I thought Clarko’s shot at Papley was weak and disappointing 

He would be better served having a crack at knucklehead Frawley 

Horse Longmire’s reaction was telling. He was genuinely shocked at Clarkson’s comments 

Edited July 25, 20205 yr by Bitter but optimistic

Clarko knows it will be at least ten years before the Hawks can rebuild and get back into some kind of contention, and has some hard decisions to make. 
Loyalty can be a double edged sword.
GWS would be insane not to be offering him big $$$ to come and work his magic with their talent... esp as 2020 starts to slip away.

Edited July 25, 20205 yr by PaulRB

When Fagan left, many thought that the moderating influence on Clarko was also walking out the door. Easy to be calm cool and collected when things are going your way. Let's see how solo Clarko responds to the ultimate failure in football = LOSING

Clarko is up there with Serena, Djokovitch and The Australian Cricket team of the early 2000's as terrible losers.  Absolutely no statesmanship at all

23 minutes ago, Salems Lot said:

Clarko is up there with Serena, Djokovitch and The Australian Cricket team of the early 2000's as terrible losers.  Absolutely no statesmanship at all

He was magnanimous to Melbourne last weekend

Clarkson . . . ironic isn't it? A cheat naming and shaming a fellow cheat. 

Edited July 26, 20205 yr by Queanbeyan Demon

What the world needs right now is a compilation clip of Hawthorn players under Clarkson diving, ducking, pulling and waving their arms around for free kicks, set to the sounds of Clarkson sooking about Papley.

Of course, Hawks have form on the 'complaining about Sydney players milking free kicks', because it is well known they were right at the forefront of 'holding Adam Goodes accountable'.

Junk club.  Rot in a ditch.

 

He's a great coach - a future hall of famer and three weeks ago just about everyone on this forum would have signed him in a heart beat had he been available. People can say what they like about him, he just needs to point to the trophy cabinet.  Whilst Carlton and Melbourne were "investing" in the draft, he was busy accumulating silverware. His personality is part of what makes him great.  I loved him as a player.  In his two years as a Demon he never gave less than his absolute best.  Was runner up in the Bluey in his first year. He's one of the all time greats and like all of them, his team is going through a trough.  I'll back him to turn it around.

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

Yes but Dusty was never “the Melbourne look” at the time with our blue blood MFC Board. Maybe that had some bearing on the selectors?

yes we never looked at dusty , but everyone had Scully and Trengrove as 1 and 2 . even port offered us pick 6 and 8 for pick 2 

all very good in hinsight

5 hours ago, CBDees said:

Jack gave his heart and soul for the Club even whilst recovering from his leg injury he was doing community work with the Club’s programs. Although he was never going to regain the body to stand AFL speed, he did manage to get B&F for Casey Demons the year before we jettisoned him.  IMHO delist him (& from our salary cap) but retain him as a Casey player (on fair renumeration)and he may have led Casey to a Demons Premiership. That in itself would have warranted retention of him and rewarded the players on the AFL list who spent much of their time playing for Casey for various reasons. A bit like our treatment of James Macdonald really > shortsighted and ignoring aspects like Club culture.

Reading back it looks like I am having a go at Trenners. I am more disappointed at how out picks have turned out, this is more to player management. Our crystal ball wasn't just broken but lying to us. Too many times the football department put these kids on a pedestal as 'they will be our saviour'. In this the MFC put so much pressure on them when they don't become what the club projected them to become, it's all their fault? 

Scully was a bad selection and should have picked Olly Wines over Toumpass.

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yep, this is in tune with what Gawn was talking when he was first walked in and our club was made of precious private school boys..

This had Cameron Schwab hands written all over it.

What a shambles the club was back then.

Remember the school blazers? Whenever I see that dreadful Coat of Arms that Schwab cooked up, I feel ill. And the trumpeter before the games?! The club turned into a parody of itself, coinciding with one of the worst lists in history. *Shudders* 

That ridiculous episode, combined with the emergence of the two franchise clubs set us back about 10 years!

1 minute ago, 3183 Dee said:

Remember the school blazers? Whenever I see that dreadful Coat of Arms that Schwab cooked up, I feel ill. And the trumpeter before the games?! The club turned into a parody of itself, coinciding with one of the worst lists in history. *Shudders* 

That ridiculous episode, combined with the emergence of the two franchise clubs set us back about 10 years!

Don't even mention it.

You're ruining my delightful cheese platter.

The hawks midfield has serious 2010 Dees vibes, back when we had McDonald, Mclean, Moloney and Jones running around. Not absolutely terrible on paper, but it's incredibly one-dimensional and there's not much evidence of young talent coming through to solve their problems. Their under 23 talent is probably the worst in the league. The next few years are going to be beautiful.

5 minutes ago, Youngwilliam said:

Scully was a bad selection

We made a lot of bad recruiting decisions, but I don't think this was one of them. Scully was the clear #1 for about 2 years leading up to the 09 draft (until Trengove entered the conversation at the last minute). According to every recruiting guru at the time, he was Chris Judd mk 2 and about the safest bet you could wish for with a number 1 pick. Even if we passed on Scully, we would have been just as much chance to pick Morabito (remember him?) as Dusty. What a draft that would have been.

1 hour ago, Swooper1987 said:

He's a great coach - a future hall of famer and three weeks ago just about everyone on this forum would have signed him in a heart beat had he been available. People can say what they like about him, he just needs to point to the trophy cabinet.  Whilst Carlton and Melbourne were "investing" in the draft, he was busy accumulating silverware. His personality is part of what makes him great.  I loved him as a player.  In his two years as a Demon he never gave less than his absolute best.  Was runner up in the Bluey in his first year. He's one of the all time greats and like all of them, his team is going through a trough.  I'll back him to turn it around.

How much you wanna bet? He'll be out of Hawthorn at the end of the year. His brand is expired, it is obsolete, it is Pre Corona....

34 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Remember the school blazers? Whenever I see that dreadful Coat of Arms that Schwab cooked up, I feel ill. And the trumpeter before the games?! The club turned into a parody of itself, coinciding with one of the worst lists in history. *Shudders* 

That ridiculous episode, combined with the emergence of the two franchise clubs set us back about 10 years!

Yep, 

Don't forget whiteboard Wednesdays. Schwab was a fraud. Hope he's never welcomed back to this club again.

Did he ask the football club to fund his trip to the US so he can partake in some study at Harvard?

51 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Don't even mention it.

You're ruining my delightful cheese platter.

Biff I spat my duck rillette all over my champagne guffawing at that.

22 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yep, 

Don't forget whiteboard Wednesdays. Schwab was a fraud. Hope he's never welcomed back to this club again.

Did he ask the football club to fund his trip to the US so he can partake in some study at Harvard?

I remember the day “Whiteboard Wednesday” abruptly stopped, i knew big trouble was brewing 

11 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Biff I spat my duck rillette all over my champagne guffawing at that.

It's no wonder Cards ol' boy.

Champagne is far too acidic with a foie gras.

A dry sherry or perhaps a young burgundy next time is my sincere advice.

 

2 hours ago, markc said:

yes we never looked at dusty , but everyone had Scully and Trengrove as 1 and 2 . even port offered us pick 6 and 8 for pick 2 

all very good in hinsight

To think, we could have had John Butcher!

Water (heavy metal polluted water, but water) under the bridge, but hey, in the end we still got a future captain, champion, and possibly the best player in the competition at present, so it wasn't a total bust of a draft.

37 minutes ago, Biffen said:

It's no wonder Cards ol' boy.

Champagne is far too acidic with a foie gras.

A dry sherry or perhaps a young burgundy next time is my sincere advice.

 

Unfortunately the goodly wife has been poorly all week but decided to pop a champers last night. She had half a charge and that was it so I am forced to imbibe it or it shall go to waste. Husband of the year honours over here.

3 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Unfortunately the goodly wife has been poorly all week but decided to pop a champers last night. She had half a charge and that was it so I am forced to imbibe it or it shall go to waste. Husband of the year honours over here.

Flat champagne is perfectly acceptable with foie gras. Incidentally, a glass of flat champagne before bed is also good as hangover precaution, when you’ve imbibed too much of an evening.

Just now, 3183 Dee said:

Flat champagne is perfectly acceptable with foie gras. Incidentally, a glass of flat champagne before bed is also good as hangover precaution, when you’ve imbibed too much of an evening.

Oh perfect I’ll open a fresh bottle to have now and leave the open bottle for just before bed? Go Ddeeeesssss

Perfect - I should have added that a croque monsieur to accompany the flat Champagne is also advisable.

2 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

Perfect - I should have added that a croque monsieur to accompany the flat Champagne is also advisable.

Ooohhh I was offered one this morning for breakfast but went with the ham and cheese croissant instead. 

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Edited July 26, 20205 yr by —coach—