RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, samcantstandya said: Who is now at Port. Pretty sure we were supposed to get compensation for him going to another club. Quote
demon191919 60 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) No, Tom Morris said that the offer of 8 mil over 8 yrs was put forward by Hogan's camp. Freo were surprised as he supposedly only seemed "relatively keen" to move to Freo. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-jesse-hogans-large-contract-demands-contributed-to-fremantle-rejecting-melbournes-trade-offer/news-story/578fbad1c64f774a808b80e3b8707900 Edited October 15, 2018 by demon191919 Quote
ben russell 764 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Freo didn’t make the 8 year offer. Jesse’s management did. Freo knocked it back. 1 Quote
jnrmac 20,375 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said: Got a quote of where he said that? From memory he either said two high first round draft picks or two top 10 picks..I couldn't be arsed looking it up but feel free to flick back a few pages and you might find it.... Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dee Dubya said: Is it is it just me? Has the trade week nonsense addled my brain? Tom Morris says the deals off because of the duration of contract, so ‘Melbourne have to buckle’? What the hell? The duration of the contract between Jessie and Freo is a matter they have to resolve for themselves! Where do we get our journalists from these days? Edited October 15, 2018 by TRIGON 10 1 Quote
Demon from Sydney 50 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 7 hours ago, RyanD said: This ^^ So much crap on here, but the reality is that this is the situation. Win/Win for us. Hmmmm not that simple. Hogan staying doesn't guarantee us a Premiership next year & i seriously dont think we will win it even if we keep Hogan,plus get May. The other downside is that we do no better next year & then he walks out which is inevitable,for less compensation than we can get now Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,458 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, demon191919 said: No, Tom Morris said that the offer of 8 mil over 8 yrs was put forward by Hogan's camp. Freo were surprised as he supposedly only seemed "relatively keen" to move to Freo. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-jesse-hogans-large-contract-demands-contributed-to-fremantle-rejecting-melbournes-trade-offer/news-story/578fbad1c64f774a808b80e3b8707900 Yes. This came from the Hogan camp... ”You want me...Pay up...” Quote
Demonland 74,431 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 The length of contract should have no effect of the price paid in terms of picks. 2 Quote
david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Well that explains a bit Quote
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, demon191919 said: No, I interpreted what Tom Morris said as that offer (8 mill over 8 yrs) was put forward by Hogan's camp. Freo were surprised as he supposedly only seemed "relatively keen" to move to Freo. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-jesse-hogans-large-contract-demands-contributed-to-fremantle-rejecting-melbournes-trade-offer/news-story/578fbad1c64f774a808b80e3b8707900 If Melbourne "buckle first" I'll be furious. We are asking for a fair price for the best young forward in the game. If Fremantle don't have the nerve to follow 5hrough, they can go to hell. I'd be thrilled to keep him. Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Funny, out of that I got the impressi9n that Hogan isn’t that keen to go, the Dees are more keen he does, so Freo don’t want to pay as much as they might have. Hence the insane contract Hogan is asking for. 3 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, david_neitz_is_my_dad said: Well that explains a bit only if you swallow yet another story from sports media may have some truth, may not. too hard to judge from here Quote
DTJ 95 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Seriously, 5 & 11 for Jesse, 36 and 46 is pretty much a reverse of the trade we made to get him. That's not taking into account the development our club has put in, including the year he wasn't even eligible to play for us. We paid up those picks, which GWS used to draft kids that could go straight into the AFL the next season while we had to wait a whole year before he could even play. Quote
Sydney Pennski 309 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) WTF - on the Fox Footy Channel, Leigh Montagna just said Lachie Neale was worth 2 first round draft picks but a minute earlier, he said Jesse Hogan was worth one. Is he for real? Edited October 15, 2018 by Sydney Pennski Quote
GCDee 3,202 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Demonland said: Can we just sign him on a 8 year contract so we can put this [censored] to bed once and for all? 2 Quote
Mickey 4,777 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, TRIGON said: Is it is it just me? Has the trade week nonsense addled my brain? Tom Morris says the deals off because of the duration on contract, so ‘Melbourne have to buckle’? What the hell? The duration of the contract between Jessie and Freo is a matter they have to resolve for themselves! Where do we get our journalists from these days? Me thinks Tom Morris has become Freo's mouthpiece. The logic of the article is off. 'Jesse came to us and said he was relatively keen, but wanted $8mil over 8 years. I mean, it's not like he's a good player or we are poo, so how dare he?! Then Melbourne asked for 2 first rounders as well! Not like he's a good player or anything. Must be a trap! So we offered a first rounder and a second, and when they said no we rejected their trade (?) And now we are really angry if people question if we are bluffing, coz we are definitely not trading for him... but if Melbourne cave we will do a trade.' Tom not the sharpest tool in the shed. 2 1 Quote
Demon from Sydney 50 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Win4theAges said: I've given up with draft theories, pick swapping, home sicknesses and the like. This is exactly how the AFL want draft week to play out, so the public continues to talk about football instead of Cricket, Soccer, Basketball etc. This all should have been completed within a week. Its exactly what it is.Other sports finish up & let the players & supporters relax for a while but the AFL feel they need the constant spotlight.They did the same by demanding all state leagues etc finish before their GF.Seriously Trade Week should be 2-3 days maximum as most of the clubs know who they want & who they want out months ago. Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Sydney Pennski said: WTF - on the Fox Footy Channel, Leigh Montagna just said Lachie Neale was worth 2 first round draft picks but a minute earlier, he said Jesse Hogan was worth one. Is he for real? heard him. he's an idiot......and i wish him and his pals would stop shouting and talk normal - lol Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Demonland said: The length of contract should have no effect of the price paid in terms of picks. Except if the length of the demanded contract scared them off then the picks aren't traded Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Can we stop calling any journalist that has an opinion we disagree with a "Secret agent for XYZ club" or a "Melbourne hater". its just not true. These guys may be wrong, but there's no hidden agenda, take off the tin foil hats. Quote
Biffen 12,949 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Demonland said: The length of contract should have no effect of the price paid in terms of picks. I've always been told any suitor that the length is not as important as money. Length can't buy happiness. Vulgar really. 1 Quote
sue 9,277 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, Lord Neville X Flash said: Can we stop calling any journalist that has an opinion we disagree with a "Secret agent for XYZ club" or a "Melbourne hater". its just not true. These guys may be wrong, but there's no hidden agenda, take off the tin foil hats. In general I agree with you. However it would be naive to assume that none of them have agendas. Most of them are not real journalists who have a code of ethics. They are ex-player and members of boys clubs. Many of them probably suck up to individuals at clubs and that may influence their 'reporting'. So if one of them has a clear history of bias, I don't think a tin foil hat is needed. Personally I don't follow any of them. I barely recognise their names. 7 Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, GCDee said: Can we just sign him on a 8 year contract so we can put this [censored] to bed once and for all? But it wouldn’t. Every year his name would still come up. Quote
Mickey 4,777 Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said: Can we stop calling any journalist that has an opinion we disagree with a "Secret agent for XYZ club" or a "Melbourne hater". its just not true. These guys may be wrong, but there's no hidden agenda, take off the tin foil hats. Spoken like a true lurking Fox Footy 'reporter'. Seriously though, while I agree they may not be pushing a hidden agenda, it is entirely possible they are being fed by a particular club for a reason. Quote
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