Post Match Discussion - Round 14

[buck_nekkid 5,880]

Just watched Goodies presser.  Top notch.  Asked about the free kicks - turned it back with ‘what did you guys think?’  Perfect for the journos to say one sided and avoid a fine.  Strong, positive messaging and you can see where we are headed.  Yes, we lost.  But Goody says it is a game built on behaviours and the behaviours we displayed will bring plenty of wins.  

[deanox 9,944]

5 hours ago, Dr.D said:

i wish our coach was like the scott brothers or hardwick. they're coaches that state their displeasures with the umpiring. i'm gonne spew if i hear goodwin say 'i thought port were great tonight', 'its a game of small margins'. he should be up in arms about the umpiring. they should be named and shamed.

So you want him to be a petulant sook and get himself fined just so you can feel good that he complained about the umpiring publicly?

 

I am not happy with the umpiring standard but public winging doesn't help and I don't like the Scott brothers. 

[Gorgoroth 12,972]

9 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

We had 'em.  We fair dinkum had 'em in that third term.  When Salem kicked that goal to put us 20 points up I really thought we could keep it going.  Even when they kicked a couple and we got one back, I thought we could keep them at bay.

And we just couldn't do it.  For all of our dominance, and I believe we were the better side on the night (yes, I know, smash me for it, I don't give a stuff), our conversion inside 50 sucked and it lost us the game.  We moved it too slowly, or missed a target, or just bombed away and it hurt us.  I thought we had rectified it in the third term but then we kicked only 1 of the next 7 goals and we lose the game.  Heartbreaking stuff.

Full credit to our backline who many believed would be undersized and outmatched - that really wasn't the case at all and shows we made the right decision in terms of selection and the players we used through there.  Our midfield rectified the clearance problem against the best clearance side in the comp, yet we couldn't capitalise often enough to take advantage of it.

We have a huge 3 weeks to get things right - we simply cannot lose any of the next 3 games against sides we should most certainly be defeating.  No excuses there.

I'm pretty deflated and disappointed with the outcome but, at the same time, happy to see us respond in a positive fashion after the debacle of Queen's Birthday.  

Keep your chin up everyone, if you can.

Mostly my thoughts too.

yes the umps killed us in the last, that free against Melksham was so bad the umpire should be dropped, if not shot. 

But, as we have done too often, we blindly bomb it in and shoot our selves in the foot. We still have not learnt how to control the chaos around us and remain semi calm like good teams do, even when frantic they are in control and choose good options.

9 hours ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

When the going gets tough, everyone is looking around for someone to take charge, sadly no one ever does......

Viney tried and I thought did ok, Jones sadly didn’t again.

9 minutes ago, McQueen said:

In the virgin lounge with pretty much all afl media. BT and Hamish sitting beside me... any questions I should ask?

Ask Hamish why his brother is a bigger [censored] than he is.

[McQueen 17,865]

3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Mostly my thoughts too.

yes the umps killed us in the last, that free against Melksham was so bad the umpire should be dropped, if not shot. 

But, as we have done too often, we blindly bomb it in and shoot our selves in the foot. We still have not learnt how to control the chaos around us and remain semi calm like good teams do, even when frantic they are in control and choose good options.

Viney tried and I thought did ok, Jones sadly didn’t again.

Ask Hamish why his brother is a bigger [censored] than he is.

He said he’s not. 

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Just now, McQueen said:

He said he’s not. 

Ask him when we will get accountability around umpires and when can we reduce the subjectivity of decisions. They contributed to our loss

[McQueen 17,865]

Harry Petty and Spargo here now.. no sign of last nights team.

Anyway, back to Perf.

[chook fowler 19,459]

Sometimes I hate being a Demons tragic and last night was like that because we should have won the game by half time. We smashed them in the clearances and in the forward 50s but couldn’t convert. 

And then there were the pathetic umpires who let the crowd pay the free kicks. I am sick of interstate clubs getting such an advantage and the afl refusing to do anything about it. 

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Can't.Stop.Refreshing.Thread

[CityDee 738]

8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We matched/bettered them for intensity. We just didn't have the polish, too many fumbles, too many kicks to Ports advantage too many players fighting over the same footy, too many players not taking their opportunities going forward etc. We should've won by 5 goals, that bloody hurts.

Yeah it does hurt and your right should have been 5 goals up , the hit on Tmac and powell peppers antics where a little more willing than what we put up but im proud , Nev omg .

umpires hurt us also

[Deemania since 56 6,659]

9 hours ago, D4Life said:

There’s not many games that the umpires really impact!

But they absolutely screwed the Demons tonight!

We have all noticed this trend in the past 3 years, getting worse each game.

Unaccountability and bias from the umpires struck once again and although not part of the game last night against Port, the Razor effect of celebrity umpiring just to be seen to be a key factor and centre of attention in a game of football - whatever the cost in terms of the millions of dollars so involved from clubs - is now endemic across the fraternity of white. 

The allegiances of umpires to clubs and selected clubs winning games by any means is not all - this trend has to be encouraged by the AFL via the umpires for its 'entertainment value' and the massing of crowds with large supporter base interests for dollars through the turnstiles. No respectable sporting umpire would participate in this fraud, otherwise.  

This rubbery and conditioned corruption is also prevaricated (following a set plan for the fixture itself, for the weekly and finals series attendances, and in the pursuit of AFL-led allegiances to specific clubs and the horribly incorrect interpretations undertaken with regards to rules, regulations and the miasma of vested interest). Anything is possible in football today for the incremental massing of the 4 points per game for flavour-teams-of-monetary-interest. 

In essence, the game has reached an irreversible level of corruption with the total consent of the AFL in partnership with influential clubs.

We see wilful and incorrect decision-making at the singular club level continuously in a season - with umpires and players powerless to right the wrongs of its effects. The public are treated as fools lost in their own dignity of expectation to assume that all's fair and well with our national game. 

Port Adelaide has a reasonably large captive supporter base that is just manic enough to attend finals series in droves where that Club is involved. Great for the economic justification of cheating and taking advantage of such casual 'official' assistance. That club lost the game last night, despite the scoreboard. Just as the fortunes of the Crows have been so assisted in recent times for the same, core, influential, complicity.

Annointed players and teams look good as if they were competitively playing well when an insurance policy payout is quietly known to be affected in their favour from '...those who absolutely control the outcomes of any specific game - the umpires...' and once again, the dirt is swept under the carpet to be hidden from the eyes of the egalitarian fans of the game. Brown paper bagging on a grander scale than one or two dubious decisions in any one game.  

It is increasingly difficult for one to accept such a corrupt outcome year after year, match after match, finals entitlements after finals entitlements within our game and not conclude that it is all a 'set-up' unworthy of our future involvement and support.  

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

21 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Harry Petty and Spargo here now.. no sign of last nights team.

Anyway, back to Perf.

Wish Petty good luck on his debut next week. 

[JV7 2,351]

9 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

We had 'em.  We fair dinkum had 'em in that third term.  When Salem kicked that goal to put us 20 points up I really thought we could keep it going.  Even when they kicked a couple and we got one back, I thought we could keep them at bay.

And we just couldn't do it.  For all of our dominance, and I believe we were the better side on the night (yes, I know, smash me for it, I don't give a stuff), our conversion inside 50 sucked and it lost us the game.  We moved it too slowly, or missed a target, or just bombed away and it hurt us.  I thought we had rectified it in the third term but then we kicked only 1 of the next 7 goals and we lose the game.  Heartbreaking stuff.

Full credit to our backline who many believed would be undersized and outmatched - that really wasn't the case at all and shows we made the right decision in terms of selection and the players we used through there.  Our midfield rectified the clearance problem against the best clearance side in the comp, yet we couldn't capitalise often enough to take advantage of it.

We have a huge 3 weeks to get things right - we simply cannot lose any of the next 3 games against sides we should most certainly be defeating.  No excuses there.

I'm pretty deflated and disappointed with the outcome but, at the same time, happy to see us respond in a positive fashion after the debacle of Queen's Birthday.  

Keep your chin up everyone, if you can.

Thank you WB.  My thoughts exactly... We out played them for majority of the game & like they said on the broadcast if you look at the stats you'd have thought Melbourne had of won by a few goals. Goodwin was pretty much in the same boat, happy with how we played but efficiency inside 50 is what cost us.

My thoughts & expectations of this side haven't changed after last night's performance. As I said we outplayed a fellow top 4 & premiership contender ln their turf on the big stage, we did everything but take the 4 points. I'm annoyed we lost but I know this side is around the mark. People saying we failed on a Friday night etc. need to seriously take the positives out of it & look at the bigger picture, we win the next 3 & we are 11-5. Lose one of them & then we can all start saying we've [censored] the bed.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

10 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Umpiring a disgrace.

Harmes killed all our momentum in the third quarter when he decided to go and hit a number of Port Adelaide players on the [censored].

Lewis cooked.

Tyson cooked.

Fumbles.

Umpiring a disgrace.

Oscar is nothing without Lever.

Melksham and Tom McDonald couldn't buy a free kick.

Hogan went missing.

Jetta is a star.

 

[Adzman 2,154]

I woke up angry. I stayed off here last night because my blood was boiling, and didn't want to offend my demon brethren. This one annoyed me more than the Hawks and Pies loss. We dominated and still lost!!!???!

We pay superstar dollars but don't get superstar performances from our big names on the big stage.

So very angry about this one.

[chook fowler 19,459]

Hard to believe now that the loss of Lever hasn’t been a season killer.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

What hurts the most is we actually smashed them 

[KLV 1,765]

Ashley Porter gives a fair summary in the age this morning. And I feel the better for reading it. It was an intense, high quality game and we will learn from it.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/power-beat-demons-in-epic-arm-wrestle-20180622-p4zn82.html

[shorty 233]

Woke up angry at 3am,  seriously can't believe how we lose that game, more inside 50 than points.  Yes the umpiring was crap, but we dominated them and still lost. Happy to say we are not top 4, we simply don't have the polish, we have too many players who are 50:50 in front of goals.

Something needs to be done with Petracca, he is going backwards.

I thought we missed GARLETT last night we could have exposed them for pace.

Don't know how many times two players fighting for the same ground ball.

Tyson is done, I feel for him he did alot of the heavy lifting in the past.

Our glaring defiency still remains outside class, don't worry about the backline when you dominate in the middle.

 

Edited June 22, 2018 by shorty

[Demonsone 2,042]

Missed opportunities going fwd & needed to lower the eyes ..  

Umpiring a disgrace just listen to Goodwin presser...

no question on intensity & effort but needed a Garlet tonite  & not sure why he’s not playing 

[picket fence 17,181]

26 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Umpiring a disgrace.

Harmes killed all our momentum in the third quarter when he decided to go and hit a number of Port Adelaide players on the [censored].

Lewis cooked.

Tyson cooked.

Fumbles.

Umpiring a disgrace.

Oscar is nothing without Lever.

Melksham and Tom McDonald couldn't buy a free kick.

Hogan went missing.

Jetta is a star.

And again Viney , one trick pony! gets it first instinct is break a tackle, then just bomb it anywhere. Possesions count for zilch if you don't use the footy well which he doesn't!

Agree with above but for the life of me how many times has the ball hit the ground in dangerous places the last 4 weeks and No crumber??

Jeff Garlett simply has to play!

Edited June 22, 2018 by picket fence

[picket fence 17,181]

27 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

 

AND ADD PETRACCA as well not good enough last couple of weeks

Edited June 22, 2018 by picket fence

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

Our backline , especially the deeper backs, certainly didn't hold up.  Port went inside 50 only 39 times, normally under pressure from our mids. They had an efficiency inside 50 of 62%, way above the average which across the comp sits very close to 50%.  

[drysdale demon 4,837]

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

And again Viney , one trick pony! gets it first instinct is break a tackle, then just bomb it anywhere. Possesions count for zilch if you don't use the footy well which he doesn't!

Agree with above but for the life of me how many times has the ball hit the ground in dangerous places the last 4 weeks and No crumber??

Jeff Garlett simply has to play!

Like repeating yourself do you ?

[Deemented Are Go! 3,684]

It’s gonna be a looooong 8 days 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Like repeating yourself do you ?

Do you actually discuss and talk about the club, or just take pot shots at posters? It would be nice to see if you're capable of something other than being that whiny kid in the playground that nobody likes. I don't think I've seen you do anything but have a go at other posters. It's getting boring.