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44 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

Watching the saints under pressure they handball to a stationary guy 4 feet away...we just need to pressure them

funny, as that's what we do a lot of as well

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    46 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

    Watching the saints under pressure they handball to a stationary guy 4 feet away...we just need to pressure them

    The stationary player is the get and give transition. Ideally he has it for next to no time and passes it to an outside runner.

    We often lack this very runner.

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    The way to overcome their run and spread is to overwhelmingly win the contested ball and pressure their mids through guys like Harmes and Stretch playing run-with roles (Gresham and Ross)

    Our backs will get slaughtered if the Saints' outside mids take control.

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    23 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    The way to overcome their run and spread is to overwhelmingly win the contested ball and pressure their mids through guys like Harmes and Stretch playing run-with roles (Gresham and Ross)

    Our backs will get slaughtered if the Saints' outside mids take control.

    This strategy ... this chaos style is, to me ,very reminiscent of "whack the gopher". I.e it's manic . And you have to just keep keeping at it. 

    Nearly impossible to keep it up all game...and if you do...the toll is very high.

    I actually believe what we're seeing at the start of this season is the price paid for our 'good' run at the back end of last season.

    We need to learn and master tempo...or we'll fry ourselves.

     

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    1 hour ago, one_demon said:

    They're going to get their hands on the ball

    Hawks were in control before they ran out of legs due to being 2 men down.

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    St Kilda are hopeless.

    If they win so be it.  It just shows where we're at in this particular season.

    Only a flag interests me.  I couldn't give a continental about making up the numbers.  If our preseason surgeries and interruptions (that we supposedly never had) mean we're cooked in 2019 it is what it is.

    St Kilda are still [censored] win or lose.

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    We seem to have our appetite for winning back.

    I hope after the Swans win which was bigger than most give it credit for we continue to be hungry for more. It was hreat to see all the boys congratulate each goal scorer in the last quarter and hold their heads high at the final siren. 

    Saints were good today but we will be better and hopefully our season will be on the mend. Preuss will be a big factor. We need him in and I think on a lesser defender than Olir we could see him do some big damage. Tmac and Weid to build on last week as with the midfield and we will be Dees of last year.

    Or the old Melbourne could turn up.

     By God this club keeps us on our toes.

    Edited by leave it to deever

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    1 hour ago, willmoy said:

    What the hell is wrong with Scully, slow and indecisive.

    He kicked 2 and was named in the best so unfortunately I think he is travelling ok. Kent on the other hand has done SFA.

    Edited by chook fowler

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    Any Dees supporter worried about this game needs to give themselves a face-slap. I doubted us last week, but still maintained that we were going to play finals. 

    OK, we wont have anything like our best team on the park. No disrepect to the Saints as i reckon they have finally found their mojo, but we will still beat them in a canter.

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    1 hour ago, one_demon said:

    I don't think we can beat St Kilda's fast, hard running

    1 hour ago, one_demon said:

    I don't think we can beat St Kilda's fast, hard running

    Relax, we've got this. 

     

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    1 hour ago, sisso said:

    If we can’t beat St Kilda just because they have some fast runners we might as well give up now.

    They also have Dean Kent

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    3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    If we don’t win we are officially pretenders 

    Well not pretenders..as such.... it'll just mean we've evolved this style as far as it can go. We'll have found our ceiling.

    We just need to be clever in our football...not so Neanderthal ;)

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    2 minutes ago, ding said:

    Any Dees supporter worried about this game needs to give themselves a face-slap. I doubted us last week, but still maintained that we were going to play finals. 

    OK, we wont have anything like our best team on the park. No disrepect to the Saints as i reckon they have finally found their mojo, but we will still beat them in a canter.

    What a stupid thing to say. This is the typical Melbourne game that we are prone to drop. Saints are in good form, and yes i understand we have just had a win ourselves. But no way is this a walk in the park (no game is this year)

    Hopefully the Sydney win will be the kick start we needed.

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    2 minutes ago, chookrat said:

    They also have Dean Kent

    Knowing our luck he'll do a Kent Kingsley on us.

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    1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    What a stupid thing to say. This is the typical Melbourne game that we are prone to drop. Saints are in good form, and yes i understand we have just had a win ourselves. But no way is this a walk in the park (no game is this year)

    Hopefully the Sydney win will be the kick start we needed.

    ARE YOU CALLING ME STUPID????

    *gets huffy and acts offended......

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    1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

    The level of intensity and application Essendon showed against us was at least double what they showed against St Kilda.

    That was little to do with St Kilda being better than us (which was also true), it was more about how Essendon attacked the contest or generally cared about the game. In the first half of their game, Essendon was non-existent. St Kilda were playing a below-VFL level side. 

    They've beaten a developing young side in GC by 1 point, an Essendon side which played the worst half of footy anyone will play this year whilst struggling to hold them off, and they beat Hawthorn by a kick despite the Hawks having at least 6 injuries and only 2 on the bench for a half. 

    If we're talking their 3-1 record alone, I'm not worried in the slightest.

    It's not their W-L record which is the thing we should be worried about. St Kilda play a style of game which, when they're on, is our achilles heel. They'll use the space on the G, they'll bring pace, and if we leave too much space behind our press then they'll find it easier to score than they have in the opening four rounds.

    This is not going to be easy for us, but St Kilda is not a good side.

    I think Essendon certainly took a step forward between weeks 2 and 3 but a lot of that was because they went from playing the Saints to playing us.

    We took a leap between weeks 3 and 4 not only because of fitness/coaching/effort but because we were playing the Swans instead of the quick bombers. 

    So much of the confidence and run that Essendon had against us came from our lack of pressure. We showed in the second quarter that if we could stick with them a bit and hold them up they started making mistakes. The Saints deserve credit for doing that.

    Again, not saying they are anything special, just in agreement they have traits to challenge us and I think the results against Essendon one week apart should be put down to more than just the Bombers getting it together.

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    15 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    He kicked 2 and was named in the best so unfortunately I think he is travelling ok. Kent on the other hand has done SFA.

    Not entirely true, Kent did manage to kick a set shot out on the full late in the 4th.

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    1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

    The level of intensity and application Essendon showed against us was at least double what they showed against St Kilda.

    That was little to do with St Kilda being better than us (which was also true), it was more about how Essendon attacked the contest or generally cared about the game. In the first half of their game, Essendon was non-existent. St Kilda were playing a below-VFL level side. 

    They've beaten a developing young side in GC by 1 point, an Essendon side which played the worst half of footy anyone will play this year whilst struggling to hold them off, and they beat Hawthorn by a kick despite the Hawks having at least 6 injuries and only 2 on the bench for a half. 

    If we're talking their 3-1 record alone, I'm not worried in the slightest.

    It's not their W-L record which is the thing we should be worried about. St Kilda play a style of game which, when they're on, is our achilles heel. They'll use the space on the G, they'll bring pace, and if we leave too much space behind our press then they'll find it easier to score than they have in the opening four rounds.

    This is not going to be easy for us, but St Kilda is not a good side.

    If we cant defend against St Kilda we will struggle v any team. Im confident we will account for St Kilda and improve some on last week. 

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    Apart from GWS, WCE and Cats, the The remaining 5 spots in the 8 is wide open.  We just have to keep winning.  GC and saints already have the jump on us.

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    1 hour ago, ProDee said:

    St Kilda are hopeless.

    If they win so be it.  It just shows where we're at in this particular season.

    Only a flag interests me.  I couldn't give a continental about making up the numbers.  If our preseason surgeries and interruptions (that we supposedly never had) mean we're cooked in 2019 it is what it is.

    St Kilda are still [censored] win or lose.

    Funny. I have exactly the same feelings.

    I had high hopes for the season but I am surprisingly Zen about us having a bad year. A lot has to go right to win the whole thing. I'm not going to worry too much.

    We should be worried about any team with strong outside run. 

    The Saints should be sh!tting themselves about our contested fire power. They have Ross and Stelle on the inside.

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    2 hours ago, picket fence said:

    SCARED !!!!!!!!!! 

    May never be the same and ankle is prohibiting his pace.

    Also he has not played for a full season really.

    probably underdone like some of our players were.

    But he is elite in  preparation I recall so expect a big spike in mobility.

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    Nothing to worry about. We will absolutely turn the saints into a pulp. 

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    2 hours ago, ding said:

     

    No disrepect to the Saints as i reckon they have finally found their mojo, but we will still beat them in a canter.

    Yeah Ding, just like last season when we met  them at the MCG.

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