1 hour ago, pineapple dee said:

How long since we had a solid legit full back. Danny Hughes... Ray Biffen 

Steve Smith? Tony Campbell? 

TMac, OMac.

I once got a C+ on a maths test and my dad told me to go and get his belt.

i give wallet a D+

6 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Steve Smith? Tony Campbell? 

Jamie Shannahan...

13 hours ago, tiers said:

Please, no more snide comments about Jesse. As supporters, we invested far too much in his ability to score goals when his real talent lay elsewhere. He was an outstanding champion of our club and deserves to be remembered fondly.

For various team management and balance reasons, he was never allowed to reach his full potential. His real talent was up the field as a running CHF where his ability to read the play and get to a contest, win the ball in the air and on the ground and dispose to the best position was second to none for a 193 player.

There was even a post that suggested that he play CHB. He would have excelled in this position and, if the trade had not occurred, it was a viable option.

We should thank Jesse for his contribution and wish him well at the dockers.

 

What????

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

I thought a B would have been sufficient, we traded to strengthen weaknesses with quality in 3 different areas Defence(May), Midfield(Kolo) and Ruck(Pruess) not many teams did that in this years trade.

Yes we had to let something good go (Hogan) to get something good in return(May), if Freo weren't so stingey we would have had pick 11 instead of 23.

If this would have occured i would have rated our trade period an A.

If 2017 and 2018 trade gets Lever, Fritsch, May, Kolo and Pruess land us a premiership in the next 3 years, it would have been well worth it.

Edited October 23, 20186 yr by Win4theAges

On 10/22/2018 at 12:16 PM, adonski said:

Collingwood ignored their weaknesses and topped up their already strongest area. 

Collingwood desperately wanted May but he chose Melbourne. 

On 10/22/2018 at 11:19 AM, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

How is everyone so confused about the Preuss trade??

We've now got the best number one ruck and one of the best back-up rucks in the comp.....

wallace is an idiot.

Didn't he watch the finals series this year and see how the Eagles unlocked the secret to beat/neutralise 1 big key ruckman (Gawn and Grundy).

Great forward thinking by Mahoney and co with Preuss.

This also guarantees we will be watching Big Max as a 34 year old too running around.

1 hour ago, Bay Riffin said:

Collingwood desperately wanted May but he chose Melbourne. 

Have read that the Pies were his first choice, but knew the chance of them being able to trade for him was minimal at best, we were his second (and better) choice

3 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Have read that the Pies were his first choice, but knew the chance of them being able to trade for him was minimal at best, we were his second (and better) choice

Link to source where you read this please.

Just now, Fifty-5 said:

Link to source where you read this please.

Sorry mate, have no recollection of where I read it.

C+ is about right. Overpaid for May and got unders for Hogan. Whilst bringing in KK who is fringe. 

12 hours ago, TGR said:

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

Seriously?

We win a flag in the next 5 years with Lever and May making significant contributions and they look like smart trades.  Win more than that and they look like genius.  Don't win any and you have a point.  It's not about winning trade week - expect better of you.

Thread should be on Trade board btw

4 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Seriously?

We win a flag in the next 5 years with Lever and May making significant contributions and they look like smart trades.  Win more than that and they look like genius.  Don't win any and you have a point.  It's not about winning trade week - expect better of you.

you're talking about hypotheticals. At this stage, Lever and May have done nothing for our club. 

43 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

you're talking about hypotheticals. At this stage, Lever and May have done nothing for our club. 

That's the whole point, it's premature to make judgements about individual trades now.

The thing I do make judgements about is trading philosophy.  We trade for outcomes and have a reputation for getting the deal done.  Dodoro and Bell do their teams no favours in the long run IMO.

Play hard ball on Lever.  Maybe May and GC don't have faith in us to get the deal done and lose patience and he ends up elsewhere.

Edited October 24, 20186 yr by Fifty-5

8 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

That's the whole point, it's premature to make judgements about individual trades now.

The thing I do make judgements about is trading philosophy.  We trade for outcomes and have a reputation for getting the deal done.  Dodoro and Bell do their teams no favours in the long run IMO.

Play hard ball on Lever.  Maybe May and GC don't have faith in us to get the deal done and lose patience and he ends up elsewhere.

You have to deal what is in front of you. 

Lever and May are important pieces. So we bought them...

if Membership and Sponsorship goes up, the price is paid tenfold, thus irrelevant 

14 hours ago, TGR said:

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

We finished in the top 4 and are one of the favorites for the flag next year. I give you an E-

19 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i give wallet a D+

I rate him a D H

3 hours ago, ManDee said:

We finished in the top 4 and are one of the favorites for the flag next year. I give you an E-

we still have a fair way to go. losing to wce by what really couldve been 130 points plus in the prelim

5 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Sorry mate, have no recollection of where I read it.

Lets face it.
Collingwood have more money, better resources, better facilities, a larger supporter base to play infront of and just played off in a GF.
No surprise to me the perennial basketcase was supposedly 2nd choice.

17 hours ago, TGR said:

In the current era of trading future picks, you need to judge a trading period over 2-3 years.  If we did a Freo last year, we would have got Lever for much less.  We need to think about how that trade impacted our recent efforts.

Even getting May, trading away a 23 yo power forward with 600 goals left in him should have got us a pick in the top 10 remaining in our pocket.

The Lever trade impacted this IMO.

 

I give us a D+ over the 2 years.

 

Freo needed Hogan more than we needed Lever, and they needed to protect draft picks more than we did. Why battle to save a future first rounder when your intent wasn't to go to the draft in the first place?

6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

we still have a fair way to go. losing to wce by what really couldve been 130 points plus in the prelim

Let's say that C is a pass. 9th is half way. Top 3 is top 17%. 

To say D+ is patently showing the writer's bias. I am accepting that TGR and yourself are negative characters, but I am happy with the direction of our club and you naysayers can have your negativity I simply disagree.