10 minutes ago, Jack Russell said:

Are serious , he was a change agent - yes he did a great job for three yesrs but dont  make big statments unless you know the details Adminstrtor!!. he's  time was well and truely done and to be honest he was  NOT running the club last year. By the way you should talk to essendon?? BTW As the adminstrator, what are you doing. This website  seems to have a very close relationship with the club or someone in the club who aobviously sets up the podcasts that our players give their time to and I see that your website that was in past years not too flash has become some what fancy and has all this advertising thanks to I suspect to the club's involvment. So let me get this straight - your little comment is designed to inflame and is devious in its intent. Are you for real. As the Admisntrator not only are in breach of yo our own code of conduct but my friend, I think you need to think  before you as the adminstrator make comments or start a thread which is in nature ill intended

Lol. 

20 minutes ago, Jack Russell said:

Seriously - how stupid you all are. Why woudl be believe what some oen writes. One with logic woudl ask how would a jurno know the detsils of a confidential meeting that had nothing to do with what he is writting about. Wake people 

facts are facts, open your eyes. You should probably put some time into your spelling and grammar also.

45 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Pretty easy, aging list, no superstars or few coming through, on field, sale of pokies, revenue comes from?, a coach that is useless, a head of FD that has more lives than a cat, near certainty to lose thousands of members next year..........

we regularly fielded the youngest list of the round.  our core group that are quality are 22-25

Gawn and Clarry are stars and hopefully more will join

stay positive, we will be back

Probably big names players wanting out.

Petraccas manager sat down with the club recently. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wants out.

Brayshaw has looked unhappy all year. Wouldn’t be surprised if he requests a trade to WA to be with his two brothers at WA clubs and his family living over there.

People being defensive need to realize we have had a horrible year, and coming off the back of so much promise has made it even worse. Defend the club all you want, but fact is the club is currently failing. Financially, this year will be a shocker. Onfield, well best not to talk about it and thank god for basket case expansion club saving us from yet another wooden spoon.

1. Up to three starting 22 players are set to demand trades.
2. Club set to announce financial loss, debit to increase.
3. Murmurs of a heated exchange between a powerful club exec and Goodwin following last week's match.

Make no mistake, the Doom Loop is now full circle. Prepare yourselves. Once the finals end, it's all going to break open.

Most important off-season in the club's history imo.

3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Probably big names players wanting out.

Petraccas manager sat down with the club recently. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wants out.

Brayshaw has looked unhappy all year. Wouldn’t be surprised if he requests a trade to WA to be with his two brothers at WA clubs and his family living over there.

People being defensive need to realize we have had a horrible year, and coming off the back of so much promise has made it even worse. Defend the club all you want, but fact is the club is currently failing. Financially, this year will be a shocker. Onfield, well best not to talk about it and thank god for basket case expansion club saving us from yet another wooden spoon.

I believe Petracca's concerns has been what has prompted some heated exchanges between coaching team and the board. Essentially he is unhappy, and the board is pointing the finger at the coaching team.

This all falls down to a disastrous pre-season. Goodwin and Co. have been the catalyst for this.

You will find this is more about the financial position of the club rather that a playing perspective.

Just now, drdrake said:

You will find this is more about the financial position of the club rather that a playing perspective.

Would our financial situation be as dire if not for the playing performance?

4 minutes ago, drdrake said:

You will find this is more about the financial position of the club rather that a playing perspective.

Of course it is. Lets say rumours of players wanting out are true they are not going to learn that at meeting with the AFL.

They might however learn that the AFL is not predisposed to giving us any financial help, which is no doubt what we are asking for. 

7 minutes ago, praha said:

1.  
2. Murmurs of a heated exchange between a powerful club exec and Goodwin following last week's match.

 

Good. I hope it is still being played out

Shape up or leave...

12 minutes ago, praha said:

1. Up to three starting 22 players are set to demand trades.
2. Club set to announce financial loss, debit to increase.
3. Murmurs of a heated exchange between a powerful club exec and Goodwin following last week's match.

Make no mistake, the Doom Loop is now full circle. Prepare yourselves. Once the finals end, it's all going to break open.

Most important off-season in the club's history imo.

You're dead keen on the club is in crisis narrative aren't you Praha.

And dead keen of helping drive it too i might add. 

Edited August 30, 20195 yr by binman

14 minutes ago, praha said:

1. Up to three starting 22 players are set to demand trades.
2. Club set to announce financial loss, debit to increase.
3. Murmurs of a heated exchange between a powerful club exec and Goodwin following last week's match.

Make no mistake, the Doom Loop is now full circle. Prepare yourselves. Once the finals end, it's all going to break open.

Most important off-season in the club's history imo.

please state if any of the above is fact as it is written as such (aside from the murmurs bit)

A club in turmoil on and off the field. 

“Please be patient as we return to normal programming.”

21 minutes ago, praha said:

1. Up to three starting 22 players are set to demand trades.
2. Club set to announce financial loss, debit to increase.
3. Murmurs of a heated exchange between a powerful club exec and Goodwin following last week's match.

Make no mistake, the Doom Loop is now full circle. Prepare yourselves. Once the finals end, it's all going to break open.

Most important off-season in the club's history imo.

And on this, so what? 

1.  Lets see what happens. Might go the same way as the so called 'big' announcement that was supposed to happen last Sunday that you jumped all over. But lets say it is true we don't want the tail wagging the dog and to be honest there are only 4 or 5 best 22 that i woud be shattered to lose. In any case we have most of our best 22 under contract and i suspect might be  looking to trade some anyway (eg Brayshaw, Hunt)
2. Der. No sheet sherlock
3. Stuff happens in a year like the one we have had in a very emotional environment like footy clubs

The Doom Loop? Most important off-season in the club's history? hyperbole much. What a load of over the top histrionics. 

The Doom loop is good name for death metal band by the way.

Edited August 30, 20195 yr by binman

2 minutes ago, binman said:

And on this, so what? 

1.  Lets see what happens. But lets say it is true we don't want the tail wagging the dog and to be honest there are only 4 or 5 best 22 that i woud be shattered to lose. In any case we have most of our best 22 under contract and i suspect might be  looking to trade some anyway (eg Brayshaw, Hunt)
2. Der. No sheet sherlock
3. [censored] happens in year like the one we have had in a very emotional environment like footy clubs

The Doom Loop? Most important off-season in the club's history? hyperbole much. What a load of over the top histrionics. 

Agree. It’s like he’s writing the article for Barrett. 

20 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

People being defensive need to realize we have had a horrible year, and coming off the back of so much promise has made it even worse. Defend the club all you want, but fact is the club is currently failing. Financially, this year will be a shocker. Onfield, well best not to talk about it and thank god for basket case expansion club saving us from yet another wooden spoon.

Succinct and accurate comment. Post bye there was an air of desperation around the club. Sure there were more injuries but there was just zero improvement.

People underestimate what the club had budgeted to receive in those last three MCG matches which were simply disastrous. They would have also been budgeting for a slight increase in sponsorship and at least 10% increase in membership numbers in 2020. Both areas are likely to see a drop.

Our request to the AFL would have been for money so we would have painted a bleak picture.

I can see that the doomsayers have leached onto this as actual fact. The fact that I've never trusted most of Damien's articles, and that the line is so vague that it could mean absolutely anything, makes it reek of someone hoping "that the dart has hit the board" if anything does happen.

I'll wait for more concrete evidence, but I believe this is more to do with the club financially than the playing list.

21 minutes ago, praha said:

I believe Petracca's concerns has been what has prompted some heated exchanges between coaching team and the board. Essentially he is unhappy, and the board is pointing the finger at the coaching team.

This all falls down to a disastrous pre-season. Goodwin and Co. have been the catalyst for this.

I don't buy this. Petracca's actions on the field are not the actions of a disgruntled player. He's vocal, team oriented and has played his role beautifully. I'd be staggered if he requested a trade.

14 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I don't buy this. Petracca's actions on the field are not the actions of a disgruntled player. He's vocal, team oriented and has played his role beautifully. I'd be staggered if he requested a trade.

It would be pure frustration. Five years in or thereabouts and you find yourself in a team that goes dramatically backwards big time with a coach who just doesn't have the answers.

Player loyalty disappeared years ago. He wants a successful football career. Can he get it at MFC. I don't know and I am sure he and other players are wondering the same thing.

Edited August 30, 20195 yr by Diamond_Jim

20 minutes ago, praha said:

Would our financial situation be as dire if not for the playing performance?

52,000 members, up nearly 6000 mich would be 1.5mil additition revenue.  I'm all for selling off the Pokie venues as long as we have a business plan to replace the revenue we generate from these venues.  You take that out and it is a fair whack.

Players wanting out lets start with O McDonald he will definitely want out he is behind May, Lever, Frost and Hore, add in Stretch and JKH blokes that think they deserved more opportunity, even Hunt, you will always have players that may be considered fringe best 22 looking to get out.

Brayshaw is one that I don't know what went on with him in 2019.  Was out on the wing a lot , last few games down back to get a touch and I rate him as our best center clearance player.

No question the club has a massive 12 months facing them, we know Peter Jackson wasn't happy in the why the board appointed Pert, we haven't really seen our heard from Pert at all this season.  The Footy manager was dead keen on the CEO role, that is going to cause friction.

One thing is for sure we just can't get it wrong again.

Whatever the case, I love the use of the lazy words "up to" which is so common these days.   When you don't know, pick a number and say "up to" as in "Up to 3 starting players".  It can can mean 0,1,2 or 3 so you are safe as long as there are not 4 or more.

Tracc just wants more midfield time, and he seemed to get a fair bit last Saturday. Reckon Burgess will have him in run all day shape by JLT.

Amazing though that players would want out after one bad year.

2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Tracc just wants more midfield time, and he seemed to get a fair bit last Saturday. Reckon Burgess will have him in run all day shape by JLT.

Amazing though that players would want out after one bad year.

I agree. Either the players are that fickle, or they're being chased with more coin. As we've seen with Richmond, things can turn around in 1 preseason after a bad year.

On the money Binman! 

DB is a [censored]. 

Financial loss is certain. Low crowds late in the year would have been very costly. However, the 52k members shattered last years record so it's not doom and gloom. 

We won't have a big drop off in membership next year. It's easier to resign as a member than decline. 

As for players potentially wanting out, fine. It just presents another opportunity to improve our list, whether it be by draft picks or players. 

Credit to the club, they've acknowledged theres been a disaster but have taken steps. New director of coaching, new fitness coach and a gun under 23 year old player coming in already not even 7 days after the final game. 

Hold the course! 

50 minutes ago, praha said:

1. Up to three starting 22 players are set to demand trades.
2. Club set to announce financial loss, debit to increase.
3. Murmurs of a heated exchange between a powerful club exec and Goodwin following last week's match.

Make no mistake, the Doom Loop is now full circle. Prepare yourselves. Once the finals end, it's all going to break open.

Most important off-season in the club's history imo.

We have one of those?