18 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Governments should spend in a downturn to stimulate the economy

They will but the community benefit coming from upgrading an exclusive facility for an elite sporting club in South Yarra is very low.

If we can mount a case for community benefit well and good but I just cannot see it.

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

They will but the community benefit coming from upgrading an exclusive facility for an elite sporting club in South Yarra is very low.

If we can mount a case for community benefit well and good but I just cannot see it.

You have to have some community integration, we need to have something to sell to the government to invest in

10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You have to have some community integration, we need to have something to sell to the government to invest in

well lots of other clubs have managed to incorporate this, i don't see why we can't. besides it's a good and worthwhile thing to do.

5 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

It was interesting listening to the players comments at the Casey training sessions in the past couple of days.  To paraphrase " good to be at Casey because it is close in size to the MCG, so we can practice using the space"  ( unlike Gosch's).

I noticed that (Jake Lever I think).  It's pretty telling that one of the leaders of our backline identified this as a significant shortcoming of Gosch's and a particular strength of Casey.

You could couple that however with him saying 50 minute drive about 17 times...

Casey Fields could be a realistic long-term option if they can build a Cranbourne bypass.  At the moment, the traffic is a nightmare and is the kind of thing that would turn players/recruits off.

15 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I noticed that (Jake Lever I think).  It's pretty telling that one of the leaders of our backline identified this as a significant shortcoming of Gosch's and a particular strength of Casey.

You could couple that however with him saying 50 minute drive about 17 times...

Casey Fields could be a realistic long-term option if they can build a Cranbourne bypass.  At the moment, the traffic is a nightmare and is the kind of thing that would turn players/recruits off.

I hear what you say about travelling time TPF but I think the travelling time is overdone a bit. Take Lever, do you think he would not have accepted a lucrative contract if he had to travel to Casey. Not too sure. I also believe it is overlooked that some players , maybe country boys could choose to live beyond Cranbourne, even as far as places like Phillip Island or Inverloch if they are into the beach lifestyle. 

Agree with what you said @Half forward flank.

If it is a bit of an issue, just get the player's to be sponsored by a jaguar dealership. A new $150k Jaguar in their driveways will probably keep em quiet ?.

5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Governments should spend in a downturn to stimulate the economy

They are Doc, our area was just given ~$8m for 20ks of bike, running/walking trails between 4 towns.

 

1 minute ago, Cards13 said:

They are Doc, our area was just given ~$8m for 20ks of bike, running/walking trails between 4 towns.

 

Cut down the traffic 

Good

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You have to have some community integration, we need to have something to sell to the government to invest in

With the social distancing rules requiring 4m2 per patron, could we partner with Crown to deliver a training ground and facilities as part of an extension to the Casino go spread out the gaming floors across additional facilities. This provides for community integration, as who doesn't like to play the slots or play their hand at Poker, while increasing State Government revenue and could also include a new Terminal for the Skybus between airport and gaming facilities. Get it done Melbourne!

5 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Hard to believe anything both of those have to say.  Moorabbin to Seaford....really.   Didn't seem to worry Hawthorn who moved from Glenferrie to Waverley and are now heading to Dingley. 

I cannot understand this, Why wouldn't Hawks go back to Heartland and redevelop Glenferrie Oval?? Beautiful patch of grass and conveniently placed Dingley??? WTF

Not sure if this has been discussed but I wonder with Coronavirus happening whether perhaps Casey will be looked at as more of a long term permanent option. Currently it's the only ground we have available to be able to do closed sessions, which is definitely something required for the foreseeable future.

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

I cannot understand this, Why wouldn't Hawks go back to Heartland and redevelop Glenferrie Oval?? Beautiful patch of grass and conveniently placed Dingley??? WTF

modern training facility

• two full size ovals
• indoor training complex
• gym and pool

when was the last time you visited Glenferrie oval?

Richmond will be the next to move

3 hours ago, Pates said:

Not sure if this has been discussed but I wonder with Coronavirus happening whether perhaps Casey will be looked at as more of a long term permanent option. Currently it's the only ground we have available to be able to do closed sessions, which is definitely something required for the foreseeable future.

Government would pump money into high performance sports at Casey. Most of it is already there with athletics track.swimming complex etc

7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

You have to have some community integration, we need to have something to sell to the government to invest in

Again Port Melbourne is an emerging community precinct that can be easily incorporated into an elite trading facility.

10 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

modern training facility

• two full size ovals
• indoor training complex
• gym and pool

when was the last time you visited Glenferrie oval?

Richmond will be the next to move

If Richmond move we should take over the Punt road site and train on the G

can't see the tigers leaving punt road, but stranger things have happened!

10 hours ago, Pates said:

Not sure if this has been discussed but I wonder with Coronavirus happening whether perhaps Casey will be looked at as more of a long term permanent option. Currently it's the only ground we have available to be able to do closed sessions, which is definitely something required for the foreseeable future.

I’ve got no issue if we move out there permanently.

My only concern is it’s so bloody windy out there and would the players be happy to travel there day in day out?

There is space to expand the oval size at Goach’s paddock. It’s not earmarked as green space, so get a few trees cut down and move the footpath. Expand the oval size. Sounds like a far cheaper and more realistic option given the current financial pressures on the league and clubs

Edited May 21, 20205 yr by Leoncelli_36

9 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

can't see the tigers leaving punt road, but stranger things have happened!

Richmond will soon be swimming in money and will be looking at what to do with it.

They'll keep Punt road as a community base and develop a full training complex wherever. May not start for 5-10 years but the Tigers Board would be remiss if they don't have a working group looking at the possibilities.

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Richmond will soon be swimming in money and will be looking at what to do with it.

They'll keep Punt road as a community base and develop a full training complex wherever. May not start for 5-10 years but the Tigers Board would be remiss if they don't have a working group looking at the possibilities.

They might grab Gosch's Paddock,  from under our noses.

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Richmond will soon be swimming in money and will be looking at what to do with it.

They'll keep Punt road as a community base and develop a full training complex wherever. May not start for 5-10 years but the Tigers Board would be remiss if they don't have a working group looking at the possibilities.

Yes, likely with Vic park and Glenferrie as models of how to do it.

15 minutes ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

They might grab Gosch's Paddock,  from under our noses.

Gosch's plus Punt Road could work for Richmond. Not perfect but definitely worth evaluating on the assumption MFC might go elsewhere.

9 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Gosch's plus Punt Road could work for Richmond. Not perfect but definitely worth evaluating on the assumption MFC might go elsewhere.

That's what I was getting at.

 

I think we should plant our flag into Gosch's turf,  now.   

Eddies recently been speaking on our behalf,  bless his silk socks.   He reckons we should blow,  down to Fisherman's Bend.  Since when did eddie do any other club a favour.

Maybe he would like Gosch's, for the Magpiss,  as they're one oval, they say,  is problematic.   The Tiggers to.

 

Its time we took a stand.   Planted our feet within strolling proximity to our Home-Ground,  and make the statement for all to hear.  Big 'C'  melbourne.    Commitment.!  

Commit. Commit.  Commit.....   you cannot take it with you.

 

# PS:   there is room for two...   two Mcg sized ovals, on Gosch's.  Just have to kick the others off and re-jig the placement of the ovals,  then redraw the walkway between them.

No trees need be harmed,  for the ovals new layout.

22 hours ago, dpositive said:

If Richmond move we should take over the Punt road site and train on the G

Richmond is not going to move and nothing will happen at Port Melbourne been talked about for years and a line through it

4 minutes ago, Jack Russell said:

Richmond is not going to move and nothing will happen at Port Melbourne been talked about for years and a line through it

Of course Richmond won't move from Punt Rd oval. That is their history.

But they would jog around the corner to train on Goschs,  just as they have done before,  in the 80's.