Great insight into the whirlwind that these young blokes go through, as well the maturity and professionalism of Luke himself.

"We were also fortunate enough to hear from (former Port Adelaide and Carlton ruckman) Matthew Lobbe, (former Fremantle and Gold Coast midfielder) Michael Barlow and (former Victorian and Australian cricketer) Bobby Quiney on their different pathways and athlete journeys.

The stories and insights they shared with us put into perspective the journey we’re about to embark on.

Our careers won’t always go according to plan and, for some others, their first year might not be as successful as they had hoped, but I think it’s about making sure that you’re working hard, embracing the challenge and utilising the resources around you.

Hopefully I’ll be able to apply the lessons they spoke about to my own life and career."

Jackson ready to embrace the challenge

 

He's going to revolutionise the way the game is played.

 

Interesting to hear Grundy just signed a 7 year/$7mill deal with Pies. 

I can see Jacko having many duels with him on the years to come

Edited January 16, 20205 yr by Moonshadow

21 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

He's going to revolutionise the way the game is played.

Good to see we're all keeping our expectations in check  

In the build up to the draft, I struggled to see the value in picking him at 3. On the basis of some youtube highlights and fluff pieces in the media, I'm now convinced he'll be a star. Being a footy fan does questionable things to one's psyche (especially in the off season). 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Interesting to hear Grundy just signed a 7 year/$7mill deal with Pies. 

I can see Jacko having many duels with him on the years to come

That is a big chunk of their salary cap for the next 7 years he had better stay healthy.

This reminds me of the Buddy deal, the only way it is justifiable is if the Swans win a flag or more. So far no flags and they slipping down the ladder. 

Got a good feeling about this kid 

2 hours ago, old dee said:

That is a big chunk of their salary cap for the next 7 years he had better stay healthy.

This reminds me of the Buddy deal, the only way it is justifiable is if the Swans win a flag or more. So far no flags and they slipping down the ladder. 

Suspect by back end of deal it''ll be a declining chunk of cap.

7 hours ago, The Stigga said:

He's going to revolutionise the way the game is played.

 

Don't hold back ...

I'm  expecting him to be an absolute dud who can barely scrape a game in the twos for the first three years.

Once we've traded him to the Blues , along with a first round pick who goes on to be the next Dustin Martin ,we will watch him dominate the competition and applaud ourselves for our ability to develop raw talent.

In return we'll get a brat with two [censored] knees and a drug problem, a chronic drunk and some geriatric has been.

7 hours ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

Good to see we're all keeping our expectations in check  

Yes indeed, the kid hasn't even kicked a ball in anger in the VFL,  as yet.

 

Let him NOT be the next Watts.

32 minutes ago, Biffen said:

I'm  expecting him to be an absolute dud who can barely scrape a game in the twos for the first three years.

Once we've traded him to the Blues , along with a first round pick who goes on to be the next Dustin Martin ,we will watch him dominate the competition and applaud ourselves for our ability to develop raw talent.

In return we'll get a brat with two [censored] knees and a drug problem, a chronic drunk and some geriatric has been.

Good to see someone working on their MFCSS in the off-season. Important to keep fit.?

GET AROUND HIM !!!

 

2 hours ago, Biffen said:

I'm  expecting him to be an absolute dud who can barely scrape a game in the twos for the first three years.

Once we've traded him to the Blues , along with a first round pick who goes on to be the next Dustin Martin ,we will watch him dominate the competition and applaud ourselves for our ability to develop raw talent.

In return we'll get a brat with two [censored] knees and a drug problem, a chronic drunk and some geriatric has been.

You are a sad, sad Demon, are you by any chance OD's love child?          

On 1/17/2020 at 5:24 PM, Biffen said:

I'm  expecting him to be an absolute dud who can barely scrape a game in the twos for the first three years.

Once we've traded him to the Blues , along with a first round pick who goes on to be the next Dustin Martin ,we will watch him dominate the competition and applaud ourselves for our ability to develop raw talent.

In return we'll get a brat with two [censored] knees and a drug problem, a chronic drunk and some geriatric has been.

 

Look, Biffen - I don't want to be rude but you are a negative, negative slag of a poster and maybe should be on the Blues site.

Because really, you're certainly not on our side and needn't be on our site. Have another malt or go to another site; you are a drag.

11 hours ago, Every Game in '64 said:

Look, Biffen - I don't want to be rude but you are a negative, negative slag of a poster and maybe should be on the Blues site.

Because really, you're certainly not on our side and needn't be on our site. Have another malt or go to another site; you are a drag.

Thanks for the feedback.

Biffen Industries values your opinion greatly and wishes to direct any unwanted suggestions to our Complaints officer Helen Waite.

Please go to Helen Waite.

I put a value on everyone's opinion.........

Have a question I want to ask about Jackson and hunted out this thread and had a first look. What a cracker.  

Question for track watchers particularly those like Saty and BB who have watched a lot of the sessions.  

A lot of the talk is that when Jackson starts playing it will most likely be in the forward line. Most of the training I saw him doing for the one session I saw was with the rucks so it looked like that's mainly where he's being taught to play. Have you seen him doing much training with the forwards if that's where people think he's going to start playing?

58 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Have a question I want to ask about Jackson and hunted out this thread and had a first look. What a cracker.  

Question for track watchers particularly those like Saty and BB who have watched a lot of the sessions.  

A lot of the talk is that when Jackson starts playing it will most likely be in the forward line. Most of the training I saw him doing for the one session I saw was with the rucks so it looked like that's mainly where he's being taught to play. Have you seen him doing much training with the forwards if that's where people think he's going to start playing?

Every time I’ve seen Stafford doing ruck specific training Jackson has been with the rucks.

But otherwise I’ve seen him with the forward group and with the mids (including rucks) about 50/50. And I’ve only seen him do match sim a couple of times, both times with the forwards. Gawn has gone head to head with Preuss as the rucks.

If he gets a game early in the year I expect he’ll be the back up ruck for the 5 minutes a quarter that Gawn rests, and then will play forward for the rest of his allocated game time. If he’s good enough and physically up to playing then won’t he be our best relief ruckman option? 

42 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Every time I’ve seen Stafford doing ruck specific training Jackson has been with the rucks.

But otherwise I’ve seen him with the forward group and with the mids (including rucks) about 50/50. And I’ve only seen him do match sim a couple of times, both times with the forwards. Gawn has gone head to head with Preuss as the rucks.

If he gets a game early in the year I expect he’ll be the back up ruck for the 5 minutes a quarter that Gawn rests, and then will play forward for the rest of his allocated game time. If he’s good enough and physically up to playing then won’t he be our best relief ruckman option? 

Thanks DeeSpencer, I meant to include you in that list of training watches. Great informed reply. Much appreciated. 

On 1/17/2020 at 11:07 AM, old dee said:

This reminds me of the Buddy deal, the only way it is justifiable is if the Swans win a flag or more. So far no flags and they slipping down the ladder. 

OD beg to differ on Buddy's value to Swans. Membership after the 2012 flag was 35,000. Membership two years after he came to Swans was 56,000. They had to get a marquee player to protect their position for sponsorships and memberships in the Sydney market against GWS. The Swans stated a year in that he paid his entire 9 year salary within a year of going there with increased memberships and merchandise, not to mention being given much greater TV and media coverage. I used to go to the pre season intra club games to study them close up to pick up any tips for junior coaching. They used to get about 200 of us and virtually no media. The first year Buddy came there were over 2000 people, every TV channel had crews there and there were even helicopters overhead. 

They don't need to win a Premiership to justify that deal. They loaded his contract in the middle years so he's on $750k for the last 3 years. A lot less than a lot of other marquee players. He will continue to pull crowds till the end. As long as he gets on the park of course. 

25 minutes ago, It's Time said:

OD beg to differ on Buddy's value to Swans. Membership after the 2012 flag was 35,000. Membership two years after he came to Swans was 56,000. They had to get a marquee player to protect their position for sponsorships and memberships in the Sydney market against GWS. The Swans stated a year in that he paid his entire 9 year salary within a year of going there with increased memberships and merchandise, not to mention being given much greater TV and media coverage. I used to go to the pre season intra club games to study them close up to pick up any tips for junior coaching. They used to get about 200 of us and virtually no media. The first year Buddy came there were over 2000 people, every TV channel had crews there and there were even helicopters overhead. 

They don't need to win a Premiership to justify that deal. They loaded his contract in the middle years so he's on $750k for the last 3 years. A lot less than a lot of other marquee players. He will continue to pull crowds till the end. As long as he gets on the park of course. 

Kind of the opposite of Boyd who gave the Bulldogs nothing except an elusive premiership.

13 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Kind of the opposite of Boyd who gave the Bulldogs nothing except an elusive premiership.

Yeh. So true. Of course we'd take the Boyd outcome. But Swans had already snared a couple and were very concerned about GWS impact in Sydney. 

2 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

beg to differ on Buddy's value to Swans. Membership after the 2012 flag was 35,000. Membership two years after he came to Swans was 56,000. They had to get a marquee player to protect their position for sponsorships and memberships in the Sydney market against GWS.

 

2 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

They don't need to win a Premiership to justify that deal. They loaded his contract in the middle years so he's on $750k for the last 3 years. A lot less than a lot of other marquee players.

 

1 hour ago, It's Time said:

So true. Of course we'd take the Boyd outcome. But Swans had already snared a couple and were very concerned about GWS impact in Sydney.

That Buddy deal, ( although at the time, I was outraged that the Swans stole him from under GWS's noses ),  has probably worked out to be a win/win for both sides. 

Marketing wise, for the Swans, as they maintained publicity, during rebuilding.

And for GWS,  who I believe Budd would have been the wrong choice of personality,  for a young fledgling side, and club.