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Frost has been very good in the first half for Casey today.

If Weid isn't ready, surely he is the bloke who can play CHF or CHB and pinch hit in the ruck.

Big, strong and quick, while capable of making a mistake, he is surely better value than Tim Smith at this stage.

I would rather him on the hff than ANB, because at least he has weapons.

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    4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Frost has been very good in the first half for Casey today.

    If Weid isn't ready, surely he is the bloke who can play CHF or CHB and pinch hit in the ruck.

    Big, strong and quick, while capable of making a mistake, he is surely better value than Tim Smith at this stage.

    I would rather him on the hff than ANB, because at least he has weapons.

    I thought ANB murdered Motlop last night

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    3 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

    What a lot of people aren’t  realising is we are lacking run from half back because Hibberd is being forced to defend a y’all due to our small backline 

    That is correct D'lad.  Many are missing this important point.  We hardly have any run as it is.  He is vital at ground level and should not be running back to try and fill a hole against a bigger opponent so often, then having to butter up on the ground attempting to create run also (which surely is his main role).  The obvious selection was Frost for Vince.

    Along with other poor selection decisions/non decisions and some horribly out of form players (one of them Vince!), the defensive line up Goody went with impacted our ability to convert up forward and impacted the final result.

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    Weids and Stretch putting their hands up for consideration but that doesn’t resolve the backline issues. 

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    54 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Frost has been very good in the first half for Casey today.

    If Weid isn't ready, surely he is the bloke who can play CHF or CHB and pinch hit in the ruck.

    Big, strong and quick, while capable of making a mistake, he is surely better value than Tim Smith at this stage.

    I would rather him on the hff than ANB, because at least he has weapons.

    Now nearly 3/4 time and Sam Frost revelling in the chilly conditions.

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    8 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    weideman's kicking action is so smooth - he has his fifth after a lovely mark down low

    six now

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    Sounds like Weed has demanded selection for Tim Smith  

    Have any others? Stretch for ANB or Hannan?

    How has Petty been?  

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    too soon to be talking about next week. 

    we've got nothing to gain from these wins. if we drop it, out of finals. if we win, we continue to be an outside chance to make that 8th spot.

    i'm not looking forward to these 'easy' games. all to lose and a win doesnt tell us anything about fronting up against good teams

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    Irrespective of today, Weideman is going to be a very good AFL player.  He'll come in for Smith.

    I hope Frost isn't selected.  He's a great athlete, but a hopeless decision maker and very average footballer.

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    Out: T.smith, Tyson 

    in: weed, stretch 

    that’s about all I would do at this point maybe a small forward but for who I don’t know 

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    In -        Weideman, JKH, Stretch

    Out -       T Smith,  Lewis, Tyson

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    There's no way Lewis will be dropped. The Weed might get a call up but he has kicked bags before and not followed it up the following week. 

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    I feel for Tim Smith but Weideman can’t not get a recall after kicking 7

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    INS WEEDS, FROST, GARLETT MAYBE STRETCH

    OUTS T SMITH, HARMES, VINCE, AND EITHER PETRACCA OR ANB,

    Work a side outa that mix!?

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    I’d like to see us make changes which address our flaws. 

    We need more tackling/crumbing presence in the foward line so Garlett or Spargo should be looked at. We don’t need both Harmes and ANB, neither of whom perform in big games. 

    Frost has no football IQ. His athleticism gets him picked and his basic, terrible mistakes get him dropped, every time. I guarantee if he is picked the gameday thread will be full of complaints about him turning it over.

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    7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    I’d like to see us make changes which address our flaws. 

    We need more tackling/crumbing presence in the foward line so Garlett or Spargo should be looked at. We don’t need both Harmes and ANB, neither of whom perform in big games. 

    Frost has no football IQ. His athleticism gets him picked and his basic, terrible mistakes get him dropped, every time. I guarantee if he is picked the gameday thread will be full of complaints about him turning it over.

    You obviously didn't see the Casey game today. Frost was easily the best defender & under the shocking conditions had no obvious clangers. He's put his hand up for next week & deserves another chance.

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    Ins. Weideman Frost Stretch Gartlett

    outs. T Smith. Vince. Tyson.  Anb/Trac

    Why ins

    need a big strong back, more crumbing up fwd, more pace and dangerous forward/rotation ruck

     

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    I don’t think there is too much wrong with the backline. Only change is possibly Vince. I think the weed 4 Smith and Garlett 4 ANB. Stretch may be worth a go especially against the saints or dockers. Oh and those talking about dropping Hogan need to see some one in a white coat.

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    19 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Ins. Weideman Frost Stretch Gartlett

    outs. T Smith. Vince. Tyson.  Anb/Trac

    Why ins

    need a big strong back, more crumbing up fwd, more pace and dangerous forward/rotation ruck

     

    IIRC weid takes marks or brings to ground and kicking is sublime. And he attacks opponents .... unlike someone else

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    there's no way lewis is being dropped, and i'd doubt vince will either

    anb completely blanketed motlop out of the game, but didn't make the most of his opportunities up forward, and harmes kept running and kept presenting

    if we do choose to bring in another tall back, our whole defensive structure is messed with, no matter who rotates out

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