Draftees from outside the AFL system

[Whispering_Jack 28,094]

Terry Wallace has revealed his top 10 players outside the AFL system who clubs should consider recruiting in this year’s draft. I think he erred in omitting Sam Collins of Werribee who I would rank ahead of anyone on this list.

Plough’s top 10 potential draftees outside the AFL system

Plough’s top 10 state level players (not in any order):

Mitch Grigg (Norwood/SANFL)
Shane McAdam (Sturt/SANFL)
Josh Clayton (Southport/NEAFL)
Michael Gibbons (Williamstown/VFL)
Ryan Gilmore (Townsville/Gold Coast Academy)
Josh Corbett (Werribee/VFL)
Sam Sturt (Peninsula Grammar/Victoria)
Jye Bolton (Claremont/WAFL)
Jordan Morrissey (County Carlow/Ireland)
Will Hayes (Footscary/VFL)

... and there are a couple of handy players at Casey who he has overlooked.

[spirit of norm smith 13,415]

Poor again from Wallace. 

AFL system ?? Will Hayes is in AFL System with Footscray/Bulldogs.

Michael Gibbons will not cut it at AFL level. 

Josh Clayton has improved but not enough. Tyler Roos is as good if not better. 

Further players from the SANFL/VFL/NEAFL/WAFL then

Sam Collins  Werribee vfl

Abe Davis South Adelaide sanfl

Marty Hore Collingwood vfl

Jay Lockhart  Casey vfl

Mitch Maguire  Canberra NEAFL

Chris Jansen. Kangas vfl

[spirit of norm smith 13,415]

Blues and Suns to get priority access to state league players to select or trade before the draft. 

Wtf. 

Demons got no priority. Sure we lost S$cully and Frawley$ to get compo picks but not free priority access. 

smells of bias and Suns “poor us syndrome”

[Diamond_Jim 12,017]

Is that all they got by way of priority?

[Lucifers Hero 37,323]

That is quite an advantage.  We have recruited Vandenberg, Hannan, Fritsch and ? from State leagues paid for with draft picks.  All now multiple finals players - GCS and Carlton get the like for free.

TBH I don't mind GCS getting a helping hand but not Carlton - They tanked, have had a plethora of top draft picks, deliberately trade out their experienced talent, had mega favourable fixures (Home games at the G vs big crowds),  FTA favourtism, are poorly managed and are now asking for more handouts!!  Oh, I forgot - the AFL and Eddie want to make them 'great' again!

[Mickey 4,197]

Blues denied a priority pick

[Jibroni 4,239]

Why cant they just get more picks at the back end of the draft to pick up any nor selected?

After watching Mitch Grigg yesterday for Norwood he deserves another AFL lifeline.

[Diamond_Jim 12,017]

The state leagues etc are not a pot of gold.

Leigh Matthews made the excellent point a few weeks back that there is not that much there that has not been thoroughly picked over in the draft saying look at Essendon who had the right to bring on whoever they wanted from the various leagues and how many played on the following year.

Sure there are the exceptions but picking those exceptions is still a lottery.

So what did GCS and Brisbane get as well as this?

[What 18,810]

Can sort of understand the Suns getting some help as theyre a new club and nobody wants to play there.  And their draft concessions were nowhere near as generous as what GWS got.

Carlton getting a helping hand is a disgrace.

Edited September 24, 2018 by Petraccattack

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30 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Blues denied a priority pick

Mitch McGovern deal just got a lot harder.

[Pipefitter 2,040]

I actually agree with something Chris Scott said for the first time ever. It’s a good idea, but to introduce it now after club recruiters have been studying these players for the last year is ridiculous.

[Redleg 38,036]

33 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

Blues denied a priority pick

Has it been denied or not announced yet? Article said assistance packages still being considered.

[monoccular 16,396]

9 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

I actually agree with something Chris Scott said for the first time ever. It’s a good idea, but to introduce it now after club recruiters have been studying these players for the last year is ridiculous.   criminal.

So bloody typical of Gillon and his henchmen making decisions on the run.

What a f'n disgrace are the current AFL leadership.

Edited September 24, 2018 by monoccular

[dl4e 5,648]

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Mitch McGovern deal just got a lot harder.

How?

[Redleg 38,036]

If they only got access to the first 2 state league players, 1 pick each,  that is not bad.

[Redleg 38,036]

2 minutes ago, dl4e said:

How?

No Priority Pick to give Crows and they don't want to give Pick 1. How do they do the deal now?

[dl4e 5,648]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

No Priority Pick to give Crows and they don't want to give Pick 1. How do they do the deal now?

Okay. I couldn't work out why McGovern would choose to go there anyway. Maybe they were going to throw a shizen load of cash at him.

[rjay 24,046]

19 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Has it been denied or not announced yet? Article said assistance packages still being considered.

Mick Warner reporting 'Red'...so pretty reliable.

[Moonshadow 16,409]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

No Priority Pick to give Crows and they don't want to give Pick 1. How do they do the deal now?

Crows give McGov and pick 7, Carlton give up pick 1?

[Ethan Tremblay 28,535]

McGovern to Carlton is all fugazi anyway.

[Redleg 38,036]

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Crows give McGov and pick 7, Carlton give up pick 1?

Blues want Walsh and he goes pick 1. They will not give it up.

Other deals will have to be done.

[Redleg 38,036]

12 minutes ago, rjay said:

Mick Warner reporting 'Red'...so pretty reliable.

Good.

[DeeSpencer 23,488]

41 minutes ago, Redleg said:

No Priority Pick to give Crows and they don't want to give Pick 1. How do they do the deal now?

Note the Barrett story specifically stating that these priority access picks are tradeable. Why would they include that stipulation if it wasn't going to happen?

I have it on strong mail that Carlton will use that first choice to select Shane McAdam from Sturt. They'll then trade his rights to Adelaide for Mitch McGovern, with possibly some late pick swaps. He's this years Tim Kelly and valued at around 15-20. Gold Coast and several other clubs not happy they are missing him.

I think all these players should be free agents and bottom clubs should just use spare salary to sign them, or if not let them pick guys to get for free but not until after pick 30 or 40. As mentioned above we've given up draft picks for Hannan, Fritsch, Vanders, Wagner etc. I don't want to lose a chance at Jay Lockhart. Wouldn't mind Corey Wagner either as a rookie.

Edited September 24, 2018 by DeeSpencer

[Clintosaurus 6,670]

Stay away from Jay Lockhart.

[leucopogon 1,475]

I didn't see anything from any of the Casey players in the last two games to think any of them are worthy of being picked up by an AFL side.