Brad Miller - GWS Forward line & Assistant Coach. Get him to Melbourne?

[John Demonic 5,795]

Impressed with what I heard on fox footy tonight as he answered questions on the upcoming game. I see in his resume he was at the Kangaroos during their prelim stints in 2013, 14. GWS NEAFL head coach, forward line and now assistant at GWS. That's some pretty elite experience.

Surely you'd look at getting him in to replace Chaplain end of year to work with the forward line. If he can help us improve, see some success, then he'll add more strings to his bow and will move on to a head coach role somewhere else. Big win.

He'd also be a potential caretaker in waiting in late-2021 (worst case scenario) with a chance to make a mark as a head coach, given he might not have the actual forward line pieces to make a radical difference next year, seeing that we've not yet replaced Hogan. 

Thoughts?

Edited June 26, 2020 by John Demonic
Added some clarification.

[whatwhat say what 22,747]

moved up to sydney to be closer to his kids

can't see it happening

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,243]

I met him while he was playing with MFC. Such a nice guy. Sorry to hear that Pia dumped him.

[dazzledavey36 54,890]

7 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Impressed with what I heard on fox footy tonight as he answered questions on the upcoming game. I see in his resume he was at the Kangaroos during their prelim stints in 2013, 14. GWS NEAFL head coach, forward line and now assistant at GWS. That's some pretty elite experience.

Surely you'd look at getting him in to replace Chaplain end of year to work with the forward line. If he can help us improve, see some success, then he'll add more strings to his bow and will move on to a head coach role somewhere else. Big win.

He'd also be a potential caretaker in waiting in late-2021 (worst case scenario) with a chance to make a mark as a head coach, given he might not have the actual forward line pieces to make a radical difference next year, seeing that we've not yet replaced Hogan. 

Thoughts?

He was never at the kangaroo's? Pretty sure he went from playing at Richmond straight to our coaching team back in 2014.

[Roger Mellie 4,021]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He was never at the kangaroo's? Pretty sure he went from playing at Richmond straight to our coaching team back in 2014.

Yeah, pretty sure he was a development coach here for a year or two.

[drysdale demon 4,832]

7 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

moved up to sydney to be closer to his kids

can't see it happening

You are correct there, was in MFC footy dept. and went to Sydney after his marriage went bust so he could be close to his kids, he won't come back anytime soon.

[CBDees 3,167]

8 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Impressed with what I heard on fox footy tonight as he answered questions on the upcoming game. I see in his resume he was at the Kangaroos during their prelim stints in 2013, 14. GWS NEAFL head coach, forward line and now assistant at GWS. That's some pretty elite experience.

Surely you'd look at getting him in to replace Chaplain end of year to work with the forward line. If he can help us improve, see some success, then he'll add more strings to his bow and will move on to a head coach role somewhere else. Big win.

He'd also be a potential caretaker in waiting in late-2021 (worst case scenario) with a chance to make a mark as a head coach, given he might not have the actual forward line pieces to make a radical difference next year, seeing that we've not yet replaced Hogan. 

Thoughts?

Hate to see him as a forward coach (even if he is a nice bloke). During his time with Melbourne as a KPF he was great at leading and taking marks but never seemed to have the confidence to take his shot at goals, preferring to pass off to somebody else and, more often than not, turning it over.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

26 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Hate to see him as a forward coach (even if he is a nice bloke). During his time with Melbourne as a KPF he was great at leading and taking marks but never seemed to have the confidence to take his shot at goals, preferring to pass off to somebody else and, more often than not, turning it over.

Sounds perfect actually.

[dazzledavey36 54,890]

37 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Hate to see him as a forward coach (even if he is a nice bloke). During his time with Melbourne as a KPF he was great at leading and taking marks but never seemed to have the confidence to take his shot at goals, preferring to pass off to somebody else and, more often than not, turning it over.

If we go by that theory then explain Alistair Clarkson?

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,503]

33 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If we go by that theory then explain Alistair Clarkson?

Agree.

Plenty of evidence to suggest that the more limited the player, the better the coach.

 

 

[whatwhat say what 22,747]

41 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If we go by that theory then explain Alistair Clarkson?

everyone knows that those with napoleon complexes make the best coaches!

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

1 hour ago, CBDees said:

Hate to see him as a forward coach (even if he is a nice bloke). During his time with Melbourne as a KPF he was great at leading and taking marks but never seemed to have the confidence to take his shot at goals, preferring to pass off to somebody else and, more often than not, turning it over.

When the situation called for a kick, he would handpass. When a handpass was in order, he would kick. He didn't seem to have a good football brain. Not a good starting point fora coach.

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

Need to bring his own revolving door.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

3 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

everyone knows that those with napoleon complexes make the best coaches!

By that logic...

who has played for the dee's under 5ft 5 - (170cm)?

Ricky Jackson! Get him in!

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

Hate to see him as a forward coach (even if he is a nice bloke). During his time with Melbourne as a KPF he was great at leading and taking marks but never seemed to have the confidence to take his shot at goals, preferring to pass off to somebody else and, more often than not, turning it over.

How would he have gone at CHB.?

How would his style shape go today as a CHB. 

 

It's almost exactly what I envisage the new tall defender draftee,  that I want our club to recruit.

 

Thanks for mentioning him,  as I just realised he is what I'm after,  for our Key defence Qtr back.

Edited June 27, 2020 by MyFavouriteMartian

[Damo 3,356]

Sorry to divert slightly but it may be that Dean Cox has not got a long time left working with John Longmire. That was the impression I had last night. I have always been impressed with Cox who was above the drug controversies at West Coast. A very good and smart footballer. Extremely focused and hard. What a coup it would be to have him as ruck/stoppage coach next year. I believe he will be a senior AFL coach.

Edited June 27, 2020 by Damo

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

When the situation called for a kick, he would handpass. When a handpass was in order, he would kick. He didn't seem to have a good football brain. Not a good starting point fora coach.

'timidity', as a forward.

He was a natural defender in mindset.

[Little Goffy 14,530]

Ironically, he would probably be much more valuable on-field now than he was back in his playing time.  He was never a true 'target' forward close to goals and whenever he found his best form it was as a long-leading link player, going into the wider spaces out from half-forward.

With the increased 'tightness' of defense due to shorter quarters and fresher legs, the key forward targets are getting fewer opportunities to be one-on-one or find a space to lead into anywhere within 50m of goal, so a lot of the tall forwards this season are doing their best work by providing a steady point across half-forward or even further away, allowing the attack to calm itself and lower its eyes (in a double-sense) to pick out the shorter forwards who just keep running around until the defense gets dizzy.

But, as noted, Miller has hid head screwed on in that astonishing way where being close to your kids is a top priority in life.  Damn these new-age rubbish attitudes, eh?

[whatwhat say what 22,747]

i can't imagine being any less frustrated with miller's appalling disposal now as i was then 

[MyFavouriteMartian 572]

3 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

whenever he found his best form it was as a long-leading link player, going into the wider spaces out from half-forward.

Much like TMc, and I think Brown.

 

Brad is the type/size of player I'd like us to recruit for CHB... in that,  his balance and athleticism and attack at the ball.   To me,  his is the right size height  X  strong build,  that gives him stability on his feet  and in the air.   Someone like him with nice disposal would be fantstic.

 

[Dee Dee 1,108]

Miller could be a very intimidating player who I think was suspended for rough play on a couple of occasions! His crash and bash approach caused injury to more than one opponent!

Would he be a good fit to the Dee’s coaching panel, I don’t know, but I used to enjoy watching him as a development coach when he was with us ( and I enjoyed seeing his former wife as well)!

Edited June 27, 2020 by Dee Dee

[TheKozzieExperience 258]

14 hours ago, bingers said:

Sorry to hear that Pia dumped him.

Gold digger.  Hes better off without her.

[dee-eee 231]

A future Garry Lyon chaired panel would get the appointment spot-on................i think .

[dpositive 1,665]

I seem to recall Miller as a player with limited skills.BUT I did enjoy his attack on the ball. He went to the right places and created a contest. It may have been that teamates just bombed it forward where he made a contest but at least he provided a target. He was often caught in that no mans zone, too far out to kick a score but too close to congestion as defenders flooded back.

i always felt we did not use his contesting style well, players didn't use the space he provded nor did they use the spillage that he created. Not enough run past and not enough protection. 

His endeavour and workrate were aspects that are required in even greater measure now and if he could instil that in some of our players we might benefit.