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10 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Come on man I mean who hasn’t found themselves in that position or with mates who have?!

Dazzle knows his footy, If he says PASS that's good enough for me!

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    13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Everyone knows everyone up bush mate, and it's who you know also. Doesn't mean I mingle with them on a social basis.

    Very different environment to the big city lights down your way.

     

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    1 hour ago, picket fence said:

    Dazzle knows his footy, If he says PASS that's good enough for me!

    I think you missed the humour in that.

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    id rather take a punt on Harley Benell. Which we should seriously do.. we are a safe club and how has that worked out for us lately. 

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    3 hours ago, Demon3 said:

    id rather take a punt on Harley Benell. Which we should seriously do.. we are a safe club and how has that worked out for us lately. 

    This is a tired cliche that your are using just because you want to take this particular punt. But your argument is plainly wrong.

    We took a punt on Luke Molan. We took a punt on Aaron Davey. We took a punt on Liam Jurrah. We took a punt on Michael Newton. We took a punt on James Frawley. We took a punt on James Strauss. We took a punt on Neville Jetta. We took a punt on Jordan Gysberts.  We took a punt on Jack Fitzpatrick. We took a punt on Lucas Cook. We took a punt on Jeremy Howe. We took a punt on the 16 year old from WA, Jesse Hogan. We took a punt on Jayden Hunt. We took a punt on Neville Jetta, again. We took a punt on Aaron Vandenberg. We took a punt on Clayton Oliver. We took a punt on Sam Wiedeman. We took a punt on Bayley Fritsch. We took a punt on Oskar Baker. We took a punt on Toby Bedford.

    There are varying levels of risk taken from with those players (both in terms of the player and the cost of the risk), as there are varying levels of potential reward from taking them. It’s an interesting list that has a lot of wins and a lot of losses. Every club will have a similar list. 

    All clubs take punts. But they need to be calculated punts where the risk is worth the reward, and the rewards will be different for different clubs as will the risks. The Bennell punt is astronomically high risk for a previously injury prone player who then became even more injury prone with a recurring injury, combined with his poor preparation reducing his likelihood of ever getting over injuries .... and also has played 2 games in 3 years. For those risks he’d need to be Haydn Bunton to justify it. 

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    34 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

     

    All clubs take punts. But they need to be calculated punts where the risk is worth the reward, and the rewards will be different for different clubs as will the risks. The Bennell punt is astronomically high risk for a previously injury prone player who then became even more injury prone with a recurring injury, combined with his poor preparation reducing his likelihood of ever getting over injuries .... and also has played 2 games in 3 years. For those risks he’d need to be Haydn Bunton to justify it. 

    So you're saying we should consider taking the punt on Harley....

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    9 minutes ago, binman said:

    So you're saying we should consider taking the punt on Harley....

    Yes. But not for long!

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    44 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

     

    This is a tired cliche that your are using just because you want to take this particular punt. But your argument is plainly wrong.

    We took a punt on Luke Molan. We took a punt on Aaron Davey. We took a punt on Liam Jurrah. We took a punt on Michael Newton. We took a punt on James Frawley. We took a punt on James Strauss. We took a punt on Neville Jetta. We took a punt on Jordan Gysberts.  We took a punt on Jack Fitzpatrick. We took a punt on Lucas Cook. We took a punt on Jeremy Howe. We took a punt on the 16 year old from WA, Jesse Hogan. We took a punt on Jayden Hunt. We took a punt on Neville Jetta, again. We took a punt on Aaron Vandenberg. We took a punt on Clayton Oliver. We took a punt on Sam Wiedeman. We took a punt on Bayley Fritsch. We took a punt on Oskar Baker. We took a punt on Toby Bedford.

     

    Axis by the time i read all that i was super tired myself!

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    What's he like as a footballer, as opposed to off field?

    Think I'd rather Harley Bennell.

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    Do it. Has things we need, will likely get him for free and we need to take a few 'risks' to break the cycle.

     

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    If the off field is manageable, I'd say yes, as he has speed and can deliver off the HBF and will be cheap.

    I think Jetta and Hibberd are fading.

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    Can he play?

    Does he make us a better side?

     

    To be honest, I'd happily suffer the West Coast industrial deafness to all things bad if it made us a Premiership side.

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    He adds speed and dash on the outside and really likes to take the game on.

    His kicking really leaves a lot to be desired at times.

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    1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    He adds speed and dash on the outside and really likes to take the game on.

    His kicking really leaves a lot to be desired at times.

    If I recall correctly this bloke not only can't hit a target he'd struggle to hit a cow's arze with a banjo.

    Sounds like an ideal Frosty replacement

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    Just now, Go the Biff said:

    If I recall correctly this bloke not only can't hit a target he'd struggle to hit a cow's arze with a banjo.

    Sounds like an ideal Frosty replacement

    The times I saw him he was like a deer in the headlights and sprayed them. 

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    High risk and maybe high reward. Throw him a lifeline and trust that a last shot in the big time will keep him on the straight and narrow.  Would come at a bargain basement price.

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    8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    He adds speed and dash on the outside and really likes to take the game on.

    His kicking really leaves a lot to be desired at times.

    Didn't you have strong feelings on us not picking him up

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    Can’t kick.

    But if I think about this, is there a chance that we pick him up for peanuts to play as a pressure forward? Is genuinely quick and may benefit from a less complicated role.

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    1 minute ago, Deefiant said:

    Didn't you have strong feelings on us not picking him up

    Yes. Loose unit off field. I did also say that I feel like we do need to be bold and take a risk with some of our recruiting as i felt we have just played it safe.

    Murray offers exactly what we are crying out for (minus the [censored] footskills). I do know for a fact also that he has been training extremely hard off field and has hired a pretty well renown personal trainer who has really put him through a rigorous program. So it seems like he is very determined to make it back. So I cannot question his attitude. 

    But yes his off field antics in the past were quite erratic. 

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