On 05/04/2019 at 20:12, Wells 11 said:

For mine It wasn’t that he sounded complacent. But the line “ we’ve been building to a performance like that” that what u say AFTER a big or gutsy win.  it was HALF TIME ffs . The “ performance” was one quarter... and the game wasn’t finished. 

It sounds like Goodwin just expects everything to click and go our way eventually and we just streamroll teams with one way chaos-ball momentum. It's all a bit one dimensional.

Edited April 5, 20196 yr by John Demonic

  On 05/04/2019 at 19:54, John Demonic said:

The rose colored glass mob in this forum have been blindsided by this, refusing to see that last years unaddressed deficiencies would be our downfall this year. (Although we all have to this 0-3 extent)

The elephant in the room is that we should've missed the finals last year but had some fortunate circumstances go our way with Kennedy missing and GWS already cemented in the 8. We were continually destroyed by fast teams that used the wide expanses of the G all year. ALL YEAR I asked "when are we going to get a big win like in 2017?" Our big wins turned out to be False Dawns. A terrible Adelaide by 100, and WCE over there without their key pillars. The same problems last year with our defence and lacklustre forward entries, have now turned into the key reasons for our demise as other teams have worked us out. All of that papered over because wE MaDe ThE PreLiM.

We beat up on the weak teams but continually failed against the better teams. Sadly the weak teams have now improved ten fold and we've been exposed.

Hard to disagree with this.

Never EVER trade a A grade forward

  On 05/04/2019 at 12:50, Forest Demon said:

I’m not sure where to begin but here we go...

BAD

Kolodjashnij has been awful

Omac and Frost completely laughable

Hibberd and Jetta two good players who haven’t fired a shot

ANB has been straight up [censored] this year

TMac and Weideman have given us nothing

Gawn slow out of the blocks

That 3rd quarter was diabolical after working our way back into the game. Seriously, if you get the chance, listen to Brayshaw’s half time interview.

GOOD

A few fringe players held their own in Wagner x 2 and Lockhart

Petracca was dangerous most of the game, that should be the standard

That is all

That Brayshaw interview was weird, there was a massive sense of complacency and it worried me too.

One positive from last night is we've risen from 18th to 17th on the ladder. Onward and upward? 

Essendon were abysmal ... we were worse.

Season over.

 

  On 05/04/2019 at 20:31, gOLLy said:

Never EVER trade a A grade forward

Never EVER pay two first round draft picks for anybody.

Real Concerns...

• Roos defensive foundations of working both ways gone
• 6,6,6 exposed us badly
• Losing a Key forward Hogan though didn't want to stay & has own issues got in May who has come in under done & overweight questions what type of player is he
• Viney & Jones look like they are still in preseason
• History repeating itself of the last 55yrs of the MFC, tease your supporters into a false sense of success only to come crashing down

Edited April 5, 20196 yr by Demonsone

  On 05/04/2019 at 19:13, Dockett 32 said:

The Elephant in the room is the co captains.

 

Been saying this for a long time. The best leadership Jones can show now is to drop himself. It seems the first question asked at selection is to where can we hide him on the field. Viney is now almost a carbon copy of Trengove in his final seasons with us. Clearly he plays hobbled and currently of limited value. Both huge liabilities across the middle  with  lack of pace and diminished skills. I question whether we can be any worse without their so called leadership on the field. Only one way to tell. If the old won’t go away then the new won’t come. 

Edited April 5, 20196 yr by america de cali

Brayshaw suggesting that some players are not buying in is a direct swipe at which individuals? Sounds like we need to only play those players who are buying in, even if they are youth.

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:17, Thehardtackler said:

Brayshaw suggesting that some players are not buying in is a direct swipe at which individuals? Sounds like we need to only play those players who are buying in, even if they are youth.

Think that was also Goodies line in the presser, so probably came from the team meeting.  

Lack of speed. Some appalling skill errors at critical times that could have resulted in goals. Some dumb footballers in the side too. All adds up to a very ordinary side at this point. 

Leadership Problems. It has to be that. 

The players are not prepared, right at the first bounce

Jones must step aside. His time has come

Goodwin and co have to make some big calls or this season could totally implode, it’s close now. 

Yep only 3 games in, but it is the way we are playing. 

 

Edited April 5, 20196 yr by Sir Why You Little

Hard to believe that just two weeks ago I woke with some hope in my heart. Although I did have some trepidation. That pre-season talk of how finishing fourth wouldn’t be good enough this year was rather unsettling, whiffs of the classic MFC trait of getting ahead of themselves. Maybe what they were meaning to say was that finishing fourth wasn’t good enough this year when it comes to the end of season draft, bottom four would far better. If that was what they meant, so far every post has been a ‘winner’.

Great Defensive Goody

18 goals in Prelim

20 goals vs Cats

20 goals vs Ess

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:36, Demonsone said:

Great Defensive Goody

18 goals in Prelim

20 goals vs Cats

20 goals vs Ess

Port game only looks better because they couldn't hit the barn most of the game. 

We were useless defensively that day too.

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:40, beelzebub said:

Port game only looks better because they couldn't hit the barn most of the game. 

We were useless defensively that day too.

Not to mention JLT games got scored very easily..

  On 05/04/2019 at 12:53, waynewussell said:

You are spot on... but don't apologise for laying out for all to see... I will do an analysis of the decisions (and non-decisions) in this game to highlight how the umpires enabled the Bombers to win

Please do. And send it to the club and the afl and anyone else. It was nothing short of unprofessional. 

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:28, Sir Why You Little said:

Leadership Problems. It has to be that. 

The players are not prepared right at the first bounce

Jones must step aside. His time has come

Goodwin and co have to make some big calls or this season could totally implode, it’s close now. 

Yep only 3 games in, but it is the way we are playing. 

 

If things dont improve this year, i expect a huge internal overhaul. Coaching staff right down to the players.

Richmond did it at the end of 2016 and it paid off.

Recruiting staff need to be questioned also. 3 first round draft picks for Lever and May is looking more and more diabolical as each game they are sidelined with injury.

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:44, dazzledavey36 said:

If things dont improve this year, i expect a huge internal overhaul. Coaching staff right down to the players.

Richmond did it at the end of 2016 and it paid off.

Recruiting staff need to be questioned also. 3 first round draft picks for Lever and May is looking more and more diabolical as each game they are sidelined with injury.

I think it’s pretty unfair to have a dig at recruiting over injured players. We recruited the positions we needed, can’t really control whether they get injured or not. 

I don't mind getting a top 5 draft pick this year knowing that next year we have a full pre-season, two brand new key position backs and an opportunity to change our forward setup ala Geelong this year.

We're still young and Goodwin is still stubborn but will realise he has to change. ANB, Oscar and Frost cannot play for us if we're a genuine contender.

Edited April 5, 20196 yr by stevethemanjordan

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:44, dazzledavey36 said:

If  things dont improve this year, i expect a huge internal overhaul. Coaching staff right down to the players.

Richmond did it at the end of 2016 and it paid off.

Recruiting staff need to be questioned also. 3 first round draft picks for Lever and May is looking more and more diabolical as each game they are sidelined with injury.

I like you optimism

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:52, Smokey said:

I think it’s pretty unfair to have a dig at recruiting over injured players. We recruited the positions we needed, can’t really control whether they get injured or not. 

It called due diligence Lever had known knee injuries and May soft tissue plus slow last and fat in the worse team in the AFL. Yes it could have worked but like throwing your last dollars on zero when spinning the roulette wheel. These recruiting decisions were massive fair or not this is a complete bust.

  On 05/04/2019 at 21:52, Smokey said:

I think it’s pretty unfair to have a dig at recruiting over injured players. We recruited the positions we needed, can’t really control whether they get injured or not. 

If you overpay for something that doesn’t work, it’s hard to consider it a wise decision, particularly when what you purchase has an injury predisposition cloud.

The opportunity cost on this transaction is looking pretty aweful right now.

 

 

Round 3: Drink it up!