39 minutes ago, defuture15 said:

If we are down for just this year, we need it to count.

100% this year we have to nail using this pick 3 whether it's utilising for bargaining ability or picking up an absolute gun in the draft.

I wasn't against splitting our pick with the Tyson/Salem combo as it served a purpose at the time, Tyson came into the team and made an immediate impact, Salem's form has been patchy but there are enough positive attributes he has to contribute to the team. We needed something at that time that a raw rookie wasn't going to give us.

This time is different though, and we can't waste the opportunity that this awful year has provided us.

9 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

Thanks. Inconsistency by foot doesn't sound great

Not ideal, but kicking efficiency and pace seem to be a trade off in the AFL. Its rare to find a player that has both. 

34 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

How good is Caldwell? I don’t know anything about him. Is he quick, good foot skills?

He’s basically Dylan Shiel with a better kick. I rate him massively and would gladly give up a top 10 pick for him. We should be pushing to get him. Potentially better than any we have bar Oliver IMO

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

We should push to trade our pick 3 for their pick 6 and Caldwell.

If we pulled that off, we’d be trading in a future gun midfielder who can play both inside and outside (plays best outside) and draft another elite talent with pick 6 such as Ash, Flanders, Serong etc.

Make it happen Dees!

I like the Idea, but I think they would want more. Next years 2nd rounder maybe?

Is Caldwell name actually been mentioned by anyone from the media? Or are we just pipe dreaming.

Caldwell would be a fantastic get. Huge talent who the Giants rated on par with Dylan Shiel on talent alone. 

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Is Caldwell name actually been mentioned by anyone from the media? Or are we just pipe dreaming.

Caldwell would be a fantastic get. Huge talent who the Giants rated on par with Dylan Shiel on talent alone. 

if the giants get pick 3, and the suns dont go for Green, which they won't, i think they can grab someone else then dont have to use a pick until another club puts his name up.  they said on SEN this is why they wanted pick 6 from saints. they'll get the gun for bugger all and a top 3 player as well. we should bend them over if they want pick3.

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Is Caldwell name actually been mentioned by anyone from the media? Or are we just pipe dreaming.

Caldwell would be a fantastic get. Huge talent who the Giants rated on par with Dylan Shiel on talent alone. 

There hasn't been anything in the media re: Caldwell. General feeling is that Bonar is the one most likely to leave GWS this year.

Caldwell or Taranto, or we go for Green, thanks GWS.

Edited October 10, 20195 yr by A F

Would we consider pick 6 and GWS’ 2020 first round pick for pick 3? 

17 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Would we consider pick 6 and GWS’ 2020 first round pick for pick 3? 

Next year is a weaker draft with a tonne of acandemy and f/s players

Given they'll likely be a top 4 team, the pick probably gets pushed out into the 20s.. no deal for me 

https://7plus.com.au/seven-news-melbourne

This is the link to the channel 7 news, where they talk about the potential swap. It's at about 35 mins in. Not much on the swap, but here it is anyway.

6 hours ago, drdrake said:

Agree with what you are saying but we are really getting him for nothing, he would add to our midfield depth I reckon he and Petracca could rotate as Midfield forward.  You still will get a player at 6 with the attributes we are looking for.  Not sure what else GWS would want to give up for a 3 place upgrade

Is it correct to say we’re getting him for nothing though? We’re swapping out pick 3

Let’s see how creative we can get:

- Pick 3 to GWS for Pick 6 and Caldwell

- Pick 6 to Geelong for Pick 14 and Ratugolea

(Just jumping on the ridiculous trade bandwagon)

Edited October 10, 20195 yr by Gawn's Beard

50 minutes ago, Gawn's Beard said:

Let’s see how creative we can get:

- Pick 3 to GWS for Pick 6 and Caldwell

- Pick 6 to Geelong for Pick 14 and Ratugolea

(Just jumping on the ridiculous trade bandwagon)

Mark Stevens said tonight he could confirm that GWS will be making a big offer to us to get 3.

Many of us have posted 3 for 6, since it got to GWS and a player, preferably Caldwell. That would be a good deal for us as we would probably grab the bloke we want with 6, maybe Weightman. But he said big deal and that could include another pick, maybe 40 which they got as compo for Tomlinson.

We are in the box seat here to do a huge deal.

As for Esava, it won't be happening.  

The Caldwell chat inspired me to learn more about him. First page of Google "Jye Caldwell's frustrating run with injuries has continued". Will fit in perfectly!

Mark Stevens reporting GWS will swap 12, 18 and their first next year for Adelaide's 4.

Would be a big gamble if they then don't swap with us, especially given our history of bidding in players. Pick 4 and something else for 3?

23 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Mark Stevens reporting GWS will swap 12, 18 and their first next year for Adelaide's 4.

Would be a big gamble if they then don't swap with us, especially given our history of bidding in players. Pick 4 and something else for 3?

Good Lord!

33 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Mark Stevens reporting GWS will swap 12, 18 and their first next year for Adelaide's 4.

Would be a big gamble if they then don't swap with us, especially given our history of bidding in players. Pick 4 and something else for 3?

They don't have those picks anymore. They have pick 6 now. 

39 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Mark Stevens reporting GWS will swap 12, 18 and their first next year for Adelaide's 4.

Would be a big gamble if they then don't swap with us, especially given our history of bidding in players. Pick 4 and something else for 3?

Didn't they swap those picks yesterday?

Barrett: The Dees have picks 3 and 22, can they get both Brad Hill and Ed Langdon out of the Dockers with those picks? LISTEN: https://t.co/y0GSLLkU3o WATCH: https://t.co/QdiGlJy8Ir #AFLTrade

What u reckon guys....

8 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Barrett: The Dees have picks 3 and 22, can they get both Brad Hill and Ed Langdon out of the Dockers with those picks? LISTEN: https://t.co/y0GSLLkU3o WATCH: https://t.co/QdiGlJy8Ir #AFLTrade

What u reckon guys....

Would love to, but doubt Hill is willing to take a $300,000 PA pay cut. Also, if we could get Pick 6 and GWS Hill, that could entice Brad more with the lure of playing with family still.

Edit: I don't think we'll be getting the Hill from GWS, but one can dream.

Edited October 10, 20195 yr by AshleyH30

10 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Barrett: The Dees have picks 3 and 22, can they get both Brad Hill and Ed Langdon out of the Dockers with those picks? LISTEN: https://t.co/y0GSLLkU3o WATCH: https://t.co/QdiGlJy8Ir #AFLTrade

What u reckon guys....

I was thinking about whether we could enter the conversation with Hill given the Saints have traded their first pick down. Would be more down to whether we can/want to try to get Hill through our door. 

12 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Barrett: The Dees have picks 3 and 22, can they get both Brad Hill and Ed Langdon out of the Dockers with those picks? LISTEN: https://t.co/y0GSLLkU3o WATCH: https://t.co/QdiGlJy8Ir #AFLTrade

What u reckon guys....

That would be a massive get. But I don’t think he is worth the 900k per season.

2 minutes ago, Pates said:

I was thinking about whether we could enter the conversation with Hill given the Saints have traded their first pick down. Would be more down to whether we can/want to try to get Hill through our door. 

I know it also comes down to player/manager but i think a [censored] off Bell (with last night's GWS swap slap) might be VERY happy to do the double....and foot a small part of the bill!!

 

1 minute ago, Frustrated Demon said:

That would be a massive get. But I don’t think he is worth the 900k per season.

See above FD

8 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

I know it also comes down to player/manager but i think a [censored] off Bell (with last night's GWS swap slap) might be VERY happy to do the double....and foot a small part of the bill!!

 

See above FD

At the end of the day though he’s got to want to come to us, even if Bell was annoyed at the Saints. And to be fair they tried to be really greedy with Hill and the Saints called their bluff to keep going with other trades, I actually admire the Saints for doing that. What would get the deal done for us?