i think it's a good thing that the newest franchise have put a line in the sand

cameron has been their 'marquee' (albeit low key) player for a long time; as recently as midway thru this weird season they were saying that there was nothing to see, he was staying, etc. etc.

you can imagine that the change of his intentions threw them for a loop and completely disrupts their plans

hope they make jeerlong pay thru the nose

Fantastic news for the competition. And it wouldn't completely surprise me if Geelong decides that they've all of a sudden fallen out of love with Jeremy. 

The AFL will compensate themselves very highly for Cameron, no doubt. 
If Joe is worth Pick 7...

13 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I was also thinking that if GWS get Ratugolea (who reportedly they want) they are less likely to want TMac.  And we could be waiting for GWS trades to do North (or other) trades.  Just guessing but we and other teams could be held up by GWS matching.

I don't care LH imo it is good someone is  prepared to stand up to the likes of Geelong.

39 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

With GWS matching it means the timeline is no longer in the FA period and falls into the Trade period ie until November 12, more than two weeks away.

It has the potential to hold up a range of other deals with GWS waiting to know what picks/players it gets back so it can decide list needs and whether to use those picks for other trades eg Preuss, TMac etc

Yep, I reckon this'll hold up trades for us.

Pretty good coin for a 24 goal forward. Don't think gws really want to pay that much for him but they have called the cats bluff after they committed to him. Awesome to see. 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Why do Jeelong spell their name with a “G” is more the question...?

George, Giants, Gypsies, Gents ...

How do you pronounce this letter: G?

Gee as in Geelong.

Edited October 31, 20204 yr by Pollyanna

Agree with the posters saying that it's likely to hold up our trades. Could work for or against us, too soon to tell so not much point in working ourselves into a state of angst.

I'm happy with Giants matching. It may cause a few delays but not only does it mean Geelong don't get a freebie, but it will bleed them of at least one and possibly two of their first round picks. Giants don't want to draft 7-8 kids in one hit so will try and pry a young talent like Parfitt out of the cats. If that fails, which I think it will, it will mean they have plenty of 1st and 2nd round picks and could be open to swapping one for a package deal we can offer. There have been a few permutations thrown around here, but a future 2nd, Preuss and Avb - or whatever is the latest mail is - could get us back into the first round.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The AFL will compensate themselves very highly for Cameron, no doubt. 
If Joe is worth Pick 7...

Of course not. 

Hope the Giants bleed Geelong dry in any Cameron deal.

So glad they matched the offer  (was no doubt engineered by AFL HQ).

How many “champion” forwards have GWS had

bloke who went to Footscray and won a flag

Patton

Cameron

wasnt there a Johnno Rourke - think he kicked a bag against the Pies. 
 

We’ve had Neita and Michael Newton 

13 minutes ago, radar said:

wasnt there a Johnno Rourke - think he kicked a bag against the Pies. 
 

He was a midfielder, who has subsequently been de-listed by the Dorks

2 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

George, Giants, Gypsies, Gents ...

How do you pronounce this letter: G?

Gee as in Geelong.

They were always "gunners" in my day until i think PF turned up.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Of course not. 

Joe going is just a leg up for TWSNBN

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The AFL will compensate themselves very highly for Cameron, no doubt. 
If Joe is worth Pick 7...

No, he will now have to be traded, so no compo pick involved.

15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

No, he will now have to be traded, so no compo pick involved.

Yes i know. But GW$ will get out of it nicely. 
the AFL don’t want their baby to become useless

6 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I was also thinking that if GWS get Ratugolea (who reportedly they want) they are less likely to want TMac.  And we could be waiting for GWS trades to do North (or other) trades.  Just guessing but we and other teams could be held up by GWS matching.

Unless we get involved as a third party to help facilitate.

GWS want fair compensation for losing Cameron, they won’t be fussed if the entirety of that compensation comes from Geelong.

Edited October 31, 20204 yr by ChaserJ

5 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Hope the Giants bleed Geelong dry in any Cameron deal.

So glad they matched the offer  (was no doubt engineered by AFL HQ).

Surely you couldn’t be suggesting that the AFL, Gil’s AFL, would be involved with any shonky underhanded manipulation  of the rules, to favour one particular club?? ???

Edited October 31, 20204 yr by monoccular

11 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Unless we get involved as a third party to help facilitate.

GWS want fair compensation for losing Cameron, they won’t be fussed if the entirety of that compensation comes from Geelong.

Good point.  We are well placed to facilitate as Alex McDonald is player manager for Cameron and TMac (for whom GWS have apparent interest) and Preuss is off to GWS. 

Hypothetically, I could see a trade where we get a 1st round pick from Geelong and send a combo of Preuss/TMac/player x, to GWS and they get other pick(s) from Geelong.  Player x could be Vanders, as it puts him closer to his family and family business in NSW.  Pick 15 from geelong, anyone? In my hypothetical it would more likely be 18 but one can hope.

If gWS can't get their 'preferred' players from geelong (Parfitt and Ratugolea) Vanders and TMac would be similar position players.

Edited October 31, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

16 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

We are well placed to facilitate as Alex McDonald is player manager for Cameron and TMac (for whom GWS have apparent interest) and Preuss is off to GWS. 

Hypothetically, I could see we get a 1st round pick from Geelong and send a combo of Preuss/TMac/player x, to GWS and they get other pick(s) from Geelong.  Player x could be Vanders, as it puts him closer to his family and family business in NSW.  Pick 18 from geelong, anyone?

If gWS can't get their 'preferred' players from geelong (Parfitt and Ratugolea) Vanders and TMac would be similar position players.

Would TMac + Pruess be a better outcome than Hogan + Ratugolea (if the trade goes via WA / Clarke etc)

For GWS, I’d say yes

9 minutes ago, No10 said:

Would TMac + Pruess be a better outcome than Hogan + Ratugolea (if the trade goes via WA / Clarke etc)

For GWS, I’d say yes

So many options.  Apparently Menegola has said he is happy to go back to Freo so Geelong can deal hm and Clarke to Freo but maybe they would want Freo's 1st round pick in return.   So many options...

Hopefully, the Cameron trade gets done quickly so it doesn't hold up everything else.

Edited October 31, 20204 yr by Lucifer's Hero

 

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

If they do their destination club status would take a huge hit.

Nice bit of click bait from Ralphy though...