, he's not worth keeping and wouldn't have much trade currency.  Looks like next year will be his last chance (with us or anyone else).  

This year there appears to be a lot of big name key forwards that may be gettable.  Maybe some are NQR but often a new club is what they need - Danither, Brown, Cameron etc are all big names that have been in the top group of players at the peak of their powers.  Not against us going after one.  But at the same time, I feel like most of the key forwards are FF and i think this is weid's best position.  What is the Weid's ceiling if we get everything else right? 

I think our issue is really the CHF connection (arguably about the midfielders more than forwards).  So ironically maybe a fit (and agile) TMac (and doubly ironically a Hogan) would be better for our team than one of the aforementioned  key forwards if it means we can chase some run and class through the middle instead of landing one of the big (but NQR) fish.

But if we don't land a key forward this trade period, we are clearly going all in on Weid, Tmac (our) Brown and Petty which doesn't fill me with confidence after the last 2 years.

On 10/3/2020 at 11:45 PM, DemonLad5 said:

I’d consider dealing Brayshaw or Oliver if it means we have the cap space and currency to bring someone  of high quality in the door..

Anyone as good as Clarry????

Not Merrett or anyone else I can think of.

Clarry eill get better mark my words when we get decent coaches. So would Angus!!

15 hours ago, A F said:

Come on, Moonie. Join me over here in the book nook. I'm also wearing some prescription glasses when it comes to Gawn. 

I'd trade Max if the right offer came along, but the club won't do it and I doubt there'd be a good enough offer on the market. 

Max for Merrett and Saad I'd do though. ;)

You're kidding, right?

Here's the glasses you must be wearing:

Really wanna give Tmac a bit of a pump up! 

it's been a very hard year for the big fella, young child, in the hub, not playing good footy, not having confidence in his body. 

He's got plenty of interest out there, so for him to decide he wants to get back to his best with the MFC is awesome in my opinion. 

I really do hope that Burgo can get him onto a great program, a full pre season and we can see 2018 TMAC again because if he can get back to that form, and Weideman continues to develop suddenly our forward half looks a heck of a lot more dangerous. 

Lewis Jetta has fallen out of favour at WCE. I haven’t followed his form closely but he could be a player worth looking at. 

14 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Lewis Jetta has fallen out of favour at WCE. I haven’t followed his form closely but he could be a player worth looking at. 

I think he will be 32 by the time the season comes around and is way to inconsistent.

20 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Really wanna give Tmac a bit of a pump up! 

it's been a very hard year for the big fella, young child, in the hub, not playing good footy, not having confidence in his body. 

He's got plenty of interest out there, so for him to decide he wants to get back to his best with the MFC is awesome in my opinion. 

I really do hope that Burgo can get him onto a great program, a full pre season and we can see 2018 TMAC again because if he can get back to that form, and Weideman continues to develop suddenly our forward half looks a heck of a lot more dangerous. 

Hope you're right... but there's a reasonable chance his body is cooked.  Do we know he has plenty of interest out there?  He's done very little since 2018.

21 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Really wanna give Tmac a bit of a pump up! 

it's been a very hard year for the big fella, young child, in the hub, not playing good footy, not having confidence in his body. 

He's got plenty of interest out there, so for him to decide he wants to get back to his best with the MFC is awesome in my opinion. 

I really do hope that Burgo can get him onto a great program, a full pre season and we can see 2018 TMAC again because if he can get back to that form, and Weideman continues to develop suddenly our forward half looks a heck of a lot more dangerous. 

Hasn’t Tom basically got fused ankles from operations?

I’m unable to see how dropping weight is going to help his agility if his ankles mobility is severely restricted. 

Yy

On 10/4/2020 at 4:35 PM, Half forward flank said:

I would not trade May. He cares about winning and losing.

I would not trade Langdon.

Ok so we have 5/6 absolute untouchables who have delivered.

Happy with that and we should pay them very handsomely. If we don’t others will.

If we lose any of them, it doesn’t do much for our brand, our supporters, the playing group and it tears the heart out of the club.

This was always what we hoped for wasn’t it , to have a core of 1/2 dozen leaders that at least make us competitive and to be able to build further on that?

Ex new recruits  ,the rest of our playing group are under the spotlight as they simply haven’t delivered.

 

 

 

 

On 10/4/2020 at 5:28 PM, A F said:

I agree with the first two mate. Haha.

Come on, Moonie. Join me over here in the book nook. I'm also wearing some prescription glasses when it comes to Gawn. 

I'd trade Max if the right offer came along, but the club won't do it and I doubt there'd be a good enough offer on the market. 

Max for Merrett and Saad I'd do though. ;)

Can't agree A F, Max is untouchable because he's more than just his value as a player (which is obviously immense).

He's our most marketable asset IMO and as well as being the captain he's also the spiritual leader and is a real 'father' figure to a lot of the younger guys. His tenacity and attitude to training etc is invaluable.

2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I think he will be 32 by the time the season comes around and is way to inconsistent.

My view on veterans is that they offer are better value return than draft picks. Geelong's model is the one to follow. The Cats have managed to beat the system by attracting veterans to help them stay in the finals race. This success means that their stars take less money. And in an era of free agency, being successful also helps attract quality free agents. The Cat's short-term strategy also has shown to have long term rewards.

This is not to say Lewis Jetta is the player to target, as he might be finished, but he has pace and skill, which we are lacking.

8 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

My view on veterans is that they offer are better value return than draft picks. Geelong's model is the one to follow. The Cats have managed to beat the system by attracting veterans to help them stay in the finals race. This success means that their stars take less money. And in an era of free agency, being successful also helps attract quality free agents. The Cat's short-term strategy also has shown to have long term rewards.

This is not to say Lewis Jetta is the player to target, as he might be finished, but he has pace and skill, which we are lacking.

I agree that you use veterans to continue to stay around the mark and be competitive at the pointy end of the season but Geelong has also shown us that it may not be good enough to win it. 

3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I agree that you use veterans to continue to stay around the mark and be competitive at the pointy end of the season but Geelong has also shown us that it may not be good enough to win it. 

Agree, but would take their record over the last 10 years of playing finals most years. They are always there about

11 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I agree that you use veterans to continue to stay around the mark and be competitive at the pointy end of the season but Geelong has also shown us that it may not be good enough to win it. 

The Hawks have had a similar model and won 3. They have really only fallen off the perch since they started cutting their veterans. 

3 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

The Hawks have had a similar model and won 3. They have really only fallen off the perch since they started cutting their veterans. 

Known commodities to play specific roles versus unknown kids, it's a sensible play

7 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

The Hawks have had a similar model and won 3. They have really only fallen off the perch since they started cutting their veterans. 

Hawthorn only won them through the years when the draft was heavily compromised which impacted the clubs around them 

On 10/4/2020 at 5:28 PM, A F said:

I agree with the first two mate. Haha.

Come on, Moonie. Join me over here in the book nook. I'm also wearing some prescription glasses when it comes to Gawn. 

I'd trade Max if the right offer came along, but the club won't do it and I doubt there'd be a good enough offer on the market. 

Max for Merrett and Saad I'd do though. ;)

Gee I'm glad you don't work for the club. This is cultural suicide in a team which lacks enough of it already. 

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

The Hawks have had a similar model and won 3. They have really only fallen off the perch since they started cutting their veterans. 

thats not why they've fallen off the perch, the pre-existing talent they had and all the veterans they recruited were in the same age bracket therefore they all came to the end of their careers at the same time. and due to their successes everyone behind them on the list was unproven, unseen at senior level and now theyve lost all the veterans as a natural outcome they're left with no strong foundations to rebuild from

1 hour ago, Turner said:

thats not why they've fallen off the perch, the pre-existing talent they had and all the veterans they recruited were in the same age bracket therefore they all came to the end of their careers at the same time. and due to their successes everyone behind them on the list was unproven, unseen at senior level and now theyve lost all the veterans as a natural outcome they're left with no strong foundations to rebuild from

Very much the same situation with the Australian cricket team and when they windies greats retired!

Is it worth talking about Parfitt? Doubtful that he will leave Geelong but still remains unsigned. Would add a point of difference to our midfield with his speed and would do so relatively cheaply.