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Hawks getting smashed in the media & by Lewis questioning If Clarko can rebuild & of course they are playing us. they will be pumped, playing out of their skins & smash us! 

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    7 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

    Hawks getting smashed in the media & by Lewis questioning If Clarko can rebuild & of course they are playing us. they will be pumped, playing out of their skins & smash us! 

    Are you a life coach by profession?

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    Looking for to the new combo of Jackson and Weid. A partnership for a deade.

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    Gawn might play more forward whilst Jackson does some rucking.  What the split is in percentage terms remains to be seen.  The MC might not know exactly either. 

    However,  it could be assumed that Weideman will be a stay-at-home forward so there's that.

    Double-teaming a player like Gawn up forward is easier said than done esp if they need to keep an eye on Weideman as well.

    So a lot may depend on how LJ goes in the ruck and on the ball. 

    And Jackson is a very different type of draftee.  He will have rucked and played as a very tall midfielder for a lot of his junior footy.  His ability as a forward is the question.

    But Luke may not have been picked primarily to replace T-Mac's position.  Could be a bit of all sorts.  He is the very definition of a project player. 

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    22 minutes ago, Macca said:

    Gawn might play more forward whilst Jackson does some rucking.  What the split is in percentage terms remains to be seen.  The MC might not know exactly either. 

    However,  it could be assumed that Weideman will be a stay-at-home forward so there's that.

    Double-teaming a player like Gawn up forward is easier said than done esp if they need to keep an eye on Weideman as well.

    So a lot may depend on how LJ goes in the ruck and on the ball. 

    And Jackson is a very different type of draftee.  He will have rucked and played as a very tall midfielder for a lot of his junior footy.  His ability as a forward is the question.

    But Luke may not have been picked primarily to replace T-Mac's position.  Could be a bit of all sorts.  He is the very definition of a project player. 

    Gawn is also a horrible field kick and kick for goal. I'd rather they played him in the ruck and then rest him on the bench or across half back.

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    9 hours ago, loges said:

    Let's see how the forward line functions tomorrow without him.

    Yep.  My only worry is i don't think Jackson is ready to hold down a CHF role this early.  At some point hopefully yes.

    So that leaves him playing a FF type role.  Probably better at this point.  But then i don't see Weid as suited to playing CHF either due to his lack of ability on the ground and in transition.

    Does Jackson at CHF and Weid at FF look a whole lot more scrumptious a year or two down the track?  I personally think so and as Bruce is known to say on occasions....we might just see something pretty "Special!".

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    I don’t think Jackson did much ruck work if at all in his only game so far this year v Carlton. He will probably be the back up when Gawn rests.

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    7 minutes ago, A F said:

    Gawn is also a horrible field kick and kick for goal. I'd rather they played him in the ruck and then rest him on the bench or across half back.

    He's not that bad and lets face it,  most of our forwards aren't all that flash in front of goal.

    We need marking strength and a tall presence up forward.  Gawn fits the bill but I'm advocating maybe only 20% - 30% forward.  Gawn can occupy the hotspot whenever possible,  which can bring our small forwards and other forwards into play.

    Did you read my post as having Gawn up forward permanently or as a mainstay AF?  Because I certainly didn't mean it that way.

    Jackson will almost certainly spend a bit of time on the ball (IMO) ... how much time,  who knows?

    Key forwards these days are often there to provide structure.  So much so that Sydney were so worried about Reiwoldt & Lynch that they overdid the flood. 

    A mix of Weideman,  Gawn & Jackson can provide that structure.  And with a large bank of games to come in the next 6 weeks,  Max will need to be managed properly.

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    I agree with those who suggest Jackson will take a bit of the ruck load from Gawny. We are heading towards that period where we have plenty of games in a short period plus the Dons catch up game.

    Managing Gawn would be a big factor with the advantage of getting games under Jackson's belt. 

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    3 hours ago, Hogan2014 said:

    Hawks getting smashed in the media & by Lewis questioning If Clarko can rebuild & of course they are playing us. they will be pumped, playing out of their skins & smash us! 

    Of course,, it aint Rocket Science!!

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    31 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Yep.  My only worry is i don't think Jackson is ready to hold down a CHF role this early.  At some point hopefully yes.

    So that leaves him playing a FF type role.  Probably better at this point.  But then i don't see Weid as suited to playing CHF either due to his lack of ability on the ground and in transition.

    Does Jackson at CHF and Weid at FF look a whole lot more scrumptious a year or two down the track?  I personally think so and as Bruce is known to say on occasions....we might just see something pretty "Special!".

    The  WTF did we pick him?? Brown or Smith much better options!

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    40 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Yep.  My only worry is i don't think Jackson is ready to hold down a CHF role this early.  At some point hopefully yes.

    So that leaves him playing a FF type role.  Probably better at this point.  But then i don't see Weid as suited to playing CHF either due to his lack of ability on the ground and in transition.

    Does Jackson at CHF and Weid at FF look a whole lot more scrumptious a year or two down the track?  I personally think so and as Bruce is known to say on occasions....we might just see something pretty "Special!".

    I hope they both have good games but my worry is we'll get plenty of inside 50's but not kick a winning score.

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    4 hours ago, Hogan2014 said:

    Hawks getting smashed in the media & by Lewis questioning If Clarko can rebuild & of course they are playing us. they will be pumped, playing out of their skins & smash us! 

      I just heard Chris Dawes say the Hawks are 'gettable' , so we should get the win.

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    9 hours ago, DeePressed said:

    They have been stubborn so far this year.

    An assertion based on a supposition. Or any number of.

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    33 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    The  WTF did we pick him?? Brown or Smith much better options!

    He's a WIP PF.  Much patience needed me thinks.  I have no issues with talent i just think he's a few pre-seasons of fitness and putting some meat on the bone away from holding down a KP.

    Would have played Brown for next two to three weeks ahead of LJ.  Anyways good luck to him and hope he surprises with a vn game

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    Happy to go with Jackson ...whoever we would have picked won’t be the difference between winning & losing this game. We totally have the team to beat Hawks & I’d be hard pressed to find a reason for us to lose this. This game is on the players ...definitely not the coach & coaching panel!! 

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    1 hour ago, A F said:

    Gawn is also a horrible field kick and kick for goal. I'd rather they played him in the ruck and then rest him on the bench or across half back.

    Gawn is a very good field kick, he hits his target more often than not in general play.  I agree he is a little dicey in front of the big sticks 

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    Y'know, it just occurred to me that Luke Jackson might be the player to finally complete the magic puzzle that I've always wanted to see - a player who gets at least one of every single stat in a single game.

    I've kept an eye on the likes of Franklin and Naitanui over the years but I don't think either ever did it all in one game.

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    3 hours ago, A F said:

    Gawn is also a horrible field kick and kick for goal. I'd rather they played him in the ruck and then rest him on the bench or across half back.

    That is absolutely not the case, he's been brilliant this year. Clearly been working on this part of his game and is best ruckman in the comp hands down this season 

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    Am lukewarm on the selection Jackson at this stage. I agree that he has a lot of promise and will be a part of our long term future. But this is a must win game  for us and an experienced forward in Brown seems to be the smart choice up forward in my humble option. I would have thought that this was the ideal time to pick him when we are lacking in tall forwards and the basis of the reason to recruit him and if he is continually overlooked - then why did we recruit him?  Gee I hate the Hawks and hope that Jackson has an impact.

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    The circumstances are obviously different but selection has taken a bit of a different course this season,  all the same

    Jones out and can't get back in.  Tomlinson out where previously that may not have happened.  Jetta dropped but returns soon after.  Rivers & Jackson given a taste and now Jackson gets another chance. 

    And Brown is pure back-up.  Which is not a bad recruiting move.  Same deal with Preuss. 

    And it now looks like the coaching panel recognises that we need structure up forward after trying out a medium sized forward line that didn't work.  Same deal down back where Oscar is now preferred over others.

    Jackson plays because of the eye injury to T-Mac but the MC now gets another chance to see what Luke offers (albeit a very raw recruit)

    But he can ruck alright and has a huge leap so he may surprise. 

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    3 hours ago, picket fence said:

    The  WTF did we pick him?? Brown or Smith much better options!

    C'mon Picket get serious? Smith is rawer than Jackson and Brown is not a pack crunching forward like they hope Jackson to be. Jackson is clearly the best option.

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    3 hours ago, GoGetRossLyon said:

      I just heard Chris Dawes say the Hawks are 'gettable' , so we should get the win.

    Well sheesh if Chris Dawes has said that, then no wonder you are so confident!

    I was indecisive until reading this.

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