Best of 3 Grand Final

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,821]

1 hour ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

So we'd be listening to a song about Those three days in September/October?  Sounds about right to me.  Would we have three public holidays as well?  Would they play the third even if it was a dead rubber?  Would they give medals to every player who played in any of the three games?  What would they do if a side sent their seconds over to Perth for match two to get an advantage in the third game back at home again? 

No, no, no.

The song goes "ONE day in September..."

After waiting soo long, don't let them strip us of the dignity we deserve with the have success that is within our reach.

Don't let the accountants ruin our game and the glory we rightfully deserve in our due course.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Pates 9,660]

I understand the arguments for it, particularly from the point of view if interstate sides, but it just feels wrong. It all builds to one single day at the MCG, it’s not a hidden fact it happens every year, you bring it that day (as West Coast did this year) or you don’t (Adelaide last year). 

Putting it over three weeks begs certain questions for me:

- is it Home leg, Away leg, Neutral leg over the three matches?

- if a team has already won by the second game is the third match called off?

- not suggesting this happens but a tactic could be game one the away team decides to target critical players for game one to make them unavailable for the other 2 games?

I would also argue that if the two teams playing were Victorian it immediately makes the whole thing pointless. I also feel it loses the title “Grand Final”. 

[Guest]

Can't agree with this.

I can understand why the Lions got shirty in 2004 for having to pay their home preliminary final at the G, but it is a pretty neutral venue these days.

That's sad for us as it was our fortress a very long time ago but there is little home ground advantage when tickets are allocated the way they are for grand finals.

[DV8 2,271]

I'd prefer a top 5, or 6 finalists.. and a best of 3 , or 5, Grand Final playoffs... rolling around the country.  of course playing in both contestants home states.

It would be good if the decider at least, was played at the McG.

 

Short up the finals series, and lengthen the playoffs.  This will give us the best of twilight playoffs, Night games and the traditional Day Grand Final.

Just the schedule would be less certain.   This will counteract the blowouts, like in 1988.

The scores could even be accumulating each match, until its definitive.

Edited November 17, 2018 by DV8

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

ALL TOGETHER NOW

cause there's up to three days in september with a minimum of two and extending into october
think of the turnover
there isn't any doubting
gil will be there counting
football's such a part of channel 7
they're hoping they'll go to ratings heaven

[DV8 2,271]

13 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

No, no, no.

The song goes "ONE day in September..."

After waiting soo long, don't let them strip us of the dignity we deserve with the have success that is within our reach.

Don't let the accountants ruin our game and the glory we rightfully deserve in our due course.

IF, in the AFL, we played each other once, the Finals Series could start in August... leaving September for the Play offs...  and for some S.O.Origin games, also.

[DV8 2,271]

3 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

ALL TOGETHER NOW

cause there's up to three days in september with a minimum of two and extending into october
think of the turnover
there isn't any doubting
gil will be there counting
football's such a part of channel 7
they're hoping they'll go to ratings heaven

Its really about, in my mind, taking the game to the people... around the country.

I do not know whats in the AFL's minds.

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[radar 1,865]

Play Wimbledon in Switzerland for Federer

[daisycutter 29,613]

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[Diamond_Jim 12,571]

On 11/16/2018 at 3:14 PM, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I’m a definite no on the best of 3 grand finals, but my stance on the MCG only grannies has softened.  If grounds interstate can be brought up to standard (high capacity, facilities, etc) then it should change in the future.

 

Must say I tend to agree but perhaps with a twist. It's a national game and the GF should perhaps rotate. Two years out of four/five in Melbourne and one year out of four in either Adelaide or Perth. Brisbane and Sydney could be added if and when they have 60k plus stadiums.

It has become obvious that the interstate clubs were blindsided by the GF at the MCG for the next 40 years deal and the 3 GF is the way of amending the monopoly position the AFL has got themselves into.

One of the biggest problem with interstate GF's for home teams is that you don't really have the opportunity to preplan and book for attending.

Many of us would have loved to have been in Perth (well as it turned out I was glad I missed it) but the last minute nature of the fixture precludes it. Perhaps we play the prelims in Perth and Adelaide permanently and then the GF in Melbourne.

Not sure what is the right balance but I don't think we have it at present.

And on topic.... definitely no to a best of three finals system.

[george_on_the_outer 7,590]

What would the fans prefer: 2 extra weeks for 2 teams or 2 extra weeks for every team during the season?

Heaven forbid....that could make the FIXture less of a fix and more of a draw....

[Diamond_Jim 12,571]

11 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

What would the fans prefer: 2 extra weeks for 2 teams or 2 extra weeks for every team during the season?

Heaven forbid....that could make the FIXture less of a fix and more of a draw....

Interesting take... the other way is to stretch the finals series itself and have less games each weekend.

As  said I'm not sure what the right answer is but the AFL certainly snookered itself with the 40 year MCG deal.

[layzie 33,796]

One of the worst ideas this year. Makes 6-6-6 look like a drop in the ocean.

This is not a ‘best of series’ sport. We don’t have 100 game seasons with games every few days. It would never work

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,239]

Sounds like one of Baldrick's cunning plans.

Won't happen. 

 

Edited November 17, 2018 by bingers

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,821]

19 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Must say I tend to agree but perhaps with a twist. It's a national game and the GF should perhaps rotate. Two years out of four/five in Melbourne and one year out of four in either Adelaide or Perth. Brisbane and Sydney could be added if and when they have 60k plus stadiums.

It has become obvious that the interstate clubs were blindsided by the GF at the MCG for the next 40 years deal and the 3 GF is the way of amending the monopoly position the AFL has got themselves into.

One of the biggest problem with interstate GF's for home teams is that you don't really have the opportunity to preplan and book for attending.

Many of us would have loved to have been in Perth (well as it turned out I was glad I missed it) but the last minute nature of the fixture precludes it. Perhaps we play the prelims in Perth and Adelaide permanently and then the GF in Melbourne.

Not sure what is the right balance but I don't think we have it at present.

And on topic.... definitely no to a best of three finals system.

That's where at least as things sit now, the interstate teams have some certainty.   The game is at the G and they can plan towards attending it there if they think they will make it.  I wonder if the AFL and it's sponsors could even help soften the blow for the average punter by having an option to charter planes and/or pre-purchase seats on planes so that members could buy Grand Final tickets with plane tickets included at a fixed flat price, rather than inflated last minute prices.

The lesser stadium capacity at interstate venues is also a huge issue.  Huge loss of income for the league as they couldn't pre allocate as many tickets to the corporates etc.  As I understand it, there were also very limited seats available for MFC members/supporters at Perth Stadium that fateful final this year and we're that a grand final and I missed out, then I'd absolutely spew.

[darkhorse72 1,916]

The Eagles CEO likes the idea.

 

https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-coast-eagles/best-of-three-afl-grand-final-series-worth-looking-at-says-west-coast-eagles-football-manager-craig-vozzo-ng-b881024500z

It appears to have been first raised by Pyke after the Crows loss.  Maybe if they played better on the day he wouldn't have had a whinge. 

 

[ox_5 163]

This is getting plenty of media coverage for an idea which can’t happen, not in many of our lifetimes anyway. Didn’t government recently sign a long term deal to keep the grand final at the MCG? 

[Earl Hood 6,086]

I think this can work. First create 2 more expansion teams to make 20 and divide into 2 conferences of 10. New teams would be playing out of Dubbo and Kalgoorlie. Compromise the draft for the next 5 years with priority picks for the Dubbo Quolls and the Kalgoorlie Miners.

Each conference plays each other twice, to get 18 rounds. Top 4 from each conference play off, 1 v 4, 2 v 3. Then winners play off to be conference champions. That’s 23 rounds, then we have a best of 3 AFL World Series Grandfinal playoff. Can’t go wrong with this formula surely! 

[dpositive 1,665]

2 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

I think this can work. First create 2 more expansion teams to make 20 and divide into 2 conferences of 10. New teams would be playing out of Dubbo and Kalgoorlie. Compromise the draft for the next 5 years with priority picks for the Dubbo Quolls and the Kalgoorlie Miners.

Each conference plays each other twice, to get 18 rounds. Top 4 from each conference play off, 1 v 4, 2 v 3. Then winners play off to be conference champions. That’s 23 rounds, then we have a best of 3 AFL World Series Grandfinal playoff. Can’t go wrong with this formula surely! 

Brilliant concept. IP it. Register the brands. Sit back and collect due rewards.

Of course that approach may discourage Gil etc from acting.

 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

Definitely a huge NO from me with one exception. Would have loved best of three in 1958. Rollover Maggies!!

[Smokey 4,389]

I wouldn't take it so seriously. People come up with stupid and unrealistic ideas all the time, it's just getting forced in to the spotlight right now because media outlets need to keep their website traffic ticking over in an otherwise completely boring off season so far. 

This is the problem with the internet in general - it gives the soap box of a lifetime for people starved of attention. 

Edited November 18, 2018 by Smokey

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

On 11/16/2018 at 4:07 PM, beelzebub said:

Could only be something thought up by a total dh/fw !!

 

On 11/17/2018 at 10:45 PM, bingers said:

Sounds like one of Baldrick's cunning plans.

Won't happen. 

 

 

18 hours ago, ox_5 said:

This is getting plenty of media coverage for an idea which can’t happen, not in many of our lifetimes anyway. Didn’t government recently sign a long term deal to keep the grand final at the MCG? 

I assume Sydney FC knows it won't happen. So, why are they promoting the idea? I can think of two reasons:

1. As a diversion to distract from some other issue. I think this is unlikely.
2. Because they actually want something else and this is just the ambit claim to get the ball rolling. So what is it they might want? I'll take a punt and say that all the interstate teams are going to (a) want a guarantee of more of their games in the home and away season played on the MCG or (b) to have more home games than away games during the home and away season to reduce the amount of times they have to travel and increase it for Melbourne-based clubs, or (c) both. 

[Demonland 72,175]

West Coast are on board too.

[george_on_the_outer 7,590]

...another good reason why this stupidity should not be given oxygen.

Victorian side v WCE in the GF.

First final in Perth.  Victorian side send a 2nds team for the first game, knowing the next 2 are in Melbourne.

Who will be the first to be accused of "gaming the system"?

 

Edited November 19, 2018 by george_on_the_outer

[daisycutter 29,613]

When the melbourne cup becomes a best of three races, then it might be time to discuss it