Training Ground?

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

If this isn't announced tomorrow just be aware that my day will be ruined and I'll have to drink many a whisky to feel better about myself...

 

 

[Dr. Mubutu 850]

8 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

If this isn't announced tomorrow just be aware that my day will be ruined and I'll have to drink many a whisky to feel better about myself...

 

 

......and if it is, it will be a great day and you'll have many a whisky to celebrate?

[Demon Disciple 12,119]

46 minutes ago, Dr. Mubutu said:

......and if it is, it will be a great day and you'll have many a whisky to celebrate?

Champagne would be more appropriate.

[No. 31 1,235]

On 16/09/2024 at 16:26, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Sorry tagged wrong post.. but for those who say 'big deal, travel tie etc boo hoo - or No.31 "When looking for a new job (say it is an office job), do you look at the location, condition, style, facilities of the office, the building its located in and the area it is in?" -- You are missing the point, it is NOT an office-job, it is their life for a SHORT term and they want every advantage to make most of it while they can, so appropriate comparison would be 'do you take a job based on the amount of hours you work, the amount of advantages you get like better training, a laptop supplied, a phone, a gym, a daycare for kids etc..etc

its also largely about convenience! Modern footballers want not only to aforementioned point on facilities: top-grade nutrition and equipment, recovery technology, and most of all -- work/life balance, it is extremely important to them, so asking players to join US when they can join a club with better facilities AND get 6-8hrs a week back in their time-poor lives is just putting the blinkers on...

Leo, my point was that people in every day life do indeed factor in the location, the convenience of travel to, the standard of physical facilities etc when making choices about employment.

AFL footballers will do the same. To think you can have substandard facilities and attract top line trade talent is naive. Especially as in recent years some clubs have built new facilities and some clubs have revamped old facilities.

I recently moved to brand new, modern offices (never occupied previously), quality facilities in a great location and it played a factor in me staying in my current role rather than actively seeking a new position elsewhere.

[Dee Dee 1,108]

8 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

 

AFL footballers will do the same. To think you can have substandard facilities and attract top line trade talent is naive. 

Chris Judd’s tour of our training facilities at Junction Oval readily springs to mind!

[pitmaster 3,544]

4 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

I’d say it’s more because MCC members have reciprocal membership to the VRC and MRC 

Smart girl.

[Pink Freud 364]

2 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I, and others, have gone as far as to say previously that we had heard the key stakeholders in the negotiations had made it clear they did not want Roffey involved at all and would not deal with her. 

Not what I heard from people closely involved in negotiations. I’ve heard the contrary which I suppose just goes to show that people looking at things, sometimes see them from the perspective of their own agendas.

Edited September 17 by Pink Freud

[The Great Pretender 463]

8 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

That's fair, and I take you at your word there.

Just to clarify, I have nothing against Roffey at all. I'm happy to sit on the fence and recognize the good she did, the challenges she had, and the areas where it seemed she did not do well. Merely passing on things I've heard along the way - not personally involved at all and not one who is 'connected' as such. I certainly have no anti-Roffey agenda of any sort.

My post was to point out, it seems the same narrative and information has come from various posters here now, so it does seem to have some credibility, as far as that goes on the internet of course. These things can often be not as black and white as can be made to appear, and more complex that can be expanded upon in this form.

If there’s a positive announcement tomorrow then perhaps we might be better enlightened as to the roles of those involved. Let’s wait and see.

[DeeZone 9,821]

9 minutes ago, The Great Pretender said:

If there’s a positive announcement tomorrow then perhaps we might be better enlightened as to the roles of those involved. Let’s wait and see.

Agree TGP when the announcement is finally made I would expect the club to praise those that have lead these negotiations to a successful conclusion and we should be able to draw our own conclusions rather than be guided either way.

[KLV 1,765]

11 hours ago, Oxdee said:

What do you mean part of the mcc? Do we have an ownership stake in the mcc? How does this work?

The football club is a section of the MCC.

https://mcc.org.au/about-the-club/club-history/mcc-historical-timeline

[layzie 33,793]

I hope it's announced tomorrow because I've already planned to have a good day.

[No. 31 1,235]

Whilst waiting for page 184 and the news to drop tomorrow I just wanted to touch on some historical points about MFC, MCC & MCG (because I am a bit of a history nerd 🤓) raised in the last few pages in this thread.

Whilst the Dees are inextricably linked to the MCC and MCG there are some myths prevalent about this.

Melbourne Football Club was not founded by the MCC but rather some MCC members founded a football club. The formal link between the MCC and MFC was inked in 1890, some 31-32 years after MFC was established.

The MCG was not the Dees first main ground. Whilst a few matches were played here and there at the MCG itself, MFC had its own ground next to the MCG which was nicknamed the 'Gravel Pit'. In 1885 another ground was established where Olympic Park (now Collingwood's training oval) used to be and this was called the Friendly Societies Ground.

Also in 1885-1890 period the main football tenant of the MCG was actually Carlton. Technically the Blues are first football tenant of the MCG.

In 1890 when the MCC formally incorporated MFC as its football component then the MCG became the Dees main homeground and the Dees the main footballing tenant of the MCG.

Yes, ideally the Dees should have developed the Olympic Park site but Collingwood muscled their way into that [and other factors ... can't change that outcome now].

Now, MFC have an opportunity to get a home base in Caulfield which is inside their old historic recruiting zone where they do have supporters who reside nearby and hopefully this comes to fruition.

Looking forward to some positive news tomorrow ... 😊

[demon3165 2,718]

5 hours ago, No. 31 said:

Leo, my point was that people ineverydayy life do indeed factor in the location, the convenience of travel to, the standard of physical facilitie, etc,  when making choices about employment.

AFL footballers will do the same. To think you can have substandard facilities and attract top line trade talent is naive. Especially as in recent years some clubs have built new facilities and some clubs have revamped old facilities.

I recently moved to brand new, modern offices (never occupied previously), quality facilities in a great location and it played a factor in me staying in my current role rather than actively seeking a new position elsewhere.

There is only about 800 players playing in the AFL, so there is a big difference between your job and theirs so no comparison, as for facilities ours are pretty good overall players want to play for successful sides not where it is.

[Whispering_Jack 30,019]

8 hours ago, KLV said:

The football club is a section of the MCC.

https://mcc.org.au/about-the-club/club-history/mcc-historical-timeline

You didn’t scroll down far enough …

[Fritta and Turner 4,403]

22 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

You didn’t scroll down far enough …

Neither did you...

2009 - MFC resumed as a MCC sporting section

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

15 hours ago, Dr. Mubutu said:

......and if it is, it will be a great day and you'll have many a whisky to celebrate?

I mean... you need to celebrate lifes little wins 😄

[Foopy on the telly 529]

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

You didn’t scroll down far enough …

Talk about not doing enough research…

Edited September 17 by Foopy on the telly

[Skuit 10,031]

For those in the know, is it worth me staying up for a while longer? 

[ElDiablo14 4,998]

7 minutes ago, Skuit said:

For those in the know, is it worth me staying up for a while longer? 

Go have a rest.

Best case you'll wake up to happy news.

Worst case you didn't lose sleep.

[Skuit 10,031]

24 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Go have a rest.

Best case you'll wake up to happy news.

Worst case you didn't lose sleep.

But I already subscribed to Gorgoroth's celebration or commiseration whisky philosophy club. 

[Demonland 72,155]

Dear Foundation Heroes,

As you’re aware, in December 2023 we announced the commencement of a feasibility study to identify a location for the club’s long term homebase within the Caulfield Racecourse Reserve. This study formed part of a broader project focused on community sport and recreation resources, assets and services within the Reserve.

In exciting news, I am thrilled to share with our members, that after extensive work and thorough analysis, the feasibility study for our proposed new training and administration facility at Caulfield Racecourse Reserve has been successfully completed and approved to progress to the next stage of the process. This means, we now move into the Business Case Phase of the project.

This phase of the process has focused heavily on stakeholder engagement and garnering local support for the project. The positive sentiment from so many local community organisations and groups has been wide-spread and the feasibility study has definitely highlighted the community’s desire to see this project come to life.

While the success of the feasibility study does not ensure the future of the project, it is a crucial milestone in the process and marks a significant step forward in our journey towards realising our vision of a high-performance facility that makes us all feel proud to belong.

As mentioned above, we will now embark on the business case phase of the project. This phase will see us continue to work closely with all stakeholders to achieve further clarity on key components of the project, resolve any outstanding issues bought to light during the Feasibility Study and to ultimately seek State Government and Caulfield Racecourse Reserve Trust approval to proceed with building our new home.

Within the business case phase, we will need to present the proposed funding model for the project, details of key users of the facility and the specifics of their access, an ongoing operating model for the facility, as well as further exploration of potential designs and layouts to ensure any facility would meet both the needs of the club and the community.

We expect to receive an outcome on the success or otherwise of the business case around mid-2025.

While there is still a way to go, Melbourne members should feel confident in the work being done by all involved to ensure we achieve our vision of uniting our club at a new home-base within our heartland.

As mentioned above, one of the most pleasing aspects of the successful feasibility study was the overwhelming support we received from the Glen Eira community including local sporting clubs and schools, and various other community organisations.

This support brings us closer to our goal of creating a state-of-the-art facility with genuine community integration and connection at its core.

The proposed facility has the potential to transform the lives of those who live and work in the area, providing much-needed green spaces and community resources.

With Glen Eira having the lowest amount of open space within any Victorian municipality, the inclusion of two incredible ovals in the broader masterplan will transform the area and offer amazing new facilities for the community.

As we have previously noted, Glen Eira is a traditional Heartland of the Melbourne Football Club, with many of our Club members and supporters living in the area and many club greats hailing from the area. Hence, the opportunity to create a facility that benefits both our club and the Glen Eira community is an incredibly exciting prospect.   

As always, we remain committed to keeping our members and supporters informed throughout this process.

For more information and frequently asked questions related to the project, please click here.

Thank you for your continued support as we work toward this exciting new chapter for our club.

Go Dees!

Gary Pert

[Katrina Dee Fan 3,655]

Just got the email!!  Just got the email!!! 

[Wells 11 5,397]

so…. all good so far but the “ business case” , which is surely the main part, we now will wait on til mid 25 to see if it can go ahead? 

Anyone with a little more knowledge on these things want to try interpreting this? 

Edited September 18 by Wells 11

[Age 485]

I hope the wires have been crossed somehow but talking to someone in the Premiers office and they told me that there is no way this goes ahead. I am hoping he just means there is no way they get funding from the Govt but will wait and see. 

[Demonland 72,155]