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Willie Rioli Suspended for 2 years

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THC Retention Time
  • Infrequent (less than twice/week) Smoking: When screening assays of 50 ng/mL or greater are used, urine samples will generally be positive for 1-3 days.
  • Regular (several times per week) Smoking: May result in urine specimens testing positive for 7-21 days.
  • Chronic (daily) Smoking: An individual who smokes marijuana daily for prolonged periods of time can test positive for 30 days or longer.

Just a hunch but it wouldn't shock me if Willie was more towards the regular than infrequent user.

I still think he's an idiot not a drug cheat and therefore should get the punishment for an idiot and not the punishment for a drug cheat. Dodging the test now appears more sinister - as he had something to hide, but also less sinister as all he was hiding was some weed.

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    1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I understand this was a seperate test but it makes the Eagles defence of ‘he only tampered with the sample because he couldn’t urinate and was frustrated’ look very flimsy. 

    Clubs, players and player managers never lie Ethan.  Wash your mouth out sir!

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    9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    But as someone posted it can stay in system for up to a month. Therefore when he tampered with the sample he may have used it a few days before and he was concerned. Then second test a couple of weeks later may still show traces.

    Absolutely that is feasible. THC attaches to fat cells which is why it is very hard to eliminate it - unlike cocaine, amphetamines or MDMA which leaves the body within 24 -48 hours. 

    This is also reason some people fail drug driving tests for THC even when they are not driving under the influence. I read somewhere that there is some dispute ATM about the efficacy of the test for THC in drug driving buses.

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    11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    But as someone posted it can stay in system for up to a month. Therefore when he tampered with the sample he may have used it a few days before and he was concerned. Then second test a couple of weeks later may still show traces.

    that's a big maybe............and we don't know to what sensitivities they test for

    and if that was typical you would expect there to be a lot more players being picked up on game day

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    47 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    not only separate but 2 weeks after gatorgate and on a game day (+ve for cannabis)

    what was he thinking, after the first episode?

    People who are taking and playing for an arrogant club with history probably don't think too much at all DC.  Cousins a great example.  Thumbed his nose at the entire set up throughout most of his career.

    The Meth has massive form and still going it would seem.

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    maybe, but i don't think methcoast are on their own either

    9 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    People who are taking and playing for an arrogant club with history probably don't think too much at all DC.  Cousins a great example.  Thumbed his nose at the entire set up throughout most of his career.

    The Meth has massive form and still going it would seem.

     

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    23 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Just a hunch but it wouldn't shock me if Willie was more towards the regular than infrequent user.

    I still think he's an idiot not a drug cheat and therefore should get the punishment for an idiot and not the punishment for a drug cheat. Dodging the test now appears more sinister - as he had something to hide, but also less sinister as all he was hiding was some weed.

    I tend to agree. But he is a complete fool. 

    You just do not pull cones during the AFL Season. There is no way he would not have known this

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    I doubt we will ever see Willie in the AFL again sadly.

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    What I find interesting, as I understand it, the AFL don’t name a player until their second strike? Would suggest that Rioli has tested positive once already.

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    21 minutes ago, Males said:

    What I find interesting, as I understand it, the AFL don’t name a player until their second strike? Would suggest that Rioli has tested positive once already.

    Yep named after two strikes, but I’m not sure if the policy differs between game-day and non game-day tests.

    As an aside, if they claim ‘mental health’ issues then they’re not named publicly after the second strike. Off the top of my head I believe Tuck is the only other player to be named publicly, please someone correct me if I’m wrong. 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

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    3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Yep, but I’m not sure if the policy differs between game-day and non game-day tests.

    Game day testing comes under the ASADA code, and canibus is prohibited under ASADA code only on game day, which is why it was released. It may not seem like it, but a small dose can help with calming nerves while still maintaining brain function.

    Had he been found positive under the AFL illicit drugs policy, the AFL would have brushed it under the carpet like they do with most cases. Nothing to see here!

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    27 minutes ago, Males said:

    What I find interesting, as I understand it, the AFL don’t name a player until their second strike? Would suggest that Rioli has tested positive once already.

    being game day it is regarded as a ped rather than an illicit

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    Game day hey, I wonder if Willie packs some munchies for half time.

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    15 minutes ago, Emerald said:

    Game day hey, I wonder if Willie packs some munchies for half time.

    Half-time munchies? It’s seems just a blink of the eye from when quartered oranges were the cutting edge of sports science.

    like collars on jumpers;; bring them back.

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    1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Yep named after two strikes, but I’m not sure if the policy differs between game-day and non game-day tests.

    As an aside, if they claim ‘mental health’ issues then they’re not named publicly after the second strike. Off the top of my head I believe Tuck is the only other player to be named publicly, please someone correct me if I’m wrong. 

    There's been a couple of stars who mysteriously had 8 week hammy injuries out of nowhere

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    Why are the afl testing for cannabis? The opposite of performance enhancing. 

    To lose you career over smoking a joint seems insane. 

    I know he was dumb to it but punishment seems too much 

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    19 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    Why are the afl testing for cannabis? The opposite of performance enhancing. 

    To lose you career over smoking a joint seems insane. 

    I know he was dumb to it but punishment seems too much 

    Nothing to do with the AFL, all ASADA. Considered a PED when in competition due to reasons already posted in this thread.

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    10 hours ago, AshleyH30 said:

    Well... This narrative just changed. I'm sure the West Coast PR Spin Department are going into overload at the moment trying to figure out how to fix this.

     

    9 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    They’ll blame ASADA for putting him under stress after charging him with tampering with a sample, ‘he smoked a bong or two to de-stress’.

    Langdon on 6pr tonight playing the party line, pushing the recreational drug thing, stating Rioli should get no more than 12 months

    FFS whatever way you look at it he's a drug cheat

    a) Tampered with a test, trying to cheat the system

    b) on a separate occasion tested positive to a band substance on game day

    Throw the book at him, unfortunately an example needs to be made, the loopholes are closed the 3 strikes and soft on drugs policy has created this situation 

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    1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

    There's been a couple of stars who mysteriously had 8 week hammy injuries out of nowhere

    And the biggest name in the game who suffered "mental issues" on the eve of the finals a couple years back.

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    28 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

     

    Langdon on 6pr tonight playing the party line, pushing the recreational drug thing, stating Rioli should get no more than 12 months

    FFS whatever way you look at it he's a drug cheat

    a) Tampered with a test, trying to cheat the system

    b) on a separate occasion tested positive to a band substance on game day

    Throw the book at him, unfortunately an example needs to be made, the loopholes are closed the 3 strikes and soft on drugs policy has created this situation 

    Surprise, surprise drugcheat fanboy Slobbo has also pleaded his case.

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-360-host-mark-robinson-launches-astonishing-pro-cannabis-willie-rioli-defence/news-story/3f0158c44ce67597bea68c4ed46b7d6b

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