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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?

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Patton may not be such a bargain after three knee recos.  I'd have been reluctant to trade for him.

Imagine this forum if we did draft him and he did his knee again?

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      On 15/10/2019 at 04:34, demonstone said:

    Patton may not be such a bargain after three knee recos.  I'd have been reluctant to trade for him.

    Imagine this forum if we did draft him and he did his knee again?

    I agree.

    I'm not too fussed about him, is 26 and will be almost 27 start of next season and has kicked over 40 goals once in his career.

    He could be a solid player, but I have doubts over his durability.

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      On 15/10/2019 at 04:34, demonstone said:

    Patton may not be such a bargain after three knee recos.  I'd have been reluctant to trade for him.

    Imagine this forum if we did draft him and he did his knee again?

    You do realise that even if Patton only plays 10 games, that is still more than 80% of 4th round picks ever will.

    Yes I understand that salary cap implications, but that is such a low risk trade for Hawthorn. Patton is much more likely to be a decent player for them than someone they pick in next year's 4th round. 

    I really am dumbfounded by this trade from GWS' perspective, unless he is on MASSIVE coin and they needed the cap relief desperately. 

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      On 15/10/2019 at 05:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Are we gambling on Joel Smith having an injury free year to supplement our key forward stocks?

    He did kick 6 goals in the JLT and looked quite good.

    I hope we play Joel at FF with Fritsch. 

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      On 15/10/2019 at 04:42, Jaded said:

    I really am dumbfounded by this trade from GWS' perspective, unless he is on MASSIVE coin and they needed the cap relief desperately. 

    Especially since GWS said they weren’t going to give him up cheaply like they did with old $culldog. I don’t know how the Hawks do it, is their negotiator a Jedi or something!?

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      On 15/10/2019 at 08:31, Pates said:

    Especially since GWS said they weren’t going to give him up cheaply like they did with old $culldog. I don’t know how the Hawks do it, is their negotiator a Jedi or something!?

    The Hawks are taking on A grade talent which are paid like A grade talent with D grade output.

    GWS needed Scully and Patton off their books so they can retain they players which aren't injured and know will play their best.. whitfield, cameron, Coniglio etc 

    Even though Scully came back and played most of this year he hardly had much impact. Patton I dare say will be much the same 

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      On 15/10/2019 at 09:48, GCDee said:

    The Hawks are taking on A grade talent which are paid like A grade talent with D grade output.

    GWS needed Scully and Patton off their books so they can retain they players which aren't injured and know will play their best.. whitfield, cameron, Coniglio etc 

    Even though Scully came back and played most of this year he hardly had much impact. Patton I dare say will be much the same 

    We can only hope 

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      On 15/10/2019 at 04:42, Jaded said:

    You do realise that even if Patton only plays 10 games, that is still more than 80% of 4th round picks ever will.

    Yes I understand that salary cap implications, but that is such a low risk trade for Hawthorn. Patton is much more likely to be a decent player for them than someone they pick in next year's 4th round. 

    I really am dumbfounded by this trade from GWS' perspective, unless he is on MASSIVE coin and they needed the cap relief desperately. 

    It's this.

    Salary dumping.

    He's fourth in line in their forward line (Cameron and Himmelberg are better than him, Finalyson is arguably as good), on a big salary and with dodgy knees. They want his salary off the books to help keep the rest of their stars.

    I'll be frustrated if Patton turns into a star for Hawthorn, but I understand what GWS is doing.

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      On 15/10/2019 at 05:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Are we gambling on Joel Smith having an injury free year to supplement our key forward stocks?

    He did kick 6 goals in the JLT and looked quite good.

    Jesus I hope not

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    Yoko: the final countdown....

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      On 15/10/2019 at 22:33, Robbie57 said:

    Yoko: the final countdown....

    Yoko has gone very quite, I don't think there is any deal for a Victorian key forward getting done in 10 hours which the media hasn't sniffed out yet....

     

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      On 15/10/2019 at 22:44, GCDee said:

    Yoko has gone very quite, I don't think there is any deal for a Victorian key forward getting done in 10 hours which the media hasn't sniffed out yet....

     

    Oh, what about ET the tradebreaker?

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      On 15/10/2019 at 22:44, GCDee said:

    Yoko has gone very quite, I don't think there is any deal for a Victorian key forward getting done in 10 hours which the media hasn't sniffed out yet....

     

    Perhaps it’s happening and @Yokozunais staying silent until it’s announced!

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      On 15/10/2019 at 22:59, Gawn's Beard said:

    Perhaps it’s happening and @Yokozunais staying silent until it’s announced!

    No idea if it is going ahead or not, but I am surprised nothing has been said in the media (which is one of a few things, the suggested target and/or club shut it down so quickly it was not talked about enough to spark media interest OR we run a tight ship and nobody is speaking OR it was never on the cards) and I would unfortunately have to say the target I was told about is highly unlikely now, given the time left in the trade period.

    I am of course hoping it is the point that nobody is speaking and we run a tight ship! Doubtful though.

    Some of the other trade and contract signing news has also most likely hurt our chance of getting said player now!

    But, let’s not give up hope of something happening before the deadline, whether it be this player or someone else.

     

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:39, Yokozuna said:

    No idea if it is going ahead or not, but I am surprised nothing has been said in the media (which is one of a few things, the suggested target and/or club shut it down so quickly it was not talked about enough to spark media interest OR we run a tight ship and nobody is speaking OR it was never on the cards) and I would unfortunately have to say the target I was told about is highly unlikely now, given the time left in the trade period.

    I am of course hoping it is the point that nobody is speaking and we run a tight ship! Doubtful though.

    Some of the other trade and contract signing news has also most likely hurt our chance of getting said player now!

    But, let’s not give up hope of something happening before the deadline, whether it be this player or someone else.

     

    Can you reveal who the player was??

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:39, Yokozuna said:

    No idea if it is going ahead or not, but I am surprised nothing has been said in the media (which is one of a few things, the suggested target and/or club shut it down so quickly it was not talked about enough to spark media interest OR we run a tight ship and nobody is speaking OR it was never on the cards) and I would unfortunately have to say the target I was told about is highly unlikely now, given the time left in the trade period.

    I am of course hoping it is the point that nobody is speaking and we run a tight ship! Doubtful though.

    Some of the other trade and contract signing news has also most likely hurt our chance of getting said player now!

    But, let’s not give up hope of something happening before the deadline, whether it be this player or someone else.

     

    Honestly, even if nothing happens. This rumour has made this thread good fun in a really slow trade week

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:43, ArtificialWisdom said:

    Honestly, even if nothing happens. This rumour has made this thread good fun in a really slow trade week

    Glad I can keep you interested.

      On 15/10/2019 at 23:42, dazzledavey36 said:

    Can you reveal who the player was??

    I will later tonight, if that’s ok with you guys. Let’s wait and see.

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      On 15/10/2019 at 22:45, Robbie57 said:

    Oh, what about ET the tradebreaker?

    I’m of the understanding the target was a gun who can’t quite spell stone. #Iseewhispers

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:46, Yokozuna said:

    Glad I can keep you interested.

    I will later tonight, if that’s ok with you guys. Let’s wait and see.

    Fair enough.

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    So it looks like we are chasing Daniher.

    Can't see why chasing a bloke who hasn't played in two years benefits anyone other than the rehab group which has included May & Lever far too much since we recruited them

     

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:53, Dee Watcher said:

    So it looks like we are chasing Daniher.

    Can't see why chasing a bloke who hasn't played in two years benefits anyone other than the rehab group which has included May & Lever far too much since we recruited them

     

    That just seems impossible and it would suggest that Daniher was lying about going to Sydney to retain some privacy and playing with another one of his father's clubs, but rather just wanted to leave the Bombers at all costs.

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:53, Dee Watcher said:

    So it looks like we are chasing Daniher.

    Can't see why chasing a bloke who hasn't played in two years benefits anyone other than the rehab group which has included May & Lever far too much since we recruited them

     

    Not sure if this is in regards to my posts, but I can categorically deny that Daniher is the person I was talking about.

    I do not want Daniher and wouldn’t be excited to have him, unless we knew he was fit and able to play full seasons, and I doubt that at this age.

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      On 15/10/2019 at 23:53, Dee Watcher said:

    So it looks like we are chasing Daniher.

    Can't see why chasing a bloke who hasn't played in two years benefits anyone other than the rehab group which has included May & Lever far too much since we recruited them

     

    where did u hear this?

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