Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Willmoy1947 4,140]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Me too however it appears that is not going to happen.

So what is the best we can achieve from the move?

To honest I have little idea but you would hope we get as good a deal as Adelaide got for Lever.

The deal we get is Weideman playing the whole year, and not a hint of a winge. There i said it......

[old dee 23,872]

3 minutes ago, willmoy said:

The deal we get is Weideman playing the whole year, and not a hint of a winge. There i said it......

No deal he put in his best games in the last month of the season however he is still to prove he is a 22 game player in 2019. 

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

13 minutes ago, Rocky said:

? lollll.. nup, he said he loved my company, would buy me a house, that i could've made it in the afl and that we should go for a few surfs down the coast over the summer.. we then sat and smoked a pack of holiday 40's, listening to really modern JJJ dance music with lots of strobe lights

In olden time movies, this is where they cut to a train going into a tunnel and left the rest to your imagination.

[Redleg 41,500]

I'll be at the Bluey courtesy of WJ, who had a spare ticket.

I am sure he will report any news to DL.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Let's face it,  the 2 year only extension was the 'tell' ... I felt like saying something here at the time but who needs an ongoing argument with half the site?  I reckon many were grateful that he'd decided to stay back then but 2 years down the track,  the landscape has changed.

Just like Tommy Mac’s two year deal was a tell?

[beelzebub 23,383]

36 minutes ago, old dee said:

No deal he put in his best games in the last month of the season however he is still to prove he is a 22 game player in 2019. 

he is indeed.  but havent noticed him whinge to tell the truth...when he was ( playing )

Bodes well...proof not delivered yet I agree

[beelzebub 23,383]

25 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Just like Tommy Mac’s two year deal was a tell?

might have more to do with timing and pending free agency ...no ?

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

12 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

might have more to do with timing and pending free agency ...no ?

No, Tom wanted to see how the club was heading, Goodwin was about to take over as head coach, like everyone else, he didn’t know exactly how things would go with yet another head coach.

[beelzebub 23,383]

6 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

No, Tom wanted to see how the club was heading, Goodwin was about to take over as head coach, like everyone else, he didn’t know exactly how things would go with yet another head coach.

even better. 

[Pates 9,660]

The biggest concern I have about our bullish attitude to the trade is a lot of people are already expecting Weideman to just step in a be a gun forward for us next year. I was really pleased by what he showed in the Cats game and parts of the Hawks game but he's still got a long way to go before we can hedge our bets on him.

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

1 minute ago, Pates said:

The biggest concern I have about our bullish attitude to the trade is a lot of people are already expecting Weideman to just step in a be a gun forward for us next year. I was really pleased by what he showed in the Cats game and parts of the Hawks game but he's still got a long way to go before we can hedge our bets on him.

The 2nd tall for TMAC...is far different than the number one spot ...he'll be right.

[SFebes 4,884]

There's no pressure on Weid, he doesn't need to kick 50 straight up. 25-30 would be par, the rest around him can lift like Petracca and a full season out of TMAC plus whatever they have planned for that 2nd ruck. Weid 30, Trac an extra 10-15 and we're laughing. Mason Cox only kicked 25 goals in 24 games FFS.

Edited October 1, 2018 by SFebes

[Macca 17,035]

1 hour ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Just like Tommy Mac’s two year deal was a tell?

No,  wasn't at all concerned with that 2 year deal for Tommy.  It is not one size fits all.  Different player and a different type and the circumstances are and were entirely different. 

As it's turned out,  those people who were concerned about the 2 year only extension with Hogan look like they were rightfully concerned. 

As I stated in an earlier post,  we are behind the times here in Oz but we're catching up ... big name players on big money need to be stitched up on long term deals so as to satisfy the clubs needs and the players needs.  And if the info is correct,  Hogan is on a reportedly $850k per year with us.  That is decent coin.

That sort of money would normally involve a longer deal especially for a player who was only 21 years old at the time.  At least 3 years but more like 4 or 5 years

Edited October 1, 2018 by Macca

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,944]

Weed was horrid in the prelim.

[ding 5,126]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Both 1 and 2 were shouted down about a month or 6 wks ago. Some children demanding the thread be closed, others claiming trade scenarios were a waste of time as he was 'settled'. The usual suspects telling us what we are allowed to think. There was some good discussion on what his value might be both on our list and as a trade.

I'd like him to stay, but understand now is a good time to maximize trade benefits if he is open to a move. He's a quality player, but we have the ability to significantly improve our list should he go. Doubt we'd get 2 x 1st rounders next year, certainly not when he becomes a FA. 

The thing that sticks out most to me, is that the 2 main culprits who were so damn arrogant early in this thread are now trying to pass themselves off as a voice of reason regarding Jesses trade value, and carrying on like its no surprise to them. 

What IS no surprise is that they are too bloody stubborn to put a hand up and say sorry to everyone whos intelligence they unnecessarily insulted.

If the trade happens, i await their response with interest. 

[Macca 17,035]

38 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

No, Tom wanted to see how the club was heading, Goodwin was about to take over as head coach, like everyone else, he didn’t know exactly how things would go with yet another head coach.

You know this for sure? 

Did Tom utter these words to anyone?

[ucanchoose 1,816]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Weed was horrid in the prelim.

Who wasn't?

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Weed was horrid in the prelim.

Remind me which of his teammates didn’t?

[CHF 2,768]

Let me see, a good outcome for the trade/draft period, given our present list situation for me would be the following:

Delist/retired - Vince

                              Balic

                              Pedersen

                              King

                              McKenna

                              Bugg

                              Filipovic

Free agency –    in - Gaff - would also like to have a crack at Lynch but that looks like a done deal to the Tiges

Trade in –           May and KK for a top 10 pick and a pick 2^nd/3^rd round (Note: if we do not land May do we look at Shiel and Finlayson from GWS to use our early draft position from the move of Hogan?)

                              Preuss – 2^nd/3^rd round?

Trade out –         Hogan - Get back two top 10 picks and cap space to accommodate Gaff and possibly one other ‘name’ recruit

                              Kent – Get back a 2^nd/3^rd round

                              AVB – not sure he will go but may get a 2^nd/3^rd round

 

So, already 7 out the door with 3 more (Hogan, Kent & AVB) possible. That is 10 spaces on the list that can be sorted out between the senior list and the rookie list as required. 4 coming back via the trades above but I suspect one more in addition to the above. That would leave 6 spaces with us holding a first round and a few 2^nd and 3^rd round selection.

This is going to be a very interesting draft/trade period for the Dees. Will be interesting to see the washup come the end of it all.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,977]

4 minutes ago, CHF said:

Let me see, a good outcome for the trade/draft period, given our present list situation for me would be the following:

Delist/retired - Vince

                              Balic

                              Pedersen

                              King

                              McKenna

                              Bugg

                              Filipovic

Free agency –    in - Gaff - would also like to have a crack at Lynch but that looks like a done deal to the Tiges

Trade in –           May and KK for a top 10 pick and a pick 2^nd/3^rd round (Note: if we do not land May do we look at Shiel and Finlayson from GWS to use our early draft position from the move of Hogan?)

                              Preuss – 2^nd/3^rd round?

Trade out –         Hogan - Get back two top 10 picks and cap space to accommodate Gaff and possibly one other ‘name’ recruit

                              Kent – Get back a 2^nd/3^rd round

                              AVB – not sure he will go but may get a 2^nd/3^rd round

 

So, already 7 out the door with 3 more (Hogan, Kent & AVB) possible. That is 10 spaces on the list that can be sorted out between the senior list and the rookie list as required. 4 coming back via the trades above but I suspect one more in addition to the above. That would leave 6 spaces with us holding a first round and a few 2^nd and 3^rd round selection.

This is going to be a very interesting draft/trade period for the Dees. Will be interesting to see the washup come the end of it all.

Lynch has nominated Richmond. 

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

30 minutes ago, Macca said:

You know this for sure? 

Did Tom utter these words to anyone?

If my memory serves me correctly, yes he did.

[CHF 2,768]

25 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Lynch has nominated Richmond. 

as noted in my post....."looks like a done deal to the Tiges"

[DeeZee 7,445]

Looks like he is staying now, based on what Maxy said at the b and f

[Ethan Tremblay 30,977]

1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

Looks like he is staying now, based on what Maxy said at the b and f

Has it even started...? 

[qwerty7 326]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Looks like he is staying now, based on what Maxy said at the b and f

What’d he say?