Farewell Jesse Hogan

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I remember that Jesse was a big skateboarder back in the day and that a lot of his 'mates' were of that ilk. 

It seemed at the time that the club was doing the right thing by Jesse in regards to his welfare. It may turn out to be the worst thing if he continues down this path.

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I don't think Hogan will see out his contract with Freo.  Whether that is because his issues force him to step away from the game, or because he asks to be traded back to us or at least out of the state, it all adds up to the fact that going back home was a mistake.

 

[Moonshadow 17,577]

What? People are considering Hogan be traded back to us??? Are you people mad. Both sides have made their decisions. Let us dry our eyes and get over it. Much bigger fish to fry.

[beelzebub 23,245]

6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I don't think Hogan will see out his contract with Freo.  Whether that is because his issues force him to step away from the game, or because he asks to be traded back to us or at least out of the state, it all adds up to the fact that going back home was a mistake.

 

I seriously don't think he'll go far at all WB. 

I have a suspicion hell not only not see out his current Freo adventure but he'll end up out of AFL very early.

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21 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I don't think Hogan will see out his contract with Freo.  Whether that is because his issues force him to step away from the game, or because he asks to be traded back to us or at least out of the state, it all adds up to the fact that going back home was a mistake.

 

14 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I seriously don't think he'll go far at all WB. 

I have a suspicion hell not only not see out his current Freo adventure but he'll end up out of AFL very early.

 

Methinks you are writing him off a bit early.  And can't imagine any club trading for him after the trashing of his issues that Freo have done.

Notable cases of high end players with mental health issues:  Buddy (missed a finals series), Tom Boyd (played 23 games in past 2 years and not selected to play this week), Dusty (self confessed issues in The Age last week and who had a dedicated minder virtually full time in his early years).

But they are at clubs who are reasonably good to very good at keeping things in house and putting support around their players.  This cannot be said about Freo.  If Hogan bombs out it will have more to with Freo's incompetence than it will Jesse.  That will be a very sad day.

Edited March 21, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

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Apologies, not trying build suspense, more so just massive hours at work and last nights game put me to sleep. A lot of people wouldn’t agree with his stance,  he didn’t miss Hogan at all. 

- Asked for someone to explain to him how someone can just drink/use drugs to excess than hide behind the guise of mental health.

- Why is it that when this happens the club releases a statement to the effect of “we need to get around this player and care for him” rather that telling the player that he stuffed up and made the wrong decisions.

- No accountability from anymore. 

There was more but that was the gist, obviously he did mention that anxiety wasn’t an issue when he was playing. 

I heard it on Sports Tonight on Wednesday, they were replaying an interview between Blight and I think Wheatley.

I know many won’t agree but I did with a lot of what he said.

Edited March 22, 2019 by Bombay Airconditioning

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36 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

 

Methinks you are writing him off a bit early.  And can't imagine any club trading for him after the trashing of his issues that Freo have done.

You may be right, LH.  But the signs aren't flash.  This sort of stuff hasn't been going on just since he returned to Perth.  As we've seen with the video (which was rubbish stuff from the Age), he's been up to a bit of 'hijinx' for quite a while now.  It seems as though it's been heightened since he has returned to Perth.  I'd love him to get over all of this, but it may take stepping away from the game to do it.

50 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

What? People are considering Hogan be traded back to us??? Are you people mad. Both sides have made their decisions. Let us dry our eyes and get over it. Much bigger fish to fry.

I'm not really suggesting it, Moonie.  It's more a hypothetical and based on how much he loved being at the club and how much the club is still willing to support him.  Nothing more than that.

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11 hours ago, DV8 said:

Too close to Asia ?

Why is the West worse than the East ?   In off-field footy terms ?

Cowboys inhabited the wild west. What do you think?

Or Ethan or McQueen?

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34 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

 

I'm not really suggesting it, Moonie.  It's more a hypothetical and based on how much he loved being at the club and how much the club is still willing to support him.  Nothing more than that.

Wise, a "hypothetical" is much the same as "considering", which is what I wrote.

I'm not sure the club wanted to support Hogan any further. If the numerous reports circulating are true, our club was instrumental in moving him on and not unhappy with the so-called 'unders' we got in the trade, ie, one 1st rounder.

I hope he gets back on track, as any normal human would hope. Mental health and addiction are big issues in society. But I do not know him or his family, so forgive me if i care little, particularly of his thoughts on our club. We would benefit from being more foccussed on the MFC moving on. I'm pleased that another club must deal with Hogan's issues and congratulate Mahoney and co who orchestrated the trade.

 

Edited March 22, 2019 by Moonshadow

[beelzebub 23,245]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

 

Methinks you are writing him off a bit early.  And can't imagine any club trading for him after the trashing of his issues that Freo have done.

Notable cases of high end players with mental health issues:  Buddy (missed a finals series), Tom Boyd (played 23 games in past 2 years and not selected to play this week), Dusty (self confessed issues in The Age last week and who had a dedicated minder virtually full time in his early years).

But they are at clubs who are reasonably good to very good at keeping things in house and putting support around their players.  This cannot be said about Freo.  If Hogan bombs out it will have more to with Freo's incompetence than it will Jesse.  That will be a very sad day.

I'm probably in the minority of maybe...one.. here

If Hogan bombs out it will pretty much be on his own shoulders..

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11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I'm probably in the minority of maybe...one.. here

If Hogan bombs out it will pretty much be on his own shoulders..

 

11 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I'm probably in the minority of maybe...one.. here

If Hogan bombs out it will pretty much be on his own shoulders..

maybe if you were living in the 70's, bub......these days.....?

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11 hours ago, Bonkers said:

Trying to be respectful to Hogan and Croad here, I think you will find their 'issues' are very different.

 

I know both well enough to say their issues are / were near identical.

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9 hours ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Has already been put forward by a few posters

I think getting him back later has been. I don’t think the similarity with Croad has.

 

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1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

I know both well enough to say their issues are / were near identical.

That’s what i was told only a few days ago. 

Trent has gone down a long way since his Grand Final days

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Gotta love the bulls....

In Hun today.p76..Sam Edmund story.

Lead paragraph

" Medical professionals have exposed Fremantle as having made up Jesse Hogan's diagnosis"

Apparently Clinical Anxiety is not a diagnostic category these days...

And the story goes on.

Am ready hard copy...can't link behind paywall 

Yes Hogan has problems.

Yes Freo are full of it....

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He's back.

 

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27 minutes ago, Demonland said:

He's back.

 

And looks like he's at least trying to smile. Proof that he was never interested in staying with us.

[beelzebub 23,245]

14 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

And looks like he's at least trying to smile. Proof that he was never interested in staying with us.

Lurch would be impressed

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56 minutes ago, Demonland said:

He's back.

 

Ah he's recovered from his "clinical anxiety"..that was fast. Its not a term that existed pre Jesse so it must be a short lived condition musnt it? He recovered so fast one could almost think it was just a club suspension...which it wasnt . Was it? 

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

He's back.

 

Classic Flip Flop

What a sad joke...

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Who is going to kick the 40+ goals he kicked for us  last year? It sure won't be the Weid or Tmac. 

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2 minutes ago, old dee said:

Who is going to kick the 40+ goals he kicked for us  last year? It sure won't be the Weid or Tmac. 

Hogan himself. As part of the trade, we get 50% of his goals this year, 25% next year and 10% in the third year.

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

He's back.

 

Cam McCarthy kicking 5 has provided some added motivation. 

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6 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Hogan himself. As part of the trade, we get 50% of his goals this year, 25% next year and 10% in the third year.

Well so far that amounts to zero MR.

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I mean, it's good for him, but I couldn't give a stuff.  He's a Freo player now.