Match Preview and Team Selection - Round 23

[old55 23,701]

1 minute ago, binman said:

Is 2a at the top? I have sat at all 3 levels at tbe punt road end. The middle one is the best. The very top is the one i dislike

2A is actually the third level, in the open in front of the corporate boxes - they call them level 3.  Level 2 is squeezed in underneath, it's under cover elevated and close to the action but I don't like it because it gives a "letter box" view with the roof quite low - and reserved seating

[binman 43,811]

48 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

2A is actually the third level, in the open in front of the corporate boxes - they call them level 3.  Level 2 is squeezed in underneath, it's under cover elevated and close to the action but I don't like it because it gives a "letter box" view with the roof quite low - and reserved seating

Ah yes. I don't like being under the overhang either.

I remember going to the 2000 GF and thinking i had a great seat. Go to my seat at the bottom of the old ponsford stand and i could almost touch the concrete overhang above me. Uggh.

Was a bad start to a very bad day. Wedged in under a million tones of concrete surround by bombers' fans and feeling completely claustrophobic. Double uggh. 

[Skuit 10,031]

On 8/21/2018 at 9:37 AM, Demonland said:

The question was answered partially by Age writer Michael Gleeson before that game in The questions the Demons need to answer where he wrote about the alternate AFL ladder:–

 

“It is the ladder that says what would happen if the team that lost the close games won them instead. So what would happen this year if the teams that lost games by 10 points or less won them?  

 

“The answer? Melbourne would be two games clear on top of the ladder.”  

 

An update as posted in the post-match. Adds quite a different complexion and demonstrates together with our KPI statistical dominance and sub-60 game experience of almost all of our prime movers why Goody doesn't give a fug about the fugazi. 

Melbourne       18        3         

Richmond       15        6

Collingwood   14        7

Geelong           13        8

West Coast      13        8         

Port Adelaide  13        8         

Essendon         13        8         

GWS               12        8     

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Out of interest who do the Giants usually rebound through. In the case of Sydney it was Aliir whereas against the Eagles it is Mc Govern who before being moved forward was manned by Melksham.

Lobb is quite important to them in that strong down the line marking set up. Richmond has showed that a side like GWS and Adelaide can be relatively easily beaten by driving them very wide and owning the corridor. We seem to rely upon the switch which is reflective of our high press that leaves the opposite side of the ground free.

Would love to see some alternative tactics adopted if only for a short while on Sunday.

[Lucifers Hero 40,364]

The squad is in:

Melbourne squad: round 23

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Jordan Lewis
HB: Christian Salem, Sam Frost, Michael Hibberd
? Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, James Harmes
HF: Jake Melksham, Tom McDonald, Aaron vandenBerg
F: Bayley Fritsch, Sam Weideman, Alex Neal-Bullen
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Christian Petracca
I/C (from): Charlie Spargo, Dom Tyson, Dean Kent, Mitch Hannan, Cameron Pedersen, Jay Kennedy Harris, Tomas Bugg, Josh Wagner

In: Pedersen, Kennedy Harris, Bugg, Wagner
Out: -

No change I think...everyone did their job last week and deserve to stay in the starting 22. 

So i/c:  Charlie Spargo, Dom Tyson, Dean Kent, Mitch Hannan

Edited August 23, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[picket fence 17,516]

8 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The squad is in:

Melbourne squad: round 23

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Jordan Lewis
HB: Christian Salem, Sam Frost, Michael Hibberd
? Angus Brayshaw, Clayton Oliver, James Harmes
HF: Jake Melksham, Tom McDonald, Aaron vandenBerg
F: Bayley Fritsch, Sam Weideman, Alex Neal-Bullen
Foll: Max Gawn, Nathan Jones, Christian Petracca
I/C (from): Charlie Spargo, Dom Tyson, Dean Kent, Mitch Hannan, Cameron Pedersen, Jay Kennedy Harris, Tomas Bugg, Josh Wagner

In: Pedersen, Kennedy Harris, Bugg, Wagner
Out: -

Would be surprised if there were any changes...everyone did their job last week and deserve to stay in the starting 22.  So i/c:  Charlie Spargo, Dom Tyson, Dean Kent, Mitch Hannan

Well would prefer JKH Over Spargo at this stage but …??

[Dee1993 93]

I want bugg in. 

Sorry spargo 

[Lucifers Hero 40,364]

27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Well would prefer JKH Over Spargo at this stage but …??

A 50/50 choice.   After this game someone needs to make way for JV7. 

In the meantime my theory is to keep the team as stable as possible.  Hence opted for Spargo but hey, small diff.

It will be interesting to see where we play JV7 on his return.   Our midfield is ticking along beautifully.  Do we start him in the fwd pocket to give him a feel for the tempo and let Gus and Clarrie continue on their merry way or does he go straight into the middle and who does he displace... ?

Edited August 23, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[Nasher 33,617]

Nothing says “no change” like that ins list. 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

14 minutes ago, Dee1993 said:

I want bugg in. 

Sorry spargo 

This forum needs Thumbs Down emoji functionality ?

[Lord Travis 10,763]

Either no change or Bugg in for Spargo.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,967]

Why would you bring Bugg in when we just beat West Coast in Perth with Spargo playing?  Don’t mess with a team that is well balanced. 

[samcantstandya 1,057]

25 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Well would prefer JKH Over Spargo at this stage but …??

I wouldn't Spargo is a goer JKH is a wimp

[Deemania since 56 6,718]

17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Why would you bring Bugg in when we just beat West Coast in Perth with Spargo playing?  Don’t mess with a team that is well balanced. 

Agreed, and it gives the Spark another full-on game for experience and orientation. 

[beelzebub 23,383]

32 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

A 50/50 choice.   After this game someone needs to make way for JV7. 

In the meantime my theory is to keep the team as stable as possible.  Hence opted for Spargo but hey, small diff.

It will be interesting to see where we play JV7 on his return.   Our midfield is ticking along beautifully.  Do we start him in the fwd pocket to give him a feel for the tempo and let Gus and Clarrie continue on their merry way or does he go straight into the middle and who does he displace... ?

they are  a very different 50 and 50 though. I still much prefer whatever Spargo brings to the game..thats my preference I acknowledge

a very good question LH...where does Viney play.....or at least....start 

[Young Blood 2,634]

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

they are  a very different 50 and 50 though. I still much prefer whatever Spargo brings to the game..thats my preference I acknowledge

a very good question LH...where does Viney play.....or at least....start 

He can only really play mid or wing...

[beelzebub 23,383]

3 minutes ago, Yung Blood said:

He can only really play mid or wing...

hence my questioning ...if in the middle he'll naturally play inside...wings are essentially an outside role which Ive never noted Jack to do ..( thats no criticism, just observation )

it just would concern me that he'd gravitate to the guts...and maybe overload.

[John Demonic 5,850]

8 hours ago, binman said:

Not sure how familiar you are with the g (i naturally assume everyone knows it as well as i do!) but the Ponsfordi is the stand at the city end behind the goals. So you look down the ground.

Most people seem to prefer sitting on the wing (which is why you will almost always get a seat at the top of the ponsford) but as i say i prefer being up high behind the goals.

I often think that in this age of presses and players moving all over the ground the coaches would be better of sitting behind the goals rather than the wing

I watched the 2000 QF up top level Ponsford, that wasn't you getting in a fight in the last with a frustrated Carlton fan was it? Haha. Great memories.

Edited August 23, 2018 by johndemonic

[What 18,810]

49 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Why would you bring Bugg in 

Thats all you needed to ask.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

The Beast will come in for Spargo next round

Right now, no change

[Chook 15,022]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Nothing says “no change” like that ins list. 

Might as well name me on the interchange bench.

[jnrmac 20,189]

55 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Why would you bring Bugg in when we just beat West Coast in Perth with Spargo playing?  Don’t mess with a team that is well balanced. 

It may be well balanced but they do take note of the oppositions strengths and weaknesses as well as the fact there are players with niggles and injuries. They try to pick teams that will beat the opposition so its not just a case of 'no change'.

[John Demonic 5,850]

1 minute ago, Chook said:

Might as well name me on the interchange bench.

you're named there Jay. 

[Young Blood 2,634]

28 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

hence my questioning ...if in the middle he'll naturally play inside...wings are essentially an outside role which Ive never noted Jack to do ..( thats no criticism, just observation )

it just would concern me that he'd gravitate to the guts...and maybe overload.

Well you've reached the key talking point for the next two weeks after this Sundays game.

Is Viney's return an obvious selection given the teams chemistry at the moment?

Main pro and con in my opinion:

Pro: He is a competitive beast made for finals intensity and physicality. As noted by others the team would generally get more confidence/insperation on the day with Jack putting his 100% into every contest.

Con: From what we've seen so far he only really plays inside mid or as a close tag. The worry is that Brayshaw and Clayton are our key ball winners at the moment around the contest and doing it brilliantly. When Viney came back in earlier in the year he and Oliver were literally bumping heads at contests trying to win the ball. They did eventually build some chemistry and system but then Viney got injured again.

I think he will come back in regardless of what we discuss on here. I hope they can build a rotation where he rests on the wings when Oliver is in the middle or rotates a tag with Harmes.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Yung Blood

[Chook 15,022]

1 minute ago, johndemonic said:

you're named there Jay. 

I'll have you know I was named after Brock McLean. I've never lived it down.