Post Match Discussion - Round 14

[picket fence 17,169]

Just now, fattysback said:

I thought that the umpiring was fair and we played really well and we just couldn't finish it off.

Thats what I thought. 

There's always next week.

Who gives a stuff about next week we are NOT UP TO IT !!!! NEXT!

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

3 blokes going out with bleeding from mouth/head in the last quarter. It would have been a miracle to hold on with shite like that going on. Enough umpire comments have been made so I won’t even bother. 

It just hurts, this game should have been over at half time. Time to play natural footballers, like Petty, Garlett. 

To those saying Oscar was horrible, WTF? The fifties against him? @ ridiculous. He was in the air both times the Port players marked the ball. What the fluck do you want the guy to do?

We dominated just about everything with so many players ineffectual. 

Oh yeah....Fritsch is special..pity he missed that snap in the last. 

Gutted....that’s all!

 

 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Just now, jumbo returns said:

Bloody hell!

That was a tough, tough game!

So proud of this team tonight 

Proud of another loss on the big stage? Yeah, nah.

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

anyone who constantly calls for lewis and vince to be dropped doesn't understand how important the roles they play are for the side and we have no one else who can play their role available

people say 'jones / brayshaw / player x' can rotate through the half-back line but we are so much better off with them in the guts

i have no issues with petracca - it was bloody tough for forwards out there tonight, and everyone who thinks he's going to have a 'break out' game needs to understand he's probably always going to be a 15-25 possession, 4-7 marks, 1-3 goal a game player...tonight he had 17, 6 and 1 straight - more possessions than any other nominal forward

hogan looks completed out of sorts

Edited June 22, 2018 by whatwhatsaywhat

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,177]

This is the year of beating the teams we should and hopefully sneaking into the final. Next year we must take the next step and take these games . 

[Redleg 40,925]

2 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Bloody hell!

That was a tough, tough game!

So proud of this team tonight 

Me too. 

[deanox 9,922]

10 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Interested to hear goodys presser.

On mmm they said the umps went backwards massively in the final term 

@dees189227  What do you mean backwards? At one stage in the last they had paid 9 or 10 straight against us. 

10 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I was at the Dogs game 3 weeks ago and watched Hogan mark absolutely everything and just dominate. Chris Judd said on the following Monday he was the best player in the competition at the present moment.

What has happened in 2 games of football?

@At the break of Gawn 2 weeks ago they brought Pedo in. Hogan was in form when playing with Weid and then Smith. 

[DeeZee 7,395]

Gutted but we will win more tha lose for the rest of the year

Oh, and Viney is back!

[jumbo returns 6,741]

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Proud of another loss on the big stage? Yeah, nah.

Hardest they've played for 2 or 3 years

They emerged tonight

[Knuckles 73]

Thought Lewis really struggled again tonight. His time has probably come, but who comes in. 

We cant forget Port averaged a full season of experience per player more than us. That’s a massive. It showed in the composure throughout. 

Garlett simply has to play next week. It’s obviously every time we play a decent team. Probably could play Spargo as well. 

[SaberFang 7,151]

Who'd have predicted two weeks ago that we could go from being one of only 3 contenders to struggling to stay inside the top 8? Forget about cementing the top 4, this has consecutive disaster years written all over it. 

Sometimes it feels like this team never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Our record for these big stage matches is just horrific, consistently fail to show up. Have we won a single Friday night game in the last 5 years (admittedly we've probably only had a handful of them)?

Edited June 22, 2018 by SaberFang

[Docs Demons 1,791]

You all need to take some pills and leave the umpires alone. Whilst they were ordinary they didn't lose the game for us. WE DID OURSELVES. Never seen a more dominant team for most of the game and lose it. Ollie Wines even mentioned in post match presser with Fox that they stole it. Our forward entries were pathetic and worse still our forwards other than Macca were just as bad. Plenty of soul searching for Trac, Hannan, ANB, Hogan, Harmes plus a few others. They should not be gifted games. Seriously look at Trac and Hogan at Casey next week even if it is to teach them they need to work hard at every contest and actually make a contest for their team mates. 

[picket fence 17,169]

1 minute ago, jumbo returns said:

Hardest they've played for 2 or 3 years

They emerged tonight

Yeah well you might be satisfied but I am LIVID!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

23 minutes ago, Skuit said:

The detractors can shove it. 

That was finals football and we kept up the intensity all night. 

Lost out on some equivalent umpiring calls both ways in the final quarter on opposition turf. 

Super proud of the boys tonight. 

Again, I view this as an important match in our development. 

Edit: Cracking footy match btw. I mentioned in the match thread that I would love to see channel seven's viewership numbers after half-time. I doubt many turned off due to the 'boring' low-scoring match.  

 

 

THIS.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,735]

1 minute ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Check the stats and report back how many contested marks Dixon, westhoff abd Marshall took? I don’t think it aligns with your perception. 

We went inside 50 68 times for 7 marks.

Port went in 39 times for 10 marks. 

Now this is partly because we butchered the ball, but they also have 3 big talls to crash packs in Howard (199cm), Clurey (193cm) & Westhoff (200cm) who plays both ends.

We had Oscar (196cm) and Smith (191). 

I know we will be better as Petty gets older and we get Lever back, but we really need to find another option down back. Joel Smith is just not good enough to play as a second tall.

[dees189227 12,394]

Goodwin presser up next i think

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

The Hogan missed snap with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter was critical. The bloke is on $800k a year and was under no pressure 20m directly in front of goal. An absolute pretender, just like Petracca.

I don't even accept the inside 50 differential  because ours shouldn't be counted as inside 50s. They are junk hacks forward by a midfield bunch always under pressure thanks to a lack of pace and class. It is easily the most unbalanced midfield in the afl.

Goodwin got what he deserved for loading up with guys like Tyson and Harmes at the expense of Spargo, Garlett and even JKH. 

[DeeZee 7,395]

If we had lost by a lot I’d understand some of the comments on here but I really thought we were desperately unlucky to lose. A lot went against us.

The boys gave blood for the team tonight.

I for one are sticking with them.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well you might be satisfied but I am LIVID!

Satisfied in their emergence

Not ONE player took a backward step in a very hostile environment

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

14 minutes ago, DemonWheels said:

Q: If only we had a good quality fast crumbing forward to bring into the side(!) playing at Casey – Could have made the difference with all the bombing inside forward 50?

(A: Garlett)

#SoMelbourne

Garlett's form in VFL has been below average. It's a tough position to get into this side. For all you know Garlett could have kicked 1 goal and been a passenger in a physical game (like he usually is in physical games). This one's not on the coaches. It's on Garlett for showing nothing when the heat was on earlier this year before he was dropped (and since).

13 minutes ago, timbo said:

More fundamentally if the club doesn't ask serious questions -- in the media (wear the fines) -- about the umpiring using specific examples they are not doing their job

 

If they do ask the media, in the media, and get fined... then they're NOT doing their job. They can send please explains to them behind closed doors. For all we know they've been doing it all year. Worked with Maxie after last year. Umpires were shocking, but I give Goody no points for being an amateur.

 

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

4 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Hardest they've played for 2 or 3 years

They emerged tonight

That's great, so what went wrong?

[Brownie 5,981]

34 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Lost that in the first half with so much wasted opportunity. We had them complete on toast but persisted with the long bomb inside 50 to a pack of 10 players system which NEVER works for us. Just dumb footy.

umpiring sucked bad but we lost that ourselves

Totally agree. Should have smashed them in the first half. Our long bombs cost us. The game.

Umps were a disgrace and this was the worst result of the year for me. We had the top 4 spot right there.

Jetta TMAC and Viney were inspirational. 

Not sure why we dropped Spargos for Tyson

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,177]

3 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

We went inside 50 68 times for 7 marks.

Port went in 39 times for 10 marks. 

Now this is partly because we butchered the ball, but they also have 3 big talls to crash packs in Howard (199cm), Clurey (193cm) & Westhoff (200cm) who plays both ends.

We had Oscar (196cm) and Smith (191). 

I know we will be better as Petty gets older and we get Lever back, but we really need to find another option down back. Joel Smith is just not good enough to play as a second tall.

The ten marks were all in 50 to their talls  were they? You story is not stacking up my friend. 

Edited June 22, 2018 by big_red_fire_engine

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Just now, FireInTheBelly said:

That's great, so what went wrong?

Composure

[Go the Biff 3,423]

Effort fine

Umpiring deplorable

Unfortunately we'll never be more than a run of the mill side until our forwards get separation from each other and our mids start looking for targets. Bombing it in to a clump of forwards continuously is playing into the defenders hands. Surely this can't be the way our coaching staff train the team to play

Even more disappointing, our two captains lead the charge of usual suspects in this department. Dumb. So dumb.

We should have had the game in our keeping at half time