Hawthorn owe us a second rounder, given Gunston is 29 next month would them keeping that pick for Gunston be too much? I feel it probably is.

Edited September 16, 20204 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Jack Gunston.  207 games. 394 goals. 3x Premiership player. 2018 All Australian. 27 goals this year in a team placed 16th.  
He would walk into our side as the best forward option. No argument.  Will be 29 at start of 2021.  I’d offer him a 4-year deal no question.  He would easily be a 40+ goalkicker in a regular season.  I can’t see why offering Hawks a future 2nd rounder 2021 pick is paying overs. I think they might be insulted.  He is a very very good player.  

  On 16/09/2020 at 23:15, spirit of norm smith said:

Jack Gunston.  207 games. 394 goals. 3x Premiership player. 2018 All Australian. 27 goals this year in a team placed 16th.  
He would walk into our side as the best forward option. No argument.  Will be 29 at start of 2021.  I’d offer him a 4-year deal no question.  He would easily be a 40+ goalkicker in a regular season.  I can’t see why offering Hawks a future 2nd rounder 2021 pick is paying overs. I think they might be insulted.  He is a very very good player.  

This. Have him in a heartbeat.

  On 10/09/2020 at 06:32, Half forward flank said:

In a heart beat. Class player

K' noath!

 

  On 11/09/2020 at 00:06, Red and Blue realist said:

mith's retirement fund, even before his injury he'd dropped off a fair bit this year, and with speed as his main weapon slowing I

Sadly true. Those levels of skills, combined, do not linger, long. It will be a rapid sunset, most likely.He ain't no Jordan Lewis, either. 

  On 16/09/2020 at 23:15, spirit of norm smith said:

Jack Gunston.  207 games. 394 goals. 3x Premiership player. 2018 All Australian. 27 goals this year in a team placed 16th.  
He would walk into our side as the best forward option. No argument.  Will be 29 at start of 2021.  I’d offer him a 4-year deal no question.  He would easily be a 40+ goalkicker in a regular season.  I can’t see why offering Hawks a future 2nd rounder 2021 pick is paying overs. I think they might be insulted.  He is a very very good player.  

We got Rivers with a 2nd round pick. Gunston might have 3-4 years left, Rivers should have 12-15 years all things considered. That's why.

Terrific player but I reckon the target should be those between 18 and 25.

In theory this is the when players have their most upside and perhaps not cruelled by injuries.

We have plenty of guys already in that 28 plus age group. Hibberd, Melksham, Vanders, May, Max, Brown, TMac, Nev, etc. They rarely get better.

Go the Ajax model and have four or five classy, experienced guys. The rest young and ambitious.

  On 17/09/2020 at 14:27, dee-tox said:

Terrific player but I reckon the target should be those between 18 and 25.

In theory this is the when players have their most upside and perhaps not cruelled by injuries.

We have plenty of guys already in that 28 plus age group. Hibberd, Melksham, Vanders, May, Max, Brown, TMac, Nev, etc. They rarely get better.

Go the Ajax model and have four or five classy, experienced guys. The rest young and ambitious.

Except we don’t have the 4-5 classy experienced guys, which is what Gunston would be.

He’s a serious upgrade on all those older blokes and keeps one of those listed above (Melksham) out of the side, so it’s win-win

  On 10/09/2020 at 09:00, BW511 said:

Think he’s exactly what we could use, smart operator and another matchup for sides to actually think about.

Melksham Or Fritsch out and Gunston in

Not Fritsch we need to work him harder to another level Melky one to move on perhaps.

Gunston needs good ball delivery to be effective.

How do re reckon he'd go with our midfield kicking/bombing/shanking it to him?

Edited September 18, 20204 yr by JTR

  On 18/09/2020 at 13:05, JTR said:

Gunston needs good ball delivery to be effective.

How do re reckon he'd go with our midfield kicking/bombing/shanking it to him?

Well he showed this year he doesn't playing in a side that finished bottom 4....

If we are able to bring in Assad and Gunston over the pre season, we already have a much better and balanced team (on paper at least)

Anyone watch the Hawks today. Gunston 4.2 goals. 18 disposals.  11 marks. Hawks best imo.  His ability to create an option and mark cleanly is much better than any Dees forward  right now. By a mile.   He would make us a much much more dangerous team. 

  On 20/09/2020 at 05:46, spirit of norm smith said:

Anyone watch the Hawks today. Gunston 4.2 goals. 18 disposals.  11 marks. Hawks best imo.  His ability to create an option and mark cleanly is much better than any Dees forward  right now. By a mile.   He would make us a much much more dangerous team. 

Yes kicks Goals more so than a few of ours who miss consistently. Would take him easily!

He's a better version of Fritsch. He's not our biggest need.

  On 20/09/2020 at 08:36, Pollyanna said:

He's a better version of Fritsch. He's not our biggest need.

A significantly better version of Fritsch, who is better than Melksham. So we are upgrading Fritsch and Melksham by bringing him in, seems a no brainer

  On 19/09/2020 at 02:01, Demon Disciple said:

If we are able to bring in Assad and Gunston over the pre season, we already have a much better and balanced team (on paper at least)

Not sure what we're going to go with next year. Are we going to focus on winning the contest and moving the ball quickly, or are we going to continue with the slower chipping game? The more outside pace we add, the more our game style changes. Not necessarily for the worse, adding that to our inside grunt is a good thing, but I'm not convinced we know how to harness that game style.

There's still far too much learning on the job for my liking. We never settled on our team and we appeared to make constant tweaks throughout the year.

Will be fascinating to see which element we favour (inside or outside) and whether we go more attacking or more defensive.

  On 20/09/2020 at 08:36, Pollyanna said:

He's a better version of Fritsch. He's not our biggest need.

Then take and dont hesitate!!

  On 19/09/2020 at 02:01, Demon Disciple said:

If we are able to bring in Assad and Gunston over the pre season, we already have a much better and balanced team (on paper at least)

You'd have to run that by the Russians first

All for bringing in Gunston but not at the expense of Fritz. We’re talking about a developing 60 gamer over an ageing 200+ gamer who have just had similar, statistical wise, seasons. 

  On 20/09/2020 at 12:14, Moonshadow said:

You'd have to run that by the Russians first

Damn auto correct

  On 20/09/2020 at 08:36, Pollyanna said:

He's a better version of Fritsch. He's not our biggest need.

So trade out Fritsch for a 2nd rounder and give Hawks their 2nd rounder back for Gunston?

  On 20/09/2020 at 12:25, Demon Disciple said:

Damn auto correct

tell the auto correct to go to hello.

 If autocorrect causes so many problems, why don't people just turn it off/disable it on their phone?

Edited September 21, 20204 yr by Wobbly Bob

  On 20/09/2020 at 13:40, Dr. Gonzo said:

So trade out Fritsch for a 2nd rounder and give Hawks their 2nd rounder back for Gunston?

I'd prefer to keep Fritsch - 24yo next year and still with scope to improve vs Gunston at 29yo who will cost a lot more.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&playerStatus2=A&tid2=11&type=A&pid1=6505&pid2=3342&fid1=S&fid2=S

Gunston is not going to solve our forward line issues, we need a strong marking target (supposed to have been TMac) and more dangerous tackling crumbers.

Edited September 21, 20204 yr by Pollyanna

  On 21/09/2020 at 00:57, Pollyanna said:

I'd prefer to keep Fritsch - 24yo next year and still with scope to improve vs Gunston at 29yo who will cost a lot more.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&playerStatus2=A&tid2=11&type=A&pid1=6505&pid2=3342&fid1=S&fid2=S

Gunston is not going to solve our forward line issues, we need a strong marking target (supposed to have been TMac) and more dangerous tackling crumbers.

I think Gunston would add a lot to our side 55. Not only is he a good mark and great finisher, but he also good on the ground.

We have invested too much in Weideman and Jackson, for us to not build around them as talls. We need a mobile third option that can compete on the deck. 

Fristch is the most frustrating player on the list IMO. Misses far too many set shots for a "dead eye".