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Ben King

John Demonic
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8 hours ago, Redleg said:

How do we know GC won't take Anderson?

Rowell is a smaller Gus. 

I reckon they'll feel Rowell is a somewhat safer option.

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    So what's the goss. Are the AFL going to give GCS PP1 at #2 or is Anderson a chance? I'd love to get King.

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    5 hours ago, A F said:

    So what's the goss. Are the AFL going to give GCS PP1 at #2 or is Anderson a chance? I'd love to get King.

    gc17 will be gifted every advantage imaginable

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    On 8/13/2019 at 3:06 AM, John Demonic said:

    "According to Caroline Wilson, young forward Ben King could depart the Gold Coast Suns as soon as this season"

    What would you trade to bring him in? Would we trade pick 3 for him? A 2020 1st round pick?

    You can be guaranteed what ever the FD end up doing will be short sighted and with the hindsight of history will end up being the opposite of what we should have done aka the Dom Tyson Josh Kelly  maneuver.

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    If the AFL let this kid walk away from GC they should close up shop on the Sunshine coast. What a disgrace. 

    (mind you it would be some nice justice for the whole $cully era drama if he came to us).

    The kid can play.

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    I'd be happy to give up our first rounder (even if it is Anderson) for him. He's a kid who is displaying unbelievable potential.

    We shouldn't kid ourselves, Hogan out was a massive blow. King in would go a long way to alleviating that (even if he takes a few more years to really get going).

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    6 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

    I'd be happy to give up our first rounder (even if it is Anderson) for him. He's a kid who is displaying unbelievable potential.

    We shouldn't kid ourselves, Hogan out was a massive blow. King in would go a long way to alleviating that (even if he takes a few more years to really get going).

    Potential, you say?

    That sounds like something we can help him fail to deliver on!

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    15 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    Potential, you say?

    That sounds like something we can help him fail to deliver on!

    i was very careful not to use the dreaded 'P' word wwsw!

    Edited by Demon Disciple

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    If Anderson's as good as some say he is, I wouldn't be disappointed to land him, but getting King would really straighten us up.

    We already have a dominant Gawn feeding to the likes of Oliver, Harmes, Brayshaw, Viney, Petracca and even Salem.

    If we added King to McDonald, Melksham, Hannan, Fritsch, Petracca and a speedy natural crumber, we'd start to have a potent list of forward options.

    Then all we need to a game style that enables connection between midfield and forward. 

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    I just hope we don’t [censored] it up and trade players out that we need and get ones in that won’t help our cause. 

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    13 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I’d prefer we take Anderson and persevere with Weed for now. 

    Agreed. Imo we need quality through the midfield more than a kpf. Our midfield is seriously overrated 

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    I am leaning towards King, if we could get him which I doubt, as it would basically solve the key forward area with Tom.Mac, Weid and Petty and then Trac, Melk and Fritter as the mid size forwards.

    That would mean we could concentrate on getting pace and small goal kicking forwards, with our other draft picks and trades.

    A deal for Langdon would help the pace off the back flank and we could really concentrate on trading/drafting outside run and a couple of young Jeffy's.

    IMO Jeffy is gone and Jetta is slow and nearly gone.

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    Ugh, this topic is making me mildly ill, just thinking about how impossible it is to assess list needs when every part of your list is so far away from what might be their realistic form.

    If McDonald/Weideman 2018 is the 'normal', then Anderson for sure. If Mcdonald/Weideman 2019 is normal then absolutely go after King.

    Same thoughts in reverse for 'if Brayshaw/Oliver/Viney' best vs worst.

    And defence, are we going to write down the value of our two big defender trades and go for yet another (such as the frankly worrying Keath rumours?), or plan for the better result of Lever & May getting preseasons and some form and structure together? Are Michael Hibberd and Neville Jetta still top-quality defenders who have had poor run lately, or are they both sliding towards retirement at barely 30?

    It even makes the later draft selections a challenge - what do we make of the likes of Hunt, Hannan, Kolodjashnij, Vandenberg, Nibbler, Smith, the Wagners and even Lockhart? All of them and more are hugely variable prospects, whether by injury issues or the sheer fluctuation from 'frustrating but useful roleplayers' right to pointless list-clogging depending on which season, moment or mood your happen to observe them.

    I do not envy Jason Taylor as he tries to organise a draft strategy out of this mess.

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    I was the one who initiated the Ben King thought train back in the trade+draft thread.

    I still think if we lose Anderson, aka pick 2 gets pushed back to pick 3 due to GC gaining a PP st start of first round, then we attempt to trade pick 3 directly for King. We’d get a decade out of him as a quality KPF. It’s fill one of our biggest holes.

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    I’m hearing whispers Ben King will seek a trade back to Victoria and if he doesn’t, he’ll be staying put. You heard it here first. #ETthetradebreaker #Ihearwhispers.

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

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    11 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I’m hearing whispers Ben King will seek a trade back to Victoria and if he doesn’t, he’ll be staying put. You heard it here first. #ETthetradebreaker #Ihearwhispers.

    Thanks for clearing that up?

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    Michael Warner just said saints heavily into Ben King.

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    1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    I’m hearing whispers Ben King will seek a trade back to Victoria and if he doesn’t, he’ll be staying put. You heard it here first. #ETthetradebreaker #Ihearwhispers.

     

    3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Michael Warner just said saints heavily into Ben King.

    He's a bit late on that news 'dazzle'...

    ...but seriously the Saints have been into him since he was drafted & probably before.

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    5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Michael Warner just said saints heavily into Ben King.

    Too bad we have a pick that trumps theirs :(

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    Everyone forgetting about Petty's impact, He's going to be a great forward, why do we need a to use a pick on a forward? we need small forwards and midfield pace.

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    We shouldn’t be Trading Pick 2.

    Pick 3 Yes or Yes to 2020 first rounder and player.

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    12 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

    Everyone forgetting about Petty's impact, He's going to be a great forward, why do we need a to use a pick on a forward? 

    Needs to work on his goal kicking from the 40 metre plus range if he's to make it as a forward.

    Can certainly take a contested mark though which is a great sign.

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