Training Ground?

[Neil Crompton 5,852]

12 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I don't understand why the club is not pushing hard for state of the art facilities in the Southern stand redevelopment and use of Gosch's and also Casey. Wouldn't that be the cheapest option and get us a home?

Perhaps they are, but are silenced by a non disclosure agreement.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,955]

28 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Perhaps they are, but are silenced by a non disclosure agreement.

Could they at least disclose that a non disclosure agreement is preventing them from disclosing anything? 

[whatwhat say what 23,855]

1 hour ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Could they at least disclose that a non disclosure agreement is preventing them from disclosing anything? 

 

wouldn't that disclose it?

[DeelightfulPlay 2,723]

It's standard practice for an NDA to make the existence of and the terms of said NDA subject to the confidentiality obligations 

[Demonland 74,430]

Melbourne has expressed interest in building its new training base at Caulfield Racecourse as part of its long-held plan to bring the club under one roof.

News Corp can reveal the Demons have held talks about shifting their headquarters — including a training oval and gym facilities — to the racecourse as part of plans to redevelop the site.

But the move remains a longshot as it would require significant state government funding to create a community and elite sporting hub tipped to cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

Discussions have centred on training ovals being constructed in the middle of the racecourse and linked by an underground tunnel to buildings outside the track.

The site would be an ideal solution for the Demons as Caulfield Racecourse is only 12km and roughly a 20-minute drive from the MCG.

Importantly there is a significant amount of public land available to develop in conjunction with the Caulfield Racecourse Reserve Trust in the heart of the eastern suburbs.

But the Demons also remain engaged in talks with the AFL and the Melbourne Olympic Parks Trust about redeveloping the area adjoining AAMI Park.

Car Parks E and F could be used to build a multi-story complex which would give the Demons more room for their own facilities which they currently share with Melbourne Storm and Melbourne Victory.

The Demons have labelled their training facilities the worst in the AFL amid a string of setbacks surrounding plans to build a new inner-city home.

It has been a frustration for the club which is currently split between the MCG (administration), AAMI Park (football department), Gosch’s Paddock and Casey Fields.

The training base headache will be one of the top items on the agenda at the club’s annual general meeting on Monday, February 20 when president Kate Roffey and chief executive Gary Pert update members.

[dazzledavey36 56,334]

Can someone post a summary of the article??

Out of curiosity @Demonlandis there some reason why you can't post the full article?

[BDA 23,048]

I think it's a good option. Time to move on from the MGC precinct. We've wasted enough time.

[picket fence 18,184]

52 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne has expressed interest in building its new training base at Caulfield Racecourse as part of its long-held plan to bring the club under one roof.

News Corp can reveal the Demons have held talks about shifting their headquarters — including a training oval and gym facilities — to the racecourse as part of plans to redevelop the site.

But the move remains a longshot as it would require significant state government funding to create a community and elite sporting hub tipped to cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

Discussions have centred on training ovals being constructed in the middle of the racecourse and linked by an underground tunnel to buildings outside the track.

The site would be an ideal solution for the Demons as Caulfield Racecourse is only 12km and roughly a 20-minute drive from the MCG.

Importantly there is a significant amount of public land available to develop in conjunction with the Caulfield Racecourse Reserve Trust in the heart of the eastern suburbs.

But the Demons also remain engaged in talks with the AFL and the Melbourne Olympic Parks Trust about redeveloping the area adjoining AAMI Park.

Car Parks E and F could be used to build a multi-story complex which would give the Demons more room for their own facilities which they currently share with Melbourne Storm and Melbourne Victory.

The Demons have labelled their training facilities the worst in the AFL amid a string of setbacks surrounding plans to build a new inner-city home.

It has been a frustration for the club which is currently split between the MCG (administration), AAMI Park (football department), Gosch’s Paddock and Casey Fields.

The training base headache will be one of the top items on the agenda at the club’s annual general meeting on Monday, February 20 when president Kate Roffey and chief executive Gary Pert update members.

Cripes Caulfield Racecourse??? HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO GET IN THERE FOR TRAINING REPORTS?? I might have to become Bear Grylls, learn how to cross treacherous water ways, navigate like an Olympic Orienteerer, Learn how to jump out of a plane, and negotiating loads of Horse Sheeit. NUP

A few other suggestions

Redevelop Murphy oval in Pt Melbourne or Fitzroys old pad or look at the land adjacent Flagstaff station

[BDA 23,048]

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Cripes Caulfield Racecourse??? HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO GET IN THERE FOR TRAINING REPORTS?? I might have to become Bear Grylls, learn how to cross treacherous water ways, navigate like an Olympic Orienteerer, Learn how to jump out of a plane, and negotiating loads of Horse Sheeit. NUP

Catch the train. Cranbourne, Pakenham and Dandenong lines pass through Caulfield.

[deva5610 970]

9 minutes ago, BDA said:

Catch the train. Cranbourne, Pakenham and Dandenong lines pass through Caulfield.

And the station is right there too.

I like this idea, let's hope we can get some traction with it.

[picket fence 18,184]

17 minutes ago, BDA said:

Catch the train. Cranbourne, Pakenham and Dandenong lines pass through Caulfield.

I'm not talking about the Commute!!!! I'm talking about getting into the venue, Its like a Maze!!

[BDA 23,048]

7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I'm not talking about the Commute!!!! I'm talking about getting into the venue, Its like a Maze!!

[ANG13 2,110]

Well at least the club is finally looking at options outside the MCG precinct. Although feels like where a long way off getting a home. 

[Mister Ed 317]

40 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Cripes Caulfield Racecourse??? HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO GET IN THERE FOR TRAINING REPORTS?? I might have to become Bear Grylls, learn how to cross treacherous water ways, navigate like an Olympic Orienteerer, Learn how to jump out of a plane, and negotiating loads of Horse Sheeit. NUP

A few other suggestions

Redevelop Murphy oval in Pt Melbourne or Fitzroys old pad or look at the land adjacent Flagstaff station

I think I can help with your problem. I’m pretty sure I won’t have any problems talking my way into a racecourse.

[DeeSpencer 26,675]

I had heard rumours of this.

The big question is whether it would be large enough to host AFLW games. Probably on non race days (or nights).

That would be a game changer if it did. You could have the bare minimum in terms of fan facilities around the oval supplemented by the grandstand infrastructure. 

Otherwise if it's purely a training facility it still ticks the boxes as it's in the heartland and is a blank canvas for an oval or two and club facilities. 

That said, pretty sure the Swans tried to line up Randwick before getting their new facilities next to the SCG. So we could just be working on the same game plan.

[DeeSpencer 26,675]

20 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I'm not talking about the Commute!!!! I'm talking about getting into the venue, Its like a Maze!!

Before the redevelopment works - straight in the gate off Kambrook road, underneath the track and park by the BBQ's. Plenty of dog walking space and even some fishing in the lake. Never seen a snake either. All that's likely changed now because it's one big earth moving site last time I saw it. And the next time I'll go there's probably going to be a couple of footy ovals arranged in the middle of the place, whether we are training on them or not!

[Matt Demon 1,597]

I don't think I'll ever see a new training facility, we just go round & round in circles. For as long as I remember a new option gets bought up every few years and nothing ever comes of it. 

[whatwhat say what 23,855]

This was reported as an option around the time Toorak Park was

The latter one never going to be feasible but Caulfield Racecourse may be

[Redleg 42,156]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

I'm not talking about the Commute!!!! I'm talking about getting into the venue, Its like a Maze!!

Straight into the tunnel at end of Glen Eira Road takes you right into the middle. 

[Redleg 42,156]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I had heard rumours of this.

The big question is whether it would be large enough to host AFLW games. Probably on non race days (or nights).

That would be a game changer if it did. You could have the bare minimum in terms of fan facilities around the oval supplemented by the grandstand infrastructure. 

Otherwise if it's purely a training facility it still ticks the boxes as it's in the heartland and is a blank canvas for an oval or two and club facilities. 

That said, pretty sure the Swans tried to line up Randwick before getting their new facilities next to the SCG. So we could just be working on the same game plan.

You can’t have a high grandstand, if it’s in the way of seeing the back of the track.

Caulfield racecourse has massive amounts of area inside the track and outside the track in the old stabling areas.

You could have a low rise grandstand that goes around one side of an oval, with facilities underneath for example, that would not hinder viewing of the track from the racecourse grandstands and/or plenty of room to build in the outside of the track, in the old stables areas.

Get it done Dees.

[Sideshow Bob 2,498]

I like it

A lot.

 

Was there today for the first day of the new monthly craft markets in be middle of the track (wife has an earring business side hustle and goes to various markets).

It's a cracker venue. Easy to access. Heaps of room. Heaps of current facilities for social functions - that are really underutilised. Not in the MCG precinct but close enough to it for the average SE suburb Demon supporter

 

[Demonsone 2,056]

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne has expressed interest in building its new training base at Caulfield Racecourse as part of its long-held plan to bring the club under one roof.

News Corp can reveal the Demons have held talks about shifting their headquarters — including a training oval and gym facilities — to the racecourse as part of plans to redevelop the site.

But the move remains a longshot as it would require significant state government funding to create a community and elite sporting hub tipped to cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

Discussions have centred on training ovals being constructed in the middle of the racecourse and linked by an underground tunnel to buildings outside the track.

The site would be an ideal solution for the Demons as Caulfield Racecourse is only 12km and roughly a 20-minute drive from the MCG.

Importantly there is a significant amount of public land available to develop in conjunction with the Caulfield Racecourse Reserve Trust in the heart of the eastern suburbs.

But the Demons also remain engaged in talks with the AFL and the Melbourne Olympic Parks Trust about redeveloping the area adjoining AAMI Park.

Car Parks E and F could be used to build a multi-story complex which would give the Demons more room for their own facilities which they currently share with Melbourne Storm and Melbourne Victory.

The Demons have labelled their training facilities the worst in the AFL amid a string of setbacks surrounding plans to build a new inner-city home.

It has been a frustration for the club which is currently split between the MCG (administration), AAMI Park (football department), Gosch’s Paddock and Casey Fields.

The training base headache will be one of the top items on the agenda at the club’s annual general meeting on Monday, February 20 when president Kate Roffey and chief executive Gary Pert update members.

Pie in the sky stuff if true & bloody frustrating that our club which is the oldest  and bears the name of the city continues to be treated in such a way from the state gvt with no solution yet they are funding 140 mill for Geelongs stadium .. it’s a disgrace 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Reeks of desperation. Build a multi-storey building admin with gym facilities at AAMI car Park E/F  or do something at Melbourne Park. 
 

 

[Demonsone 2,056]

13 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Reeks of desperation. Build a multi-storey building admin with gym facilities at AAMI car Park E/F  or do something at Melbourne Park. 
 

 

Would have been done if this was the case, there’s a definite issue with both local & state gvt, club needs to clarify what the issues are. Unfortunately previous administrators signed this deal with Casey years ago & whilst it’s yielded premierships across all of the teams it’s not realistic to expect players etc to drive and 1 hr to train. Will keep on saying has the club looked at the Port Melb ground ripe for development in area which will see a huge population growth over the next decade. 

Edited February 5, 2023 by Demonsone

[DeeSpencer 26,675]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

You can’t have a high grandstand, if it’s in the way of seeing the back of the track.

Caulfield racecourse has massive amounts of area inside the track and outside the track in the old stabling areas.

You could have a low rise grandstand that goes around one side of an oval, with facilities underneath for example, that would not hinder viewing of the track from the racecourse grandstands and/or plenty of room to build in the outside of the track, in the old stables areas.

Get it done Dees.

Yep when I said grandstand I meant the racecourse ones. They could host your corporate and dining facilities. Definitely agree that you could sink the oval down a little and run maybe a one story low rise stand along a wing with some seats and weather protection. Some similarities to the Lions new venue.

The development area after removing all the trainers is huge. I think they'd appreciate a pool, gym, medical rooms, business shared spaces etc if they could be shared with the community. They could link in with Glen Eira College to help present the case to the government.