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Farewell Jesse Hogan

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1 minute ago, DTJ said:

Not sure why we'd panic. Much prefer Hogan on the list over May, even if we play Hogan in defence for the first few weeks of the season, while Lever gets fit.

I just don't get why people seem to be scrambling to get May in. Our rebound defence dominated when everything clicked for Lever and that was without frost who clearly should have got a game earlier.

Our game relies on defensive squeeze across the park and more time in forward half.  Being able to maintain defensive structures and how we cut off the big forwards leading patterns (especially if 666, the number of the Gill) comes into effect is going to be critical.  Halving one on one contests is the job of the key back, but if they have to do it a dozen times a game, any FB will be made to look a dill.  They must be thinking May adds strength to outbody the big forwards- but we saw what Riewoldt did with great supply against him.

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    43 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Well I think Melbourne have unintentionally shown their hand by publicly admitting we can’t sign may without hogan leaving and now freo are trying to make us panic into thinking we won’t get the deal we want for hogan and miss out on May. If the club stay firm I believe freo will give us the two top 10 picks 

    If AFL permits, and there is precedent, we could offer our 2019 first rounder.

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    1 minute ago, johndemonic said:

    Would like to hear mahoney answer a question of what will be done in defence if Hogan stays. Do we have a plan b recruit or May next year?

    Lever. He's rated higher than May in AFL player ratings.

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    2 hours ago, deanox said:

    The 15 y.o. was the best value whiskey on the market until everyone caught on!

     

    2 hours ago, Stevienic23 said:

    Agreed. I caught on late. Went to an event at Whisky & Alement last year and had it. Went to buy a bottle the next day and couldn't get it.

    Nice drop,

     

    for value line I find it hard to go past this.

    Dalwhinnie 15yr old.

     

     I searched the Glendronach at Dan Murphy’s and it’s now $100. 

    Nicks wine merchants in Doncaster has it for $80.

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    5 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    If AFL permits, and there is precedent, we could offer our 2019 first rounder.

    I do wonder if we may look to trade picks to get the swans first pick and do the trade regardless of hogan. Would be amazing to get May into the club and grab a couple of top 10 picks as well for Jesse. 

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    1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    I do wonder if we may look to trade picks to get the swans first pick and do the trade regardless of hogan. Would be amazing to get May into the club and grab a couple of top 10 picks as well for Jesse. 

    Amazing but unlikely.

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    8 minutes ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

    Lever. He's rated higher than May in AFL player ratings.

    Mahoney said stiffening up defence was one of 3 priorities we plan to address in trade week, this tells me that no back 6 arrangement we had this year is satisfactory going forward. So if Hogan stays, the question is do we have another recruit in mind? Do we wait for 1 year for May? Does Hogan staying/extending include his happiness to play anywhere in particularly at CHB? 

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    I think 300 pages is ‘unders’ and there’s no way we’re accepting unders on this trade thread.

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    2 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

    Mahoney said stiffening up defence was one of 3 priorities we plan to address in trade week, this tells me that no back 6 arrangement we had this year was satisfactory going forward. So if Hogan stays, the question is do we have another recruit in mind? Do we wait for 1 year for May? Does Hogan staying/extending include his happiness to play anywhere? 

    I don't think we would wait a year.  It looks like May in, is priority 1.  Followed by Jesse out, a close second.

    If we found a way to get May independently of the Hogan trade, the tea leaves are saying we would still trade Jesse out but may be more accommodating in what trade we accept.

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    4 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

    I think 300 pages is ‘unders’ and there’s no way we’re accepting unders on this trade thread.

    Or we could just accept 350 pages plus a link to Big Footy?

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    4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    I don't think we would wait a year.  It looks like May in, is priority 1.  Followed by Jesse out, a close second.

    If we found a way to get May independently of the Hogan trade, the tea leaves are saying we would still trade Jesse out but may be more accommodating in what trade we accept.

    This all hinges on whether we have permission to use next years first round pick. I'd have thought. Do we? Those media [censored] are so consumed with Hogan/May pick swapping, that they've never talked about this question.

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    10 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

    Under no circumstances should we accept anything less than 300 pages

    So basically, what he said!

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    3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

    Or we could just accept 350 pages plus a link to Big Footy?

    The Big Footy 2018 or 2019 thread?

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    4 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

    This all hinges on whether we have permission to use next years first round pick. I'd have thought. Do we? Those media [censored] are so consumed with Hogan/May pick swapping, that they've never talked about this question.

    Getting the thread back on track, JD you make a good point here.

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    1 hour ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    Well I think Melbourne have unintentionally shown their hand by publicly admitting we can’t sign may without hogan leaving and now freo are trying to make us panic into thinking we won’t get the deal we want for hogan and miss out on May. If the club stay firm I believe freo will give us the two top 10 picks 

    We can do a deal for May, we dont need Freo, it would be all for strategic purposes.

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    Just now, Win4theAges said:

    We can do a deal for May, we dont need Freo, it would be all for strategic purposes.

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    9 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

    This all hinges on whether we have permission to use next years first round pick. I'd have thought. Do we? Those media [censored] are so consumed with Hogan/May pick swapping, that they've never talked about this question.

    This was brought up by someone earlier on in this mammoth thread. 

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    Back on the subject. I can see why the club would want to get Hogan to sign onto a longer contract BUT as we have seen this trade period contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on. McGovern signs on for 3 years and wants out after 1, Hanneberry has 3 years left on a 5-year deal and good coin and Preuss has 2 years to run on a 3-year deal. All 3 will be at a new club next year and last year Watts had 2 years of his deal to go.

    I admire players that honour their contracts and clubs that do likewise. They are hardly adhered too and today news that Freo wont to get out of the Bennel contract.

     

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    36 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Looks like we are getting closer:

    "The last bit of news for the day, which we must stress is little more than a whisper, is that Steven May had reportedly requested a trade from Gold Coast to Melbourne.

    Given the Demons had already claimed they didn’t have room for both May and Jesse Hogan in the side, you would have to think some progress on the Hogan-to-Fremantle front had been made for that development to have any truth to it."

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/10/09/afl-trade-wrap-day-3-dylan-shiel-scott-lycett-chad-wingard-and-more/

    Deadline for Jesse tomorrow then?  Take your pick:  Melbourne time, Perth time, Bali time!!

    That’s specious reasoning borne out of Mahoney’s inability to explicitly say what he meant by ‘affording’ May. The connotations are that we don’t have the cap space but that is crap; we have been chasing Gaff and Kelly. What we will struggle to do is to ‘afford’ to acquire May with our lack of picks. So the May sitution moving forward really doesn’t mean Hogans’ is too.

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    Am I right in saying that the list managers pull up stumps at 3pm each day?

    In which case they do less work than the real estate industry and need to tough it out a little longer in order to get deals done.

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