Melbourne vs Essendon Postponed

[GCDee]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

 

So Carlton will get the play the bombers will their makeshift backline.... But we will get to wait until later in the year once everyone is back and add in Heppell and fantasia 

[McQueen]

Wouldn’t the logical solution be that every team has a bye round between now and the end of H&A games?

[Demon3]

All i keep hearing is about how bad trhis is fr Essendon.. this is shockingly unfair on our season. First they cancelled teh season before our first game.. had to have an impact, now this. We are the ones going to have a heavily compromised season.

[Demonland]

 

[Demonland]

2 minutes ago, GCDee said:

So Carlton will get the play the bombers will their makeshift backline.... But we will get to wait until later in the year once everyone is back and add in Heppell and fantasia 

This for days. 

[Bombay Airconditioning]

1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

Given the amount of confusing information surrounding COVID 19, does anyone know if the tests accurate enough within a 3-4 day time frame?

Not sure, I would say no. I thought I read somewhere on here last night but I couldn’t find it this morning, where someone said something along the lines of “being viral it can take days to fully infect your body, so a series of your tests could come back as negative, negative, low range, positive, even though you’ve had the disease for a couple of days”.

Edited June 21, 2020 by Bombay Airconditioning

[binman]

4 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Wouldn’t the logical solution be that every team has a bye round between now and the end of H&A games?

Yep. And I expect that is exactly what will happen.

It will also mean they can better work out tbe west Australian teams retiring to WA and the whole WA hub set up.

[binman]

38 minutes ago, Skuit said:

The health authorities have put in place a two-week quarantine period for a reason. There is an incubation period where there might not yet be evidence of the virus in the system. The protocol now for returning travelers seems to be to test on day two and day nine. They don't just let people loose if they test negative on day two. See what happened in NZ. I can't quite understand why they've come to the conclusion that McKenna tested negative on Wednesday so let's assume he picked it up in the past couple days and work from there. It completely conflicts with the notion of a two-week quarantine period. 

Again the critical issue (Or one of them) is who he got it from, which they almost certainly will.  

The most likely scenario (but not the only one of course) is he got on Thursday at the house inspection or when he visited his hodt family (Which by the by is the case it means all of this drama, and the big hole in my afternoon, is caused by that moronic decision).

[manny100]

Its a bit dodgy to ask teams to play 2 games in say 6 days especially if you are a finals chance and its getting close to seasons end. So AFL will likely try to avoid late season games. The virus gets  a little worse AFL may end up reducing the season somehow to 15 or 16 rounds over the course of the season. Its everyone play each other once now so all fair now but the AFL 22 or 23 rounds was not done that way in the past.  So a reduced 15 or 16 round season would be a break glass in case of emergency but not out of the question. 

The AFL is determined to award a Premiership cup no matter what.

[Bombay Airconditioning]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If the Essendon players are tested on Tuesday and cleared, then why can’t we play them on Tuesday night rather than having to worry about a make-up game later in the season?

Because four days isn’t long enough for an accurate reading, that’s my understanding anyway.

[sue]

9 minutes ago, manny100 said:

....

The AFL is determined to award a Premiership cup no matter what.

It better be a big cup to fit all the asterisks on it.

[Skuit]

16 minutes ago, binman said:

Again the critical issue (Or one of them) is who he got it from, which they almost certainly will.  

The most likely scenario (but not the only one of course) is he got on Thursday at the house inspection or when he visited his hodt family (Which by the by is the case it means all of this drama, and the big hole in my afternoon, is caused by that moronic decision).

binman. Why do we have a two-week quarantine period instituted almost all across the world if we assume anyone who tests negative is virus-free? I don't get it. Otherwise, we could just test people and let them go on with their lives. 

[MyFavouriteMartian]

13 hours ago, Giles said:

Is this the same guy who got rubbed out for biting?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-10/essendon-conor-mckenna-suspended-for-biting-tory-dickson/9638358

No wonder he's carrying Corona,  he's a Fly by Night Vampire.

[Macca]

It stands to reason that a player or 2 was going to test positive to the virus so another plan surrounding that inevitabily could have been enacted.

There was talk previously of playing games every day with an even bigger reduction in game time (but with more games)  Any game called off could simply be called a draw in that scenario. 

Yes, that opens up the possibility that games could be deliberately compromised but again,  that possibility is always there anyway (PED use etc)

Let's face it,  the draw/fixture is compromised anyway so we never get parity.

So,  in theory,  today's game gets called off with the points shared but we might have been playing another game on Wednesday. 

The best teams end up at the pointy end of the ladder and any premiership is never won with luck being a big factor. 

Players going home to their wives & children greatly increases the chances of the virus appearing in the hubs too.  So,  you live with the risk and plan accordingly.

What we've got now is confusion and no clear path.  You can't have forfeit's as we're all in the same boat.

[bobby1554]

2 hours ago, TRIGON said:

Given the amount of confusing information surrounding COVID 19, does anyone know if the tests accurate enough within a 3-4 day time frame?

Wasn’t McKenna tested earlier last week and it came up negative, then retested Friday and positive Saturday? If that’s the case and Essendon players are being tested Tuesday how can they possibly play on the weekend??

[binman]

22 minutes ago, Skuit said:

binman. Why do we have a two-week quarantine period instituted almost all across the world if we assume anyone who tests negative is virus-free? I don't get it. Otherwise, we could just test people and let them go on with their lives. 

We quarantine travellers here because they apply the harm minimization principle of assuming anyone returning has it.

However, in Victoria, only people who have been in close contact (not any contact) with someone who has covid have to isolate/quarantine. 

If someone only had contact with say conner then the principle is that it is very unlikely they will have contracted it. So a test on Tuesday will confirm they are covid free.

But any close contact with conner  will be isolated EVEN IF the test comes back negative

[daisycutter]

13 hours ago, Skuit said:

I'm still googling Daisy. 

try googling kirner joan

[dl4e]

37 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Wasn’t McKenna tested earlier last week and it came up negative, then retested Friday and positive Saturday? If that’s the case and Essendon players are being tested Tuesday how can they possibly play on the weekend??

Correct. In fact it could take up to 2 weeks or longer to show positive.

[Demonland]

 

[Diamond_Jim]

Looks bad for Essendon from a playing perspective in the next two weeks... from the channel 7 report above... quoting the Chief Health Officer

"If that individual (McKenna) has trained with such a number that they won’t be able to play, then that’s how they will have to proceed,” Sutton said.

“But if they can manage with the existing player list, minus those close contacts, then they will proceed.

“I think they are still working up the close contact list.”

Edited June 21, 2020 by Diamond_Jim

[Satan]

I fear will be underdone for Geelong.

[Ethan Tremblay]

In the last 15 years, more Essendon players have tested positive to Coronavirus than have won a final. 

Edited June 21, 2020 by Ethan Tremblay

[Lucifer's Hero]

11 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Looks bad for Essendon from a playing perspective in the next two weeks... from the channel 7 report above... quoting the Chief Health Officer

"If that individual (McKenna) has trained with such a number that they won’t be able to play, then that’s how they will have to proceed,” Sutton said.

“But if they can manage with the existing player list, minus those close contacts, then they will proceed.

“I think they are still working up the close contact list.”

That means rnd 4 Ess v Carlton and then rnd 5 Ess v Coll would go ahead.  Whereas our game has been postponed to later in the season.

This seems grossly unfair to us as 1) Carl and Coll would play a depleted Ess team whereas we play them when back to full strength.  2) the postponement means playing Geelong next week when they will be more match fit having played to consecutive games after the long break to our one.

These 2 things will make it harder for us to finish above Carlton, Coll and Geel.

I don't know what the answer is but I feel we get a double penalty.  That implicitly annoys me. 

But also I was looking forward to a season where we had 'no excuses' if we perform poorly.  It is no longer a level playing field and we can't afford the appearance of a poor season (memberships, sponsors etc) even if circumstances and lady luck is stacked against us.  No one wants excuses, again.

 

[TheKozzieExperience]

8 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

In the last 15 years, more Essendon players have tested positive to Coronavirus than have won a final. 

Yeah theyre a rabble.

At what point does the AFL say enough is enough and remove them from the competition?  Every 5 years they bring the game into disrepute with their arrogance, corruption  and / or incompetence.

Bring in a  Tasmanian team and [censored] Essendon off.

[Diamond_Jim]

5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

No one wants excuses, again.

Now now LH...MFC always has to find an excuse for its failures....it's the norm (not even the new normal) ?