Jump to content

AFLX Revamped

Demonland
Demonland
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

20 minutes ago, Macca said:

There are a few major differences between both the BBL & AFLX though BM.

t20 was already successful on the world stage when the Big Bash was launched so it was always going to get a captive audience.  AFLX is starting from ground zero so it needs the stars playing to have a good chance of succeeding. 

The comparisons for me lay with the demographics that both forms of sport are vying for ... and that's why there is so much opposition - especially here on this site. 

Old school,  old ideals and old values vs New Age.   That's why the debate rages and will continue to rage.   Seen it before a stack of times in various sports including cricket and horse racing.  On that,  NSW racing is aggressively challenging the Victorian stronghold and a lot in Victoria don't like it.  Bring it on I say.  The more competition,  the better.

Yes. Good points, well made

  • Quote
    •  
    18 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    AFLX is still going to need some big name players to make it a success. That's why the AFL have "coaxed" Patrick "the season is too long" Dangerfield and the other stars to be the faces of it.

     

    Maybe. Stars like Danger do have some traction with kids under 12 i guess but i reckon lots of little kids would interested in the show than who plays. Particularly if the stars are only going through the motions and doing their best to avoid contact (not very super heroish).

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    20 hours ago, Demonland said:

     

    Dunno bout the rest of you, but i cant wait to see the clash strips.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    • Haha 2
     
    55 minutes ago, Macca said:

    The injury risk is overplayed considering that any player can get injured anytime,  anywhere.  The AFLX games are as much an injury risk as simulated training and way less a risk than practice games or the real stuff.  And we play less practice games these days so the overall injury risk has lessened anyway.

    Did you watch AFLX last year rjay?  I did and the games were like touch football with very little tackling and almost zero congestion.  And there was very little chance of fatigue injuries when considering how short & sharp the contests were

    As for the appeal of the concept,  whatever floats your boat I say so if AFLX gains a large audience,  so be it. 

    No problem with the game 'Macca', from what I hear kids love to play it at school...a bit like touch football.

    Just can't see the point in using current AFL players to push it.

    I think they would be much better off using retired champions with current VFL/SANFL/WAFL players...would be a further encouragement for players to stay in the game at a higher level rather than giving up or heading back to the minor leagues.

    Throw a bit of cash around and get inventive with it...I don't like AFL club players being involved at all.

    23 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    There is not a need to rejuvenate the game and in order for the AFL to fasttrack this idea they need stars. They don't have the time to grow this game in the minors because the game is not broken for the minor leagues to be able to bring people over to the concept. The only way to ingratiate the audience is to give them the stars.

    This paragraph is all over the place...if there is no need to rejuvenate the game then why bother.

    The game is broken in the minor leagues and could do with a kick along...it's a hybrid game, why not a hybrid concept.

    The stars by the way in the BBL weren't current Australian test players, the big names apart from a couple of O/s players were retired/semi retired champions. No one worried about it as the game itself stacked up.

    Get a game up, get some star power onboard (Pavlich, Mitchell, Vince etc) with the local league players (state of origin feel/someone real to barrack for) add some marketing $'s behind it and off you go.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    22 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

    Not saying I agree with the AFLX focus but....

    Increased world TV rights. Licence fees if it takes off in a country. Potential to uncover international AFLX talent that can translate to trial AFL as an international rookie. 

    I would prefer they create AFLX and fiddle with rules for an international version there than attempt to refine the pure game into a farce that may suit.

    When it is all said and done there is not much more that the AFL can do here in this country ... others may disagree especially those looking at grass roots level but to grow the game in a major way we have to go international. 

    You make some very good points on the potential benefits that may come about so why not take the game to the world in AFLX form.  The fantastic stadiums are all there so it's just a matter of sticking up the goal posts and away you go.  It's a very clever concept if you think about it.

    I don't believe the long term focus is local anyway but they have to start somewhere.

  • Quote

    • Author
    1 minute ago, rjay said:

    This paragraph is all over the place...if there is no need to rejuvenate the game then why bother.

    The game is broken in the minor leagues and could do with a kick along...it's a hybrid game, why not a hybrid concept.

    The stars by the way in the BBL weren't current Australian test players, the big names apart from a couple of O/s players were retired/semi retired champions. No one worried about it as the game itself stacked up.

    Get a game up, get some star power onboard (Pavlich, Mitchell, Vince etc) with the local league players (state of origin feel/someone real to barrack for) add some marketing $'s behind it and off you go.

    My opinion is that the game is not broken so we don't need to fix it by bringing in AFLX. For some stupid unknown reason the AFL think the code needs AFLX and the only way the can try to fasttrack AFLX is by using the current stars of the game. I don't believe the AFLX will succeed in the minor leagues to the point where it can be a showcase because there is no problem with the length or rules of the game. I think the AFL realise that AFLX won't become popular in the bush leagues to the point where they can drag out no-ones and retired stars and get 20,000+ to pay for tickets and hence Danger and co.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    8 minutes ago, rjay said:

    No problem with the game 'Macca', from what I hear kids love to play it at school...a bit like touch football.

    Just can't see the point in using current AFL players to push it.

    I think they would be much better off using retired champions with current VFL/SANFL/WAFL players...would be a further encouragement for players to stay in the game at a higher level rather than giving up or heading back to the minor leagues.

    Throw a bit of cash around and get inventive with it...I don't like AFL club players being involved at all.

    I reckon we'll know a lot more after viewing year 2 of the concept with the different logo's,  names and all the rest of it.  But I won't be watching it in terms of the excitement of winning.  More so as an entertainment package and whether it could gain traction with a younger audience as the mainstay.

    We watch footy with one aim in mind - winning.  Take that aspect away and AFLX has to be viewed differently.  And if that different viewership attracts good numbers,  they may be on to a winner.  Time will tell.

    I'm about as old school as it gets with some sports (AFL,  Test Cricket,  the Horses,  Soccer) but I see AFLX as Sports Entertainment or as pure entertainment that has an appeal to certain demographics.  Much like Big Bash,  WWE or ESports.   And those 3 forms of entertainment alone bring in the big $$$$'s. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     
    29 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    Good article. 

     

    they are moving on from circus performing freaks to hollywood super hero wannabees - lol - what next,  polo playing impresarios?

  • Quote
    • Haha 1
    • 4 weeks later...

    Goyder: Gil, we’ve surveyed the population and it appears overweight comic-book geeks aren’t interested in AFL.

    Gil: I’ve got this. 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

  • Quote

    I don't care about AFLX, but doing it as State of Origin could have been quite good and with only seven players per side even the smaller states like New South Wales and Queensland could have been competitive.

  • Quote
    • Like 5
    2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    I don't care about AFLX, but doing it as State of Origin could have been quite good and with only seven players per side even the smaller states like New South Wales and Queensland could have been competitive.

    too sensible, clint

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Betts' deadly... what?  or they are just deadly?

    this is pure bile. lets hope no demons are involved

  • Quote
    2 hours ago, DubDee said:

    this is pure bile. lets hope no demons are involved

    According to this article none of our players are listed in the 20 players best suited to AFLX, which is good in a way, although Oliver should be a tad offended, he could bring snow to Darwin but he’s not AFLX material. 

    http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-13/uncanny-xmen-the-20-top-players-suited-to-aflx

    Edited by Dee Zephyr

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    On 12/13/2018 at 9:00 AM, Demonland said:
    • 4 Teams hand picked by 4 Captains.
    • One team will be an All Indigenous side captained by Eddie Betts called Team Skill.
    • One team will be captained by Patrick Dangerfield and will be called Team Speed.
    • The AFL will pre-select 100 players of which the 4 captains will pick 10 players for their teams. 

     

    For once I will be quite happy for us to sit this one out.

    What an absolute wankfest we have ru(i)Ning our game.

    On 12/13/2018 at 9:33 AM, Diamond_Jim said:

    a bad idea that got even worse... one really has to wonder whether the AFL is up to running this sport.

    Take a lesson from T20.. expose the public via the lower leagues. If it takes off then bring in the higher leagues.

    I ceased to woder that several years back.

    On 12/14/2018 at 6:34 AM, DSP said:

    Im actually astounded that they have managed to make AFLX worse.

     

    Team Speed and Skill? Really?

    Gil to dash onto the field on his polo pony: would bring both members of the crowd to their feet.

  • Quote

    If we all ignore it will it go away? I have more interest in eating a fatberg than watching AFLXyz..!

  • Quote
    18 minutes ago, monoccular said:

    What an absolute wankfest we have ru(i)Ning our game.

    I ceased to woder that several years back.

    Gil to dash onto the field on his polo pony: would bring both members of the crowd to their feet.

    it will all be marvel-lous(y)

    Edited by daisycutter

  • Quote

    Note to Gil & fellow nuffies: if I didn't have any interest in watching my own team play (and win) AFLX last year, why would I have any more interest in watching this ugly, red-headed bastard stepson of a concept? Wow, even more publicity for the already dangerously over-exposed Dangerfield and Betts!

    Broadly speaking I understand the idea behind having a version of the game that requires less space, less players and less physicality, but the execution of the idea has been so bad it has no chance of ever gaining acceptance. 

    And only the AFL (and perhaps Cricket Australia) would cannibalise their own product by running it at the same time as they are trying to get publicity and sponsors for AFLW.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    36 minutes ago, poita said:

    Note to Gil & fellow nuffies: if I didn't have any interest in watching my own team play (and win) AFLX last year, why would I have any more interest in watching this ugly, red-headed bastard stepson of a concept? Wow, even more publicity for the already dangerously over-exposed Dangerfield and Betts!

    Broadly speaking I understand the idea behind having a version of the game that requires less space, less players and less physicality, but the execution of the idea has been so bad it has no chance of ever gaining acceptance. 

    And only the AFL (and perhaps Cricket Australia) would cannibalise their own product by running it at the same time as they are trying to get publicity and sponsors for AFLW.

    Well said.

  • Quote
    • 2 weeks later...
     

    I always try not to sweat the small things in life or lose sleep over the things in this world out of my control, but for some reason AFLX makes me furious. 

    It is purely an exploitative corporate bastardisation of our game from the kitsch format down to the tacky ‘Marvel’ superhero themed teams.

    Its genuinely worrying for the future of the game that the AFL wants to see this format succeed.

     

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 10

      The Sir Doug Nicholls Round kicks off in Darwin with a Top 4 clash between the Suns and the Hawks. On Friday night the Swans will be seeking to rebound from a challenging start to the season, while the Blues have the Top 8 in their sights after their sluggish start. Saturdays matches kick off with a blockbuster between the Collingwood and Kuwarna with the Magpies looking to maintain their strong form and the Crows aiming to make a statement on the road. The Power face a difficult task to revive their season against a resilient Cats side looking to make amends for their narrow loss last week. The Giants aim to reinforce their top-eight status, while the Dockers will be looking to break the travel hoodoo. The sole Saturday game is a critical matchup for both teams, as the Bulldogs strive to cemet their spot in the top six and the Bombers desperately want break into the 8. Sundays start with a bottom 3 clash between the Tigers and Kangaroos with both teams wanting to avoid the being in wooden spoon contention. The Round concludes with the Eagles still searching for their first win of the season, while the Saints look to keep their finals hopes alive with a crucial away victory. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

        • Like
      • 165 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Brisbane

      And just like that, we’re Narrm again. Even though the annual AFL Sir Doug Nicholls Round which commemorates the contributions of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture to our game has been a welcome addition to our calendar for ten years, more lately it has been a portent of tough times ahead for we beleaguered Narrm supporters. Ever since the club broke through for its historic 2021 premiership, this has become a troubling time of the year for the club. For example, it all began when Melbourne rebranded itself as Narrm across the two rounds of the Sir Doug Nicholls Round to become the first club to adopt an Indigenous club name especially for the occasion. It won its first outing under the brand against lowly North Melbourne to go to 10 wins and no losses but not without a struggle or a major injury to  star winger Ed Langdon who broke his ribs and missed several weeks. In the following week, still as Narrm, the team’s 17 game winning streak came to an end at the hands of the Dockers. That came along with more injuries, a plague that remained with them for the remainder of the season until, beset by injuries, the Dees were eliminated from the finals in straight sets. It was even worse last year, when Narrm inexplicably lowered its colours in Perth to the Waalit Marawar Eagles. Oh, the shame of it all! At least this year, if there is a corner to turn around, it has to be in the direction of something better. To that end, I produced a special pre-game chant in the local Narrm language - “nam mi:wi winnamun katjil prolin ambi ngamar thamelin amb” which roughly translated is “every heart beats true for the red and the blue.” >y belief is that if all of the Narrm faithful recite it long enough, then it might prove to be the only way to beat the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba on Sunday. The Lions are coming off a disappointing draw at Marvel Stadium against a North Melbourne team that lacks the ability and know how to win games (except when playing Melbourne). Brisbane are, however, a different kettle of fish at home and have very few positional weaknesses. They are a midfield powerhouse, strong in defence and have plenty of forward options, particularly their small and medium sized players, to kick a winning score this week after the sting of last week’s below par performance.

        • Love
      • 11 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Hawthorn

      There was a time during the current Melbourne cycle that goes back to before the premiership when the club was the toughest to beat in the fourth quarter. The Demons were not only hard to beat at any time but it was virtually impossible to get the better them when scores were close at three quarter time. It was only three or four years ago but they were fit, strong and resilient in body and mind. Sadly, those days are over. This has been the case since the club fell off its pedestal about 12 months ago after it beat Geelong and then lost to Carlton. In both instances, Melbourne put together strong, stirring final quarters, one that resulted in victory, the other, in defeat. Since then, the drop off has been dramatic to the point where it can neither pull off victory in close matches, nor can it even go down in defeat  gallantly.

      • 1 reply
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Footscray

      At twenty-four minutes into the third term of the game between the Casey Demons and Footscray VFL at Whitten Oval, the visitors were coasting. They were winning all over the ground, had the ascendancy in the ruck battles and held a 26 point lead on a day perfect for football. What could go wrong? Everything. The Bulldogs moved into overdrive in the last five minutes of the term and booted three straight goals to reduce the margin to a highly retrievable eight points at the last break. Bouyed by that effort, their confidence was on a high level during the interval and they ran all over the despondent Demons and kicked another five goals to lead by a comfortable margin of four goals deep into the final term before Paddy Cross kicked a couple of too late goals for a despondent Casey. A testament to their lack of pressure in the latter stages of the game was the fact that Footscray’s last ten scoring shots were nine goals and one rushed behind. Things might have been different for the Demons who went into the game after last week’s bye with 12 AFL listed players. Blake Howes was held over for the AFL game but two others, Jack Billings and Taj Woewodin (not officially listed as injured) were also missing and they could have been handy at the end. Another mystery of the current VFL system.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Brisbane

      The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 284 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Hawthorn

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • 53 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All