POSTGAME: Rd16 vs Carlton

[Demon Dynasty 17,149]

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

So the kick in strategy appeared to be kick it to pruess at every opportunity yet rarely did we have a crumber on the ground next to him. Carlton sharked the ball on a dozen occasions.

Man we just play dumb football at times.

There were players around Pruess on some occasions but too many got sucked to the skinny side for some forsaken reason.  When the ball spilled inside the Blues easily outnumbered us and waltzed it inside 50 again.

This is either a coaching issue or a player IQ issue for those who keep mucking up these basic structures on set plays.  Or a combo.  Leadership also.  Who is telling these guys "dont get sucked to the skinny...stay fat of your opponent!!"???

Edited July 7, 2019 by Rusty Nails

[Nasher 33,640]

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

[Jaded No More 68,976]

10 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

To be fair I thought the game was garbage viewing from minute one to minute one twenty. Our skills are so poor, as is our decision making and defensive running. The defensive running you can forgive with 3 on the bench, but what was the excuse in the first quarter? 

We scrapped an ugly win with limited rotations against a bottom feeder missing their top 3 players. I am deeply thrilled to remain at 16th with yet another 3 injuries to add to the mix. 

One of the worst quality games of football I’ve seen in a long time. Both teams had horrible patches and while we looked the better team for long periods, our finishing really ruined the enjoyment of good ball movement. 

Not one for the highlight reel. 

Edited July 7, 2019 by Jaded

[Lord Nev 13,512]

9 minutes ago, Nasher said:

But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

Not sure a narrow win against one of the spoon favourites with a caretaker coach (and short on the bench also) correlates to 'expecting greatness' for a team in the top 4 last year. My guess is people have just expected an improvement in skills, structure and game plan, and we didn't see much of that today at all. The fans have a right to still be disappointed in how we performed even though we won.

 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Not sure a narrow win against one of the spoon favourites with a caretaker coach (and short on the bench also) correlates to 'expecting greatness' for a team in the top 4 last year. My guess is people have just expected an improvement in skills, structure and game plan, and we didn't see much of that today at all. The fans have a right to still be disappointed in how we performed even though we won.

 

Very true. They had Kruezer on the bench for 20 and Weitering with a splattered face. They were not full of running either. And they have injuries as big as ours. No Cripps or Curnow is equivalent to no Oliver and TMac (when in form). 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

Very true. They had Kruezer on the bench for 20 and Weitering with a splattered face. They were not full of running either. And they have injuries as big as ours. No Cripps or Curnow is equivalent to no Oliver and TMac (when in form). 

We're also one of the worst last quarter sides in the comp (potentially THE worst, not sure on our rank) so I don't think we can chalk up our last quarter to purely just rotations.

 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

We're also one of the worst last quarter sides in the comp (potentially THE worst, not sure on our rank) so I don't think we can chalk up our last quarter to purely just rotations.

 

Apparently -84 points in last quarters this year according to commentators. I assume it’s due to no fitness base due to a terrible pre season. At least I hope so. 

[Cards13 9,117]

42 minutes ago, olisik said:

Looks like Dazzledavey has gone missing as usual after a win. Only shows up when the dees are down.

Hahaha Hahhaha hello pot, kettle says gday.

[Ron Burgundy 8,588]

19 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

Bloody. Oath! 

We won that thing against all odds.

All Demon haters can get stuffed.

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Apparently -84 points in last quarters this year according to commentators. I assume it’s due to no fitness base due to a terrible pre season. At least I hope so. 

I think that was before today as well.

 

[binman 44,762]

12 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

I'm with you Nasher. Loved it.

Thanks to kayo i watched the game from about 3:45 as i was away. Totally stoked to win. I knew though that when i looked at Demonland the vibe would be generally negative.  I was right.

We were cooked and running up and done on the spot. We could only make 9 rotations in the last. Nine. And our ruck man was completely gassed. Loved his effort but big Preussy is slow and not fit enough to ruck solo all day.

Loved the composure to get a shot on goal after falling behind and love that Hunt slotted it after making 3 critical errors in the preceding 15 minutes. My daughter asked if i thought he would kick it and i said no. Loved the fact he did. 

A win is a win. Our kicking remains a huge issue (hello to those posters who said Friiter covered the loss of Watts in terms of kicking skills) and out injury curse is real. But we won. And i for one will take that.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,050]

2 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

It was a good crowd - loud especially in the last quarter, when Carlton came back into it. That horrible feeling and noise when the opposition is coming back on top of you!

Yes, but a great feeling when the final siren went with us in front.  I get the feeling that Carlton supporters were backing their team to roll us from the get go today, so denying them that makes beating them even more the sweeter.

Not that I'm not getting carried away with this win from our perspective.  For the most part, I have very conflicted feelings about how we played.  We clearly dominanted them for over a half of footy with one rotation down, yet without playing anything like our best game and also missing a tonne of opportunities to put them away much earlier.  But somewhat to Carlton's credit, they wanted to win pretty badly today, moved the ball well and their straight goal kicking kept them in the game.  The real downers of the game were yet more bloody injuries - we just can't seem to take a trick this year.

Was a huge effort for the boys to hang on in the last quarter after being down so many players on the bench for most of the game and the last quarter in particular.  I had a weird moment of part elation, part relief when Hunt slotted that goal in the dying minutes, which was quickly followed by a somewhat hollow feeling of what a realitively meaningless win it was, whilst still being glad that we had won and maintained some level of dignity, compared to the utter shame and despiration I would have felt had we lost. 

Overall, I think the result and the way it came about still shows how far we actually have come compared to seasons gone by, but also typifies what a depressing and a complete sh_t fight this season has been for us.

Edited July 7, 2019 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[monoccular 17,713]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

Here is my prediction for 2019. Carlton will win a flag before we do.

Maybe you should move to Carlton and see if your pessimism is transferrable?

3 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Totally 

Plonk him [Preuss]  at Full Forward and give the defense a question as to who mans him up. Then rotate Max forward occasionally 

especially if Tom's knee turns out as bad as most things we have suffered this season.  Fair dinkum - he finally hit his straps then -- ping :-(((

[—coach— 3,496]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Wow....wow....what a concept...

I take it all back...our coach is a genius

We're a really good team...we are

Can't  wait to see what gems we come up with...

Folks..we fell in against a depleted Carlton...and only just

MEH

My apologies for enjoying the win today, I’ll be sure to be more disappointed with our wins going forward.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 11,050]

6 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm with you Nasher. Loved it.

Thanks to kayo i watched the game from about 3:45 as i was away. Totally stoked to win. I knew though that when i looked at Demonland the vibe would be generally negative.  I was right.

We were cooked and running up and done on the spot. We could only make 9 rotations in the last. Nine. And our ruck man was completely gassed. Loved his effort but big Preussy is slow and not fit enough to ruck solo all day.

Loved the composure to get a shot on goal after falling behind and love that Hunt slotted it after making 3 critical errors in the preceding 15 minutes. My daughter asked if i thought he would kick it and i said no. Loved the fact he did. 

A win is a win. Our kicking remains a huge issue (hello to those posters who said Friiter covered the loss of Watts in terms of kicking skills) and out injury curse is real. But we won. And i for one will take that.

He has still been a bit inconsistent and hasn't had a perfect season by all acounts, but overall, I think the reemergence of Jayden Hunt has been one of the real positives to come out of this season.  Was great for him (and the team) to get that little moment in the sun after such a trying year (couple of years for Hunt).

Hopefully it goes to show how fortunes can change in the space of a year.  Really hoping others and the team in general can follow in Hunt's footsteps next year and mount a huge resurgence.

[Diamond_Jim 12,739]

36 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

so which side is more likely to get the membership bump out of today?

At the end of the day that was the only thing riding on this game.

[markc 975]

1 hour ago, deeflog said:

The Carlton w@nker sitting next to me today pleaded with the umpires and then argued with everyone around us that when the ball stopped on the goal line and the 2 players dived at the ball that it had to be kicking in danger against whoever our player was as he went with his foot and the blues player went with his hand

im guessing this was in the last quarter and the player was Brayshaw , I am wondered why  a score review wasn't  asked for, the commentators suggested Brayshaw claimed a goal ?? anyone see this ?  was it or wasn't it ? 

 

[Demon17 5,237]

4 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I'm happy with the win, even if most on here will be negative. 3 down on the bench for the whole last quarter and we fought out a win. Wasn't pretty, but too show that heart says something about the group

Was at the game.  Team was out on its feet. 

Kudos to getting over the line.

Oliver was nothing short of heroic 

[Demon17 5,237]

53 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

Nice one. 

 

[binman 44,762]

That win is a metaphor for this year in some ways, particularly in terms of supporters not understanding the impact of injury. We were out on our feet with 2 players in Hore and Petty out for all of the second half and TMac out from halfway through the third.

This interview with Hunt is interesting in terms of understanding the impact of not being able to rotate players, both physically but also in terms of having to move players around the ground to get a chop out (something Goody noted in his presser eg having to move Lewis off Murphy). He notes he had to play wing for that last quarter and Jones didn't come off for the second half, despite playing high half back which Hunty says is tough position. 

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-07-07/hunt-enjoys-final-quarter-heroics

But hey what would he know

[chookrat 4,268]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Wow....wow....what a concept...

I take it all back...our coach is a genius

We're a really good team...we are

Can't  wait to see what gems we come up with...

Folks..we fell in against a depleted Carlton...and only just

MEH

Lighten up bro. If you listened to what Goodwin said re Preuss is that he's been playing VFL to develop parts of his game whoch we saw today and that the plan is to play both Gawn and Preuss in the same side. 

Carlton played well and were very dangerous in the third when we managed to kick 7 goals. While we're not at our best it's a win against a side that is playing well in an even competition when we had onpy one on the bench. 

[olisik 4,060]

47 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Hahaha Hahhaha hello pot, kettle says gday.

In the great words of Mark Neeld. ‘It is what it is’. Nowhere to be seen after a gutsy win.

[old dee 24,072]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I agree they do have a better list than given credit for. But they will not win a flag with this list you can take that to the bank. Carlton are two decades into 5 decades of misery. Well that's my hope anyway.

And we are DR.?

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

I was so disappointed when Marty was injured, devastated when TMac was injured, after showing such a good return to form and confidence and cheesed off with the commentators openly talking up Carlton's chances of overwhelming Melbourne, and also barracking for them to do so. Why shouldn't we win it with three men down and the rest of the team tiring? Stuff Carlton and their supporters. We've suffered more than they have. Welcome to our world.

[Anti-Saint 245]

What’s better than beating CarlTank by a record 109-pt margin?

defeating the Tankers by 5 points with a goal from a guy who has struggled all season!

Go Dees!

Edited July 7, 2019 by Grapeviney
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