47 minutes ago, Its Time for Another said:

To be fair when the kid was born he’s talking about it was Israel and occupied by the indigenous population who I assume you are calling nowadays occupiers. Perhaps a discussion for a very different forum. There are plenty available elsewhere. 

There's a discussion there to be had, Groucho (I use that avatar-prompted label in positive, appreciative terms😊) but we should agree to just acknowledge eachother's different perspectives and move on back to footy n fun. And both of us trod lightly with our posts - well done us.

20 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

There's a discussion there to be had, Groucho (I use that avatar-prompted label in positive, appreciative terms😊) but we should agree to just acknowledge eachother's different perspectives and move on back to footy n fun. And both of us trod lightly with our posts - well done us.

Yeh let’s just stick to the one true religion practiced here and on it’s one  sanctified ground.  

12 hours ago, Hawk the Demon said:

By making that donation F&T you get to vote in the MFC Board elections. Ain't that worth something?

Apart from a warm fuzzy feeling, not much.

10 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

To be fair when the kid was born he’s talking about it was Israel and occupied by the indigenous population who I assume you are calling nowadays occupiers. Perhaps a discussion for a very different forum. There are plenty available elsewhere. 

he was born in 1948?

12 hours ago, Oxdee said:

I’m developing a 4 storey apartment building with 40 apartments.. cost $17m.. $100m is exorbitant 

Does seem high but we are building a high performance centre for elite footballers (pools, gyms, speialist rooms and probs enclosed court to try out drills in wet weather and behind closed doors etc, plus admin) it should be well north of $60 mill

16 minutes ago, Fritta and Turner said:

Does seem high but we are building a high performance centre for elite footballers (pools, gyms, speialist rooms and probs enclosed court to try out drills in wet weather and behind closed doors etc, plus admin) it should be well north of $60 mill

...and ovals!     Hawthorns new site development at Dingley is around the $120M mark 

13 hours ago, Oxdee said:

I’m developing a 4 storey apartment building with 40 apartments.. cost $17m.. $100m is exorbitant 

As someone with knowledge of the countless unfixed and largely unfixable issues in apartments built in the last 10 years I sure hope your development is of better quality. 

6 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

...and ovals!     Hawthorns new site development at Dingley is around the $120M mark 

Agree...

The published State Govt component for Dingley is under $20M. If we get that amount it may be hard to raise the rest. The other item that will increase costs is building within an active race course. The co-ordination to allow other activities doesn't come cheap... Schedule = Cost

A simple example is will cranes need to be removed on race days so as not to interfere with line of sight viewing from the grandstands

Edited October 15, 20241 yr by Diamond_Jim

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Agree...

The published State Govt component for Dingley is under $20M. If we get that amount it may be hard to raise the rest. The other item that will increase costs is building within an active race course. The co-ordination to allow other activities doesn't come cheap... Schedule = Cost

I will stay on course DJ I will believe it when I see it!

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Agree...

The published State Govt component for Dingley is under $20M. If we get that amount it may be hard to raise the rest. The other item that will increase costs is building within an active race course. The co-ordination to allow other activities doesn't come cheap... Schedule = Cost

A simple example is will cranes need to be removed on race days so as not to interfere with line of sight viewing from the grandstands

Apart from playing fields I didnt think we were proposing to build inside the race course, rather on Booran? Rd

5 hours ago, Fritta and Turner said:

Apart from playing fields I didnt think we were proposing to build inside the race course, rather on Booran? Rd

Yes - the building element is outside the track - just a small pavillion inside the track, near the two ovals.

19 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

😄

Though, at the risk of igniting any number, variety, orientation and strength of responses, to be strictly correct...

...The Occupied Territories.

To be strictly correct, it was called the Kingdom of Judea but to be very clear, I would suggest that posters avoid taking this or any other thread on this site for a walk in that direction.

Absolutely no hope this Caulfield pipe dream gets realised any time soon, imo:

• Relying on a broke state Labor government to chip in at least $50m
• New MRC chairman, John Kanga, is a Collingwood supporter
• The CRRT is chaired by a Sydney supporter, Sam Almaliki

Edited October 16, 20241 yr by dice

6 minutes ago, dice said:

Absolutely no hope this Caulfield pipe dream gets realised any time soon, imo:

• Relying on a broke state Labor government to chip in at least $50m
• New MRC chairman, John Kanga, is a Collingwood supporter
• The CRRT is chaired by a Sydney supporter, Sam Almaliki

as far as kanga goes, collingwood would probably be happy to get their hands on a 2nd ground ... e.g. gosch's

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

To be strictly correct, it was called the Kingdom of Judea but to be very clear, I would suggest that posters avoid taking this or any other thread on this site for a walk in that direction.

You and I must have done the same catch-up googling, Jack? 😉

Anyway, by mutual affirming emojing, @Its Time for Another and I, at least, have recommitted to the direction of the two true religions, fun n footy.

✌️

On 10/09/2024 at 20:42, chookrat said:

While the State Government has issues with its budget I would expect they will contribute a comparable level of funding to what they do for other Victorian based teams. Once the feasibility study is complete I'd expect the State Government to set aside funding in its budget to be released on the business case being approved. 

Expect, or hope???

23 hours ago, Its Time for Another said:

To be fair when the kid was born he’s talking about it was Israel and occupied by the indigenous population who I assume you are calling nowadays occupiers. Perhaps a discussion for a very different forum. There are plenty available elsewhere. 

Not to put too fine a point on this subject of controversy, I had always thought that the area was occupied by the Romans at the time (source: Life of Brian). 

7 hours ago, dice said:

Absolutely no hope this Caulfield pipe dream gets realised any time soon, imo:

• Relying on a broke state Labor government to chip in at least $50m
• New MRC chairman, John Kanga, is a Collingwood supporter
• The CRRT is chaired by a Sydney supporter, Sam Almaliki

You have conveniently overlooked that this facility is for community use also, not just for our training base. 

In addition football allegiances is a very spurious reason to use twice. About the lowest reason to vote No. 

This is not the MRO/ Tribunal   Chair both support Pies!! 

State Local and Federal funds plus MCC and ours are all potentially in the mix. 

My hopes annd expectations are that we will have our base before this decade is over. 

 

11 hours ago, monoccular said:

Expect, or hope???

Not to put too fine a point on this subject of controversy, I had always thought that the area was occupied by the Romans at the time (source: Life of Brian). 

Correct! Amazing I made a small joke and it has developed into a debate on history of the Middle East. 

8 hours ago, 58er said:

State Local and Federal funds plus MCC and ours are all potentially in the mix. 

And if we include facilities for the umps, AFL as well

39 minutes ago, old dee said:

Correct! Amazing I made a small joke and it has developed into a debate on history of the Middle East. 

This IS an amazing Place OD That's for sure! What else you got?

Edited October 16, 20241 yr by Kent

1 hour ago, Kent said:

This IS an amazing Place OD That's for sure! What else you got?

Not much Kent too old to worry about it now. What I do know is in my lifetime it appears we have learnt little, are still killing each other on tribal grounds. 

Edited October 17, 20241 yr by old dee

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Not much Kent too old to worry about it now. What I do know is in my lifetime it appears we have learnt little, are still killing each other on tribal grounds. 

I take it that's a reference to Maynard and Moore. 

Article in the age this morning highlights funding gap

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-70-million-funding-gap-threatens-caulfield-home-base-plans-20241024-p5kl3o.html

On 16/10/2024 at 17:48, daisycutter said:

as far as kanga goes, collingwood would probably be happy to get their hands on a 2nd ground ... e.g. gosch's

The filth and the toiges both want Gosch's. It should be an entertaining scrap.

46 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

The filth and the toiges both want Gosch's. It should be an entertaining scrap.

and the minute it becomes available for the filth, watch all blocking of closing it off and building infrastructure around it suddenly disappear

58 minutes ago, demosaw said:

Article in the age this morning highlights funding gap

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-s-70-million-funding-gap-threatens-caulfield-home-base-plans-20241024-p5kl3o.html

the issue with this sort of story is that it doesn't tell us anything that wasn't already known - there was always going to be a challenge about getting to the proposed $100m in terms of funding it

if, in mid-2025, it's officially 'over' as a dream of a home base at caulfield, i am firmly of the belief that we need to seriously consider abandoning a precinct in the inner city as there's no real options available and go whole-hog out at casey