MFC's Foreign Legion

[Sir Why You Little 37,120]

4 hours ago, Jontee said:

Ted Fidge;  I have a memory vs Richmond, ball down Punt Rd end, Ted on the members wing (right in front of me), when a Richmond player pointed to his chin and asked Ted to have a go....gee there was alot of blood.

 

Anyway back on topic what about Jamie Duursma...played on Dermot 2 weeks running and did the job, did a job on Kernahan in a final;  not a great player but played some great games

Dursma was a great footballer in 1988

Did his knee the next season???

[Tim 3,472]

5 hours ago, Jontee said:

Anyway back on topic what about Jamie Duursma...played on Dermot 2 weeks running and did the job, did a job on Kernahan in a final;  not a great player but played some great games

Jamie was handy (esp the Sticks effort) but I reckon that the job on Dermie was done by another good import, Peter Rohde, in 1990.

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12 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm curious...would you play White and Ditterich in the same side or not play White? If you play both, would you do so as two ruckmen or have one play in a different position?

For what it's worth, when they played with us, I think White was the better ruckman but could not play any other position. I can't recall Ditterich playing anywhere with us other than as a ruckman. I would only pick one ruckman, so I would choose White. Peter Moore can provide the back-up.

You tell Carl he's not playing 'La Dee'....

Personally I would play him off the bench to clean up any issues we may have with opposition players.

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Alan Jarrott in for Bizzell.

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10 hours ago, ProperDee said:

Alan Jarrott in for Bizzell.

Good point ProperDee, 99 solid games for the Dees. He was mentioned when this list was been formed  but I think the red wine kicked in and he some how got left off. OP might need to review this one.

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On 1/15/2020 at 10:04 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I doubt anyone will object if we remove Alistair Clarkson from the team...and make him non-playing coach instead.

Sorry he  wouldn't qualify under "have to have coached at least 1 senior game with another VFL/AFL club before coming to Melbourne" There is only one coach that meets this , anyone want to guess who???

Edited January 16, 2020 by Bucket list

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1 hour ago, Bucket list said:

Sorry he  wouldn't qualify under "have to have coached at least 1 senior game with another VFL/AFL club before coming to Melbourne" There is only one coach that meets this , anyone want to guess who???

The great Norm Smith himself.

Or maybe you mean Paul Roos, but I'm pretty sure that adds up to two.

[dieter 3,325]

On 1/15/2020 at 10:04 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I doubt anyone will object if we remove Alistair Clarkson from the team...and make him non-playing coach instead.

Clarkson was a very ordinary footballer.

[ManDee 7,215]

12 hours ago, Bucket list said:

Sorry he  wouldn't qualify under "have to have coached at least 1 senior game with another VFL/AFL club before coming to Melbourne" There is only one coach that meets this , anyone want to guess who???

On that criteria you could add Barrassi or Neil Craig

[Dee Dee 1,116]

11 hours ago, dieter said:

Clarkson was a very ordinary footballer.

But he could yap ‘n yap ‘n yap till the cows come home?!

Annoying little bu**er!

Edited January 16, 2020 by Dee Dee

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15 hours ago, Bucket list said:

Sorry he  wouldn't qualify under "have to have coached at least 1 senior game with another VFL/AFL club before coming to Melbourne" There is only one coach that meets this , anyone want to guess who???

Other than Ronald Dale Barassi jnr

Before coming to Melbourne:

Paul Roos (2014-16) coached Sydney in (2002-10)

Neil Craig (2013) coached Adelaide in (2004-11)

John Northey (1986-92) coached Sydney in 1985. 

Bobby Skilton (1974-77) coached Sth Melbourne (1965-66)

On results at MFC I would pick John Northey as coach of the Foreign Legion for he got as into the finals for the first time in a squillon years and a GF the following year. I have some fond memories of those years under Swooper.

 

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On 1/15/2020 at 4:19 PM, Dee Dee said:

Big Carl was captain/coach of the Dee’s in ‘79. I particularly remember his last game against Collingwood where he went about clobbering every opposition player in sight, very entertaining and something one doesn’t see these days.

 

 

[Every Game in '64 25]

Yeah, I was at this game too.

Carl was spent. He stood around the forward line, white head band and all, hoping to find the football kicked in his direction.

He was impotent. Whether he clocked a few blokes  or not didn't help us in the slightest. The Filth won comfortably - watching Kink was the best part of a bad day out for the Dees.

[Cranky Franky 2,089]

Several major omissions as far as I am concerned.

 

Henry Coles was an excellent rover & goal kicking fwd pocket for us.

Also in terms of talent surely Alan Davis & Phil Carman get in - both were brilliant players.

Cross, Crosswell & Clarkson were way past their best when they came to us & were only there to teach some of the younger players.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Several major omissions as far as I am concerned.

 

Henry Coles was an excellent rover & goal kicking fwd pocket for us.

Also in terms of talent surely Alan Davis & Phil Carman get in - both were brilliant players.

Cross, Crosswell & Clarkson were way past their best when they came to us & were only there to teach some of the younger players.

 

 

Great post Cranky and I love the collective knowledge of Demonlanders. My knowledge of players in the 70's is pretty sketchy

Seems that Henry Cole was a gem of a player for us and big V rep as as well.  And Allan Davis has a fine CV as well.  No doubts on talent, but unfortunately for Fabulous Phil the only real  impact he had once he left Collingwood was on Graham Carberry.

Henry Coles

Collingwood 44 - (48)

MFC 77 - (106)

Allan Davis

St Kilda 173 - (308)

MFC 41 - (36)

 

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On 1/14/2020 at 9:35 PM, Optimus D said:

Since our last Premiership in 64 the Melbourne Football Club has brought in a long list of players from other clubs to bolster its team and in some cases hoping to lead us to that elusive cup. So with the help of some Melbourne tragics over a bottle or two of red we have put together a best of the lot list and called it the MFC Foreign Legion. (Why you may ask – well we have not got a selection of premierships on DVD to watch is one and after a bottle or two it seem a good idea)

By no means a team of the century, but perhaps a best of list that you can reminisce about and a list that made an impact in their time with us. We had a limited knowledge of player movements in the sixties and early seventies and I am sure we have missed some from this era and possibly players in recent times that should make the team.

The team was put together on the following basis:

Players had to have played at least 1 senior game with another VFL/AFL club before coming to Melbourne and could not be on MFC’s current list.

Each player is listed with the previous club they played for with the number of games played and goals in brackets along with MFC games and goals.

MFC's Foreign Legion

Brings back some great memories, this team does, and i like the idea of notables, which of course is code for...would have been playing if hadn't been rubbed out.

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On 1/17/2020 at 11:16 AM, Optimus D said:

Other than Ronald Dale Barassi jnr

Before coming to Melbourne:

Paul Roos (2014-16) coached Sydney in (2002-10)

Neil Craig (2013) coached Adelaide in (2004-11)

John Northey (1986-92) coached Sydney in 1985. 

Bobby Skilton (1974-77) coached Sth Melbourne (1965-66)

On results at MFC I would pick John Northey as coach of the Foreign Legion for he got as into the finals for the first time in a squillon years and a GF the following year. I have some fond memories of those years under Swooper.

 

wot? no checker hughes?

7 premierships.....2x player richmond,  1x coach richmond,  4x coach melbourne

[sorry] just realised it was for post 1964......carry on, i'll go back to reading my comic

Edited January 19, 2020 by daisycutter

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Stephen Powell?

 

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On 1/15/2020 at 8:34 AM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I like the concept. I'd like it even more if we dreamt of what might have been if each of the players mentioned played their best football with us. If that were the case, Crosswell would be a certain starter. Conversely, if Crosswell isn't good enough to get a game based on his performance with us, I'm not sure Templeton is either.

Yes, amongst many, this is a conundrum about Brent Crosswell. Unless contributors have seen the named players, it would be a tough task to make a token allocation in such a listing. BC was a great gathered asset; a man with great skills and execution that would surprise. I'd have him in any side, whereas another superstar, Kelvin Templeton, arrived at the Dees knobbled with post-surgical reduction (in skills and capacity to apply these) which was a tremendous sadness. Prior to his knee injuries, KT was the ultimate (perhaps the best CHF you ever saw) player with Footscray. He was unbeatable in that era, and no-one could control his contribution up forward. Nearly every game he played, he was BOG, by a mile. BC was not at the same standard of consistent lethality, yet reasonably close; yet, BC gets my nod between the two as he was less 'damaged' in his contribution to the Dees than KT. 

 

[dpositive 1,672]

Some great contributions here. AsOD says the collective recall of Dlanders does provide inspiration. I hope the next (and the next) generation are able to do a similar excercise with our multiple premiership list post 2018

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,906]

And on a slight tangent, if I recall correctly, one year under Bailey I believe we had only three players on the list who had previously been on the list of another AFL club. Brent Moloney would have been one; I can't recall the others. I suspect Bailey had the idea that a homegrown list is better than a Foreign Legion.

[Cranky Franky 2,089]

20 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

And on a slight tangent, if I recall correctly, one year under Bailey I believe we had only three players on the list who had previously been on the list of another AFL club. Brent Moloney would have been one; I can't recall the others. I suspect Bailey had the idea that a homegrown list is better than a Foreign Legion.

And the worst decision Bailey ever made (which still haunts us) was to overlook Dylan Grimes in the pre season draft & pick Joel McDonald instead. 

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On 1/15/2020 at 4:19 PM, Dee Dee said:

Big Carl was captain/coach of the Dee’s in ‘79. I particularly remember his last game against Collingwood where he went about clobbering every opposition player in sight, very entertaining and something one doesn’t see these days.

 

And Jimmy Durnan joined in as well.  As well as some others.

Prone Magpies littered the grounds surface, all over the place.

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A special mention to the head case that was the insane Rod Owen from St Kilda (was it in the 90's?)'

Kicked a lazy 7 against the filth out at Waverley, A true couldabeen.

And ya can't leave out Diamond Jim Tillbrook - recruited from SA in the eighties for a big bag of cash - had  A BIG BOOT ON HIM AND ALSO KICKED SEVEN OFF THE FORWARD FLANK AND THEN HAD A COUPLE OF MORE GAMES BEFORE EVERYONE (ELSE) WORKED OUT HE COULD ONLY TURN ONE WAY. ONE TRICK PONY WHO DIDN'T FINISH OUT THE SEASON!

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What about Andrew Obst ex Port Adelaide? he was gun