Dr Peter Brukner

[Cards13 9,117]

He's back... couple of little articles in some of today's papers:

"Meanwhile, Melbourne's football department facelift will see Dr Peter Brukner return to the club he worked for in the late 1980s. Demons .."

[Demonland 74,114]

There is mention in this article: Lions on brink of another golden era

Meanwhile, Melbourne’s football department facelift will see Dr Peter Brukner return to the club he worked for in the late 1980s.

Demons football boss Josh Mahoney has made mass changes to the club after its disastrous season with former St Kilda coach Alan Richardson and high-priced fitness guru Darren Burgess the big-name signings.

Brukner was previously the Australian cricket team’s medico and will also be well known to footy fans through his various media roles.

The experienced sports medical expert has held positions at ABC Radio as a boundary rider, SEN and Fox Footy. This year he penned articles for Fairfax.

The Demons have farewelled assistant coaches Brendan McCartney, Jade Rawlings and Craig Jennings as part of Mahoney’s revamp.

[Sydee 4,668]

Assume this is good but not sure his role - presumably to support Darren Burgess from a medical assessment perspective

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

16 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Assume this is good but not sure his role - presumably to support Darren Burgess from a medical assessment perspective

We've got a number of docs and medico's on staff that all sit behind Burgess, but Brukner is a massive get, his experience in the sports medicine field is nearly unmatched. No matter how big/small his role this is great for the club.

Have a look at his resume if you want to know more.

https://www.peterbrukner.com/ 

[dazzledavey36 56,114]

Legit never heard of this bloke..

But welcome Pete!

[hemingway 7,633]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Legit never heard of this bloke..

But welcome Pete!

Set up Olympic Sports Medicine Centre at Olympic Park approx 30 years ago, the first dedicated multi-disciplined sports clinic for elite athletes and the weekend jogger. It was at the time, we first started to hear about Sports Medicine and doctors specializing in the field.

A researcher and practitioner, he is a Professor at Lat Trobe Uni.

At the same time, he was MFC doctor in the Northey years. Lots of photos of him with the team in those days, sitting on the bench etc. At the time, he was a professed Demon supporter.

Was involved with other AFL team, Collingwood being one and also Sports doctor for Olympic teams such as hockey, Aussie Test team and other sports.  Also spent time in UK. Would be in his mid to late 60s, so has lots of experience. Not a bad thing. Also written text books on Sports Medicine and regarded as one of the doyens in the field.  There are mixed views in the field about him but this is not unusual in medicine with its petty jealousies and rivalries. 

He has built a successful business so my guess is that he would not come cheap. With all his other interests, he would not be full-time but act more as consultant as needed. My guess. 

 

[DeeSpencer 26,617]

This may be wrong or even offensive but I feel we made a huge mistake when Misson came on board and our experienced doctors left and apparently went to Richmond. IIRC reports at the time said they weren’t happy with the power structure.

We then hired Dr Z as our main doctor who at that stage had very little sports medicine experience and wasn’t even a Sports med registrar yet alone an experience clinician. 

Dr Z seems quite popular and I have nothing against the guy but he’s far more experienced now than when he first got the gig. 

If Burgess is either willing to work with or requires an experienced doctor to work alongside then that’s a huge show of competence to me. Good people recognise their strengths and weaknesses and work well with other experienced and quality colleagues. 

[hemingway 7,633]

28 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

This may be wrong or even offensive but I feel we made a huge mistake when Misson came on board and our experienced doctors left and apparently went to Richmond. IIRC reports at the time said they weren’t happy with the power structure.

We then hired Dr Z as our main doctor who at that stage had very little sports medicine experience and wasn’t even a Sports med registrar yet alone an experience clinician. 

Dr Z seems quite popular and I have nothing against the guy but he’s far more experienced now than when he first got the gig. 

If Burgess is either willing to work with or requires an experienced doctor to work alongside then that’s a huge show of competence to me. Good people recognise their strengths and weaknesses and work well with other experienced and quality colleagues. 

Not offensive and possibly a lot of truth in what you say. 

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

7 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Not offensive and possibly a lot of truth in what you say. 

Finally a KPF we all been clamouring for......no?

[The Chazz 4,077]

36 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

This may be wrong or even offensive but I feel we made a huge mistake when Misson came on board and our experienced doctors left and apparently went to Richmond. IIRC reports at the time said they weren’t happy with the power structure.

We then hired Dr Z as our main doctor who at that stage had very little sports medicine experience and wasn’t even a Sports med registrar yet alone an experience clinician. 

Dr Z seems quite popular and I have nothing against the guy but he’s far more experienced now than when he first got the gig. 

If Burgess is either willing to work with or requires an experienced doctor to work alongside then that’s a huge show of competence to me. Good people recognise their strengths and weaknesses and work well with other experienced and quality colleagues. 

The amount of froth flying around here when Misson was first employed by the MFC would suggest that most people (both internally and on this forum) thought the club made the right decision.  Given he (Misson) started when we were in a total hole as a club, I'm sure there wouldn't have been too many arguments against significant changes being made.  If that upset a few ex-employees, then tough.

[hemingway 7,633]

16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Finally a KPF we all been clamouring for......no?

?

[chook fowler 19,756]

very experienced man. wrote the definitive text on sports med and i think i am right in saying he was the chief medical officer for the olympic team at one point.

[Pennant St Dee 13,425]

Good to see some more experience in the strength, conditioning and medical side of the FD.

Well done to JM continuing to go about his business 

But the lunatic fringe still want him gone because he was around for 186

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

Also was the Doc at Liverpool FC

[Grimes Times 1,278]

Just now, iv'a worn smith said:

Also was the Doc at Liverpool FC

Worked with Burguss at both the Socceroos and LFC

[hemingway 7,633]

It’s not a bad CV. 

[Webber 10,650]

Most experienced and credentialed sports med physician in Melbourne. I would suggest he’ll work in an overseer/consultative role. To address any confusion, fitness and conditioning ‘gurus’ like Burgess and Misson are only that. They are not trained to, or expected to assess or diagnose pathology, and ONLY manage players with injuries as relates to their return to match fitness. In this they will be advised by medical staff as to what players can and can’t do. When they are the mouthpiece, as Misson was week to week, on where players are at with rehab, it’s easy to assume they are more medically involved I guess. They do not make any of the injury based decisions. 

[Redleg 42,086]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Legit never heard of this bloke..

But welcome Pete!

He was our club Doctor for a few years and is one of the highest credentialled and most experienced Sports Docs around.

A great get.

[TGR 1,367]

He is a good get.  Read Brukner and Khan when you get a chance.  It makes more sense than the current diatribe (pilates, core-glute strengthening, non-specific back pain bulltish).

The handling of many players, from Viney's foot to Joel Smith's soft-tissues has been overtly appalling.  Sending players (May, Smith, Viney Shoulder) back on the park with soft-tissue injuries in games that have been decided or don't matter, defies logic.  In fact it is laughable.  For a so-called professional outfit, it was easy to see the amateur hour that reigned.

 

 

 

[DeeSpencer 26,617]

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

The amount of froth flying around here when Misson was first employed by the MFC would suggest that most people (both internally and on this forum) thought the club made the right decision.  Given he (Misson) started when we were in a total hole as a club, I'm sure there wouldn't have been too many arguments against significant changes being made.  If that upset a few ex-employees, then tough.

It's wrong to rewrite history without even any of the internal knowledge and Misson is a particular victim of that. We forget he did some very good work over the years. But pushing out a doctor with 20 years experience and full qualifications for a guy who wasn't even qualified in the field was almost certainly a mistake. If it was done to achieve a certain power structure - which may or may not be true - then that's a particularly poor mistake.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

11 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

But pushing out a doctor with 20 years experience and full qualifications for a guy who wasn't even qualified in the field was almost certainly a mistake.

It was at a time when sports science was king and clubs left right and centre were marginalising their docs. It took the madness of King James and his court dankster to show where that leads. The inmates do not should not run the asylum.

[Lucifers Hero 40,656]

24 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's wrong to rewrite history without even any of the internal knowledge and Misson is a particular victim of that. We forget he did some very good work over the years. But pushing out a doctor with 20 years experience and full qualifications for a guy who wasn't even qualified in the field was almost certainly a mistake. If it was done to achieve a certain power structure - which may or may not be true - then that's a particularly poor mistake.

Dr Dan Bates was the replacement for our '20 year experience' doctors who left in in 2011.  Dr Z  Dr Zeeshan Arain started in 2013 after Dr Bates resigned for involving MFC with the shady S Danks.

I'm not saying Dr Arain has or hasn't the required experience just noting that he did not replace the doctor(s) who left with Misson's arrival in 2011. 

At this stage we don't know what Dr Brunkner's role is or whether Dr Arain will stay with the club.  So it may be a bit early to say his appointment is a mistake. 

Edited October 24, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Lucifers Hero 40,656]

fwiw, I reckon a key reason for our fitness problems this year was losing Rob Jackson early in the 2019 pre-season.  In the preceding years I recall a number of our players did extra work at his gym. 

In the 2018 pre-season there were a lot of mfc articles about the extra work players did.  Don't recall such articles in the 2019 pre-season.  That may or may not have anything to do with Rob Jackson leaving but he left a gaping hole at the club and the way 2019 played out I'm not sure we ever filled it.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Demon trucker 1,800]

11 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

fwiw, I reckon a key reason for our fitness problems this year was losing Rob Jackson early in the 2019 pre-season.  In the preceding years I recall a number of our players did extra work at his gym. 

In the 2018 pre-season there were a lot of mfc articles about the extra work players did.  Don't recall such articles in the 2019 pre-season.  That may or may not have anything to do with Rob Jackson leaving but he left a gaping hole at the club and the way 2019 played out I'm not sure we ever filled it.

Maybe because the 2019 preseason there where so many surgeries and that so many were in rehab and could not do extra's

[Lucifers Hero 40,656]

3 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Maybe because the 2019 preseason there where so many surgeries and that so many were in rehab and could not do extra's

I wasn't too clear, I guess.  I didn't mean to say all players should have done extras, more that losing Jackson was a huge loss in helping players build their strength and conditioning at whatever level their fitness/rehab allowed them at different stages in the pre-season and in season.