Injury List - Season 2019

[ManDee 7,134]

12 hours ago, Monocology said:

I think it's high time we look into the acult.

I've seen posters up for a reworking of the brilliant 'Pet Cemetery' with original tagline (&  disturbingly relevant to us) - 'they don't come back the same'.

A cult or occult or both?  

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

23 minutes ago, GCDee said:

I thought Hannan was out with a Knee?

Got injured in the rehab group

[GCDee 3,199]

15 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Got injured in the rehab group

Classic... 

Missed that one

[drysdale demon 4,832]

15 hours ago, picket fence said:

We will be absolutely FLOGGED! 

With so many injuries and NQR patch up positional players Im already shuddering!

Have you ever stopped shuddering?

[Redleg 40,905]

23 hours ago, Demonland said:

Joel Smith has been downgraded from 6-8 to 4-6 within a week.

Trying to make his dad happy.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

4 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Have you ever stopped shuddering?

How Picket Fence imagines himself differs from how the rest of us imagine him. Guess which is which:

 

[drysdale demon 4,832]

12 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

How Picket Fence imagines himself differs from how the rest of us imagine him. Guess which is which:

 

I'm tipping the bottom picture with a couple of pickets missing

[58er 6,432]

6 hours ago, Smokey said:

I get your point and don't argue with any of it, however I asked for examples from 2019. Not the last 5 years. 

Agreed Smokey I asked TGR and haven't seen any and I volunteered Joel Smith.

I was looking for from say Goody era not 2013 on. Agree we weren't on the money with Jack Trengove but I have no doubt at all ( my own opinion only) that Jack Viney declared himself available for us in late 2017 vs Port and it was not Club Officials who forced him. Yes it was like last week and I reckon Goody took his word (Prob too scared to argue ) 

Are we looking at Gawny R1 this year or when ? 

Other than that I can't recall any others.

in 1998 we were the same going to Perth plenty injured and Robbo came up trumps and other DLanders and myself have referred to This game that got us going again to a Prelim.

a great challenge but hero's are born in these circs. TMac May need to kick 4/5!

[bing181 9,219]

23 hours ago, TGR said:

Off the top of my head....

All speculation. You have no inside information on even what the specific injuries are, let alone how they presented at the time. Nor do you have any medical expertise yourself.

You're also guilty of confirmation bias (though we all are, it's the way our brain works), in that you're citing examples that support your (supposed) case, while ignoring all those that don't. i.e., you're ignoring all the times that players come off with injuries, are then patched up and sent back out - and are fine. Which is the majority of cases.

Edited May 16, 2019 by bing181

[58er 6,432]

23 hours ago, TGR said:

58er, one overt example is enough in my book.  Joel Smith's was pathetic, in a JLT when we had fit guys on the bench.  Sports science with loading minutes has gone mad.

Off the top of my head....

Steven May - Groin.  Came off.  Got assessed.  Went back on when the game was done and dusted.  Little wonder he will miss months, not weeks.  But I guess we can rest easy trying to blame the 'way he presented'.

Viney - AC courtesy of Stack.  Got assessed as a partial tear.  Came back on when game was well and truly over.

(Viney - foot surgery fiasco of 2017)

Melksham - Foot, but I am happy to give them a GOAJC due to the circumstances.

 

 

Usually, us on the outside can only see a hint of what is going on.  Might be lucky to find maybe 1 per year where the decision makers made a calculated risk.  We have had a series of dumb decisions this year in particular.

Thanks TGR sorry 

I missed your post (quoted just know that U hadn't seen any examples)

Stephen  May came back after half time vs Cats at  Geelong not when the game was dusted ie late 3rd Quarter.

And (only my opinion ) Jack bullied the Coach and selectors and prob doctors and was allowed like last week to make his mind up how his body (foot) was.I agree this was a debacle and was surprised when it seemed to reoccur again last Sat so far with a good result. JV was great in the last 49 secs !!

I believe Joel is the only recent case but maybe Jack Trengove could have "slipped" through the net in the last 5 years.

Agree I think new medicos and a review of this at end no matter what eventuates in 2019 is necessary.

Aldo U believe the line coaches should also be nervous about 2020on!

[bing181 9,219]

19 hours ago, DV8 said:

Jack Trengove... how many instances does anyone need ?

Viney's plantar fascia.

TMc's toe.

Gawn being allowed to come back, too soon.... although this aided us,  with St-Pedo... and TMc to the forwardline, via being 2nd ruck.

For god's sake.

Some of you should spend a week on a cancer ward. The best we can say about medical science and the identification and management of injuries and pathologies is that it's stretching it to even call it a science - informed guesswork would be closer to the mark, though even the "informed" bit gets lost in many cases.

I have a heart condition. The doctor who told me 10 years ago that I needed an operation wasn't wrong or incompetent. He was basing his opinion on the information he had in front of him, in comparison to similar cases and outcomes. I still haven't had the op.

[Redleg 40,905]

35 minutes ago, 58er said:

 

in 1998 we were the same going to Perth plenty injured and Robbo came up trumps and other DLanders and myself have referred to This game that got us going again to a Prelim.

 

I went across to Perth and saw that game with the family. It was sensational.

I gave us no hope whatsoever, with the injury ravaged team we had, just like tomorrow.Can lightning strike twice?

My son and I were asked to help with the banner and we were more than happy to oblige.

A very memorable day indeed.

[Redleg 40,905]

16 minutes ago, bing181 said:

For god's sake.

Some of you should spend a week on a cancer ward. The best we can say about medical science and the identification and management of injuries and pathologies is that it's stretching it to even call it a science - informed guesswork would be closer to the mark, though even the "informed" bit gets lost in many cases.

I have a heart condition. The doctor who told me 10 years ago that I needed an operation wasn't wrong or incompetent. He was basing his opinion on the information he had in front of him, in comparison to similar cases and outcomes. I still haven't had the op.

Did you tell him you were a Dees fan? That is not good for the ticker.

Seriously though, I hope you are well and continue to be so for many years to come well into your old age and enjoy seeing a few more Dees flags, though one would be nice for starters.

[spirit of norm smith 16,450]

Lewis failed the test.  

[chook fowler 19,458]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Lewis failed the test.  

He did that the last time we played the Eagles.

[TGR 1,367]

17 hours ago, bing181 said:

All speculation. You have no inside information on even what the specific injuries are, let alone how they presented at the time. Nor do you have any medical expertise yourself.

You're also guilty of confirmation bias (though we all are, it's the way our brain works), in that you're citing examples that support your (supposed) case, while ignoring all those that don't. i.e., you're ignoring all the times that players come off with injuries, are then patched up and sent back out - and are fine. Which is the majority of cases.

Your speculation in the your first paragraph is totally and utterly incorrect.

Typical pulpit response that attempts to get an 'A' for grammar and attempted overt common-sense, but actually gets an 'F' for accuracy.  Rather than assume, it aint that difficult to do 5 minutes of relative research around here.

 

 

You obviously think the current medical/training services team will continue in 2020?  You remind me of the Liberals with climate change.

 

In relation to our team, I see parallels with Jordan Lewis, who had a great history of leadership, insight, experience, respect, and bravery, but when the basics are needed (earning your spot, keeping your feet, and being disciplined) he falls short.

 

 

 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

ANB, Salem and Smith all in doubt for next week as per ABC radio

[Brownie 5,980]

11 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

ANB, Salem and Smith all in doubt for next week as per ABC radio

So that would be 3 suspensions for wce players right?

Watch the mrp backflip

[Lucifers Hero 39,758]

15 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

ANB, Salem and Smith all in doubt for next week as per ABC radio

Salem has had a number of concussion episodes.  Desperately hope this one isn't serious.

[spirit of norm smith 16,450]

All should still be available. 

Eagles player took out Salem going for a mark. Anb was an accidental contact. Smith got body slammed and expect Eagles player to be either fined or a 1- match penalty. 

[dazzledavey36 54,889]

Pending concussions it seems like we got through with no injuries which is handy!

[Brownie 5,980]

9 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

All should still be available. 

Eagles player took out Salem going for a mark. Anb was an accidental contact. Smith got body slammed and expect Eagles player to be either fined or a 1- match penalty. 

But as per the North player last week. Durdin I think it was. Got suspended for a perfectly legal shepherd because his opponent was concussed.

So... the logic (haha) would be suspension for the Eagles players as per the new rule introduced this year.

Accidental head knocks which lead to concussion get you suspended 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

52 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pending concussions it seems like we got through with no injuries which is handy!

Who knows. There is always a chance that when a player gets concussion they never play again.

[sue 9,102]

2 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Who knows. There is always a chance that when a player gets concussion they never play again.

true. But at least none yesterday left the played knocked out.

[Demonland 72,176]