Looking Forward 2020 & Beyond

[old dee 23,788]

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This group of players won’t be doing much until they learn to kick for goal

i cannot believe by Round 9 they are still kicking so badly. 

Last friday should have been over at 3/4 time, but for horrendous kicking for goal

 

Spot on swyl

[old dee 23,788]

3 hours ago, one_demon said:

I have similar concerns with May.  We gave up pick six for a player who may only play for three to five years.

Has not played one yet. This year is a wipe out. I Hope he can start pre season training in better condition and give us a reasonable season in 2020 but I have zero confidence he is doing any more than topping up his Super.

[old dee 23,788]

5 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

I guess that's why he was appointed captain at the Suns...

Like their entire list, he was permitted to be (so-called) lazy at Gold Coast. He'll turn it around.

Looking forward to seeing May and Lever playing together in the 2nd half of the season

May, Lever, Frost, Jetta, Hibberd and Hore. That's a good back 6. 

Being brutally honest the back half are not our major problem. Our biggest problem is our inability to kick goals and none of that lot will kick one goal.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

Being brutally honest the back half are not our major problem. Our biggest problem is our inability to kick goals and none of that lot will kick one goal.

Like the winning goal kicked by Hore vs Suns?

But I get your point, oldy.

[DV8 2,271]

7 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

The concern is the drop off in form of so many of the better players from 2018.

Need to see players such as Brayshaw, Tom Mac and Oliver regain their magic.  

Weideman remains a relative unknown and of course Petracca is the enigma.

The ups so far are relatively small in comparison to the demonstrated downs.

Perhaps the second half of the season will show a little more.

Brayshaw needs to Re-focus and work on his delivery into F50.  Wasting his talents.

Oliver needs to gain some more composure with the ball. hitting more targets.   Too many of his disposals are turn overs to the opposition.  Wasting his talents.

Weideman to get his body right and healthy.

 

Petracca, needs to get a real body spec's form,  to work at,  and at the same time spend his off-season to really work on his kicking... Field-kicking,  and set-shots... 

I would like him to start working now,  on his Non-Preferred side,  kicking and hand-balling.   Developing a stronger non-preferred side, could help him to change his natural side.

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Edited May 20, 2019 by DV8

[Little Goffy 14,524]

I've not let go of 2019 yet, but the thought of a mental reset, the right reviewing of our coaching/conditioning, and (touch wood) a clearing of the injury load, yep, that has me strongly anticipating 2020.

But nevermind, I still think there's a six-game winning streak on the cards going into and after the bye, to reset the whole scene this year.

[DV8 2,271]

6 hours ago, Deehumanizing said:

We paid overs on the Hogan trade. I don't think May will have a long career and may not ever be the key position lockdown defender we were looking for. The reality is that he is not really a key position back but more the intercept marking - rebounding type we have plenty of. May has to compete for that job with Lever, Hore, Frost, Hibberd, Petty, and Kielty. May seems lazy and one dimensional and will struggle to be more than a role player. Our drafting for key position players has been terrible.

 

I think May will replace OMc. 

Lever replace Frosty.

And when they settle in...    I think Petty will come on in leaps,  in games he's required.    I reckon Petty is penciled in to eventually replace May,  when he's at retiring stage.

[old dee 23,788]

32 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I think May will replace OMc. 

Lever replace Frosty.

And when they settle in...    I think Petty will come on in leaps,  in games he's required.    I reckon Petty is penciled in to eventually replace May,  when he's at retiring stage.

For May to replace anyone he has to have his heart in it and there appears to be a bit of evidence he is less than 100% committed. Add he has a serious injury and it is difficult to see him earning much of his salary this year.

[DV8 2,271]

13 minutes ago, old dee said:

For May to replace anyone he has to have his heart in it and there appears to be a bit of evidence he is less than 100% committed. Add he has a serious injury and it is difficult to see him earning much of his salary this year.

I think you believe to much in what your read in papers or in metered out in-house comments.

 

I do not believe May was instructed to come back in a written prepared state of fitness.   IMO, he came back as he thought would be required as he understood it.   I wonder if lack of de-script instructions, was deliberate.

 

Many others came back underdone, and I reckon the club new, or expected we would be slow off the mark with so many pre-season Opps. and the resulting low levels of fitness prep'.

Now,  what wasn't told to us,  was the relationship breakdown May was undergoing...  maybe some how related to the move Sth.?

Mays communication with the supporters was frank and accurate at the start of proceeding with the club...   This suggests some naivety to the requirements,  from the club.

 

So I think,  all-in-all,  May has been  open,  honest,  and forthright with us.

[old dee 23,788]

5 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I think you believe to much in what your read in papers or in metered out in-house comments.

 

I do not believe May was instructed to come back in a written prepared state of fitness.   IMO, he came back as he thought would be required as he understood it.   I wonder if lack of de-script instructions, was deliberate.

 

Many others came back underdone, and I reckon the club new, or expected we would be slow off the mark with so many pre-season Opps. and the resulting low levels of fitness prep'.

Now,  what wasn't told to us,  was the relationship breakdown May was undergoing...  maybe some how related to the move Sth.?

Mays communication with the supporters was frank and accurate at the start of proceeding with the club...   This suggests some naivety to the requirements,  from the club.

 

So I think,  all-in-all,  May has been  open,  honest,  and forthright with us.

If so on that basis it is the club who are the idiots DV8.

[maximum bob 462]

For goodness sake. Let's give some of this virulent May bashing a break. Yeah, he's to blame for our current woes and won't provide anything down the track. 

 

Edited May 20, 2019 by maximum bob
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[spirit of norm smith 16,448]

2019 is now a chance to see what some players can deliver.  Get games into Petty, Hore, Lockhart, Baker, and Weid. 

Plus make sure players truly overcome injuries (Jetta, Vandenburg Jsmith). No need to rush them back.  

[Pennant St Dee 13,172]

8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Love to see a forward line of Mitch Hannan and Jayden Hunt zipping around. 

not to be underestimated dazzle quicker ball movement inside 50 and quicker players at ground level changes the dynamics and options 

[junk 342]

Every year we look forward to something , get disappointed as usual. Couldn't care less for 2020 , cannot stand 6.6.6 format

[markc 975]

9 hours ago, Deehumanizing said:

We paid overs on the Hogan trade. I don't think May will have a long career and may not ever be the key position lockdown defender we were looking for. The reality is that he is not really a key position back but more the intercept marking - rebounding type we have plenty of. May has to compete for that job with Lever, Hore, Frost, Hibberd, Petty, and Kielty. May seems lazy and one dimensional and will struggle to be more than a role player. Our drafting for key position players has been terrible.

 

i think you are completely Wrong on MAY , he is a lockdown one on one player. thats his role in the team , to play on one player and lock them down.  not the zone type like the rest. 

 

[John Demonic 5,792]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

Has not played one yet. This year is a wipe out. I Hope he can start pre season training in better condition and give us a reasonable season in 2020 but I have zero confidence he is doing any more than topping up his Super.

That he hasn't played yet and will unlikely make an impact on our ability to make finals makes the irony very cruel when he would have come for free at the end of this year as a FA and we could've drafted a kid pick 6, if we'd waited.

[Diamond_Jim 12,570]

25 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

That he hasn't played yet and will unlikely make an impact on our ability to make finals makes the irony very cruel when he would have come for free at the end of this year as a FA and we could've drafted a kid pick 6, if we'd waited.

not a May fan but the reality is that Brisbane would have traded him last year unless they were sure to get more under compo this year.

The trade that was lacking was Hogan for what Freo offered. It will never stack up.

Okay who were picks 5 and 6 from last year which were the best we could have got from Freo.

They happen to be Connor Rozee and Ben King

Rozee made his AFL debut in Port Adelaide's upset win over Melbourne in the opening round of the 2019 AFL season^[5]. In round 3, Rozee kicked five goals and had 21 disposals in Port's 17 point loss to the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba, earning him the Rising Star nomination^[6]. Rozee became the youngest Port Adelaide player to kick 5 goals in a match

Ben King... first game against Port last weekend

[old dee 23,788]

55 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

not a May fan but the reality is that Brisbane would have traded him last year unless they were sure to get more under compo this year.

The trade that was lacking was Hogan for what Freo offered. It will never stack up.

Okay who were picks 5 and 6 from last year which were the best we could have got from Freo.

They happen to be Connor Rozee and Ben King

Rozee made his AFL debut in Port Adelaide's upset win over Melbourne in the opening round of the 2019 AFL season^[5]. In round 3, Rozee kicked five goals and had 21 disposals in Port's 17 point loss to the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba, earning him the Rising Star nomination^[6]. Rozee became the youngest Port Adelaide player to kick 5 goals in a match

Ben King... first game against Port last weekend

This is going to go  down in the same vein as our decision to not even interview Dusty Martin.

[P-man 13,366]

Not quite sure why the season is over when we are two games out of the 8 with 14 rounds left to play.

[monoccular 17,426]

On 5/20/2019 at 9:09 AM, Deehumanizing said:

We paid overs on the Hogan trade. I don't think May will have a long career and may not ever be the key position lockdown defender we were looking for. The reality is that he is not really a key position back but more the intercept marking - rebounding type we have plenty of. May has to compete for that job with Lever, Hore, Frost, Hibberd, Petty, and Kielty. May seems lazy and one dimensional and will struggle to be more than a role player. Our drafting for key position players has been terrible.

 

May has yet to prove anything at Melbourne: hope he does but by all accounts he has shown a lack of commitment. 

On 5/20/2019 at 10:48 AM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I'm an optimist and will never go into a match thinking that we can't win, but realistically, finals aren't going to happen this year.

 

.....

ScoMo says “hi”!

Maybe he should come down for a motivational talk and a lesson in self belief?

[Moonshadow 17,676]

3 hours ago, P-man said:

Not quite sure why the season is over when we are two games out of the 8 with 14 rounds left to play.

2 wins (As opposed to games) and a mere matter of 31%

[DV8 2,271]

33 minutes ago, monoccular said:

May has yet to prove anything at Melbourne: hope he does but by all accounts he has shown a lack of commitment. 

ScoMo says “hi”!

Maybe he should come down for a motivational talk and a lesson in self belief?

Un-Sociable  SchmO...

 

See,  un-sociable wins again. over Fair.

[P-man 13,366]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

2 wins (As opposed to games) and a mere matter of 31%

Still premature. Granted we’re not in a great spot but the season is still very much alive if we can get some soldiers back and come home with a tailwind.

[Smokey 4,389]

On 5/20/2019 at 8:20 PM, junk said:

Every year we look forward to something , get disappointed as usual. Couldn't care less for 2020 , cannot stand 6.6.6 format

Yet here you are. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

A win this week vs GWS changes the course of the season.

Port or Freo will likely be clinging to 8th (5-5) and we’ll be 4-6 and right in this thing.

Its been a terrible start to the season but a win this week will largely make up for it.

Edited May 21, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell