5 minutes ago, Wunders said:

I actually thought Frost played well and i know he can be a bit meh at times, but i actually like the look of our backline a lot more now that hes in (i.e. since Lever went down i haven't liked it). I'd happily play him the rest of the year. 

Yes but that was against Freo in Darwin.  not a high reference.  I think he (Frost) can play the wing role, from TMc.

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I have faith in experience. The season is tight. We need as much experience as we can get for the next 7 weeks

Our Captains don’t have it. Lewis does

That's the whole point, mate he's 32+yrs old...   we'll need him thru August and September.  His body has had a real workover for 14 years.

We are about to enter some big games, and then finals.

36 minutes ago, DV8 said:

We are limping now since Lever went down.

We entered the season limping with regard to TMc and Viney...  when all those 3 got together, we hit our straps.  Then Lever went down.

We have been battling to find something that will work  at half back since that time.  Since then Oscar started to struggle a bit and Harry Petty experiment didn't workout.

 

So to imply we are traveling well,,, and we should not take any risks now, in July, is crazy.

Now is the time to try to get that back pivot sorted out, as best we can.

 

Personally myself I would bite he bullet and send TMc back to CHB for this year, and play Hogan & Weide, up forward, and Pedo where required.

 

Is agree we are limping and never ever said we are ok. I think we're a good chance to miss finals

i just don't think we should be experimenting on the premise we will be playing finals

 

but that's ok we don't agree.?

Edited July 10, 20186 yr by timbo

50 minutes ago, timbo said:

Is agree we are limping and never ever said we are ok. I think we're a good chance to miss finals

i just don't think we should be experimenting on the premise we will be playing finals

 

but that's ok we don't agree.?

To win big games timbo, and to win finals matches, you have to have a mental attitude to take it on, to take your chances, conservative doesn't cut it in Finals.

We have to put it all on the line, and back that right up,,, for keeps.

 

Playing safe is a strong reason to not get there.

Thanks for the couple of years mate...

The experience you have brought to the club has been invaluable but now is the time.

...we need to move on and develop the list now.

He was horrible. But so was the rest of the team. 

He shouldn’t be a walk up start next year, but neither should Jones - who had a worse September than Jordan...

We got shown up between the ears today across the board. To lay it at the feet of the easy targets is a trap we should avoid.

34 minutes ago, rjay said:

Thanks for the couple of years mate...

The experience you have brought to the club has been invaluable but now is the time.

...we need to move on and develop the list now.

Agree. He was horrible today and made some basic skill errors.

5 minutes ago, rpfc said:

He was horrible. But so was the rest of the team. 

He shouldn’t be a walk up start next year, but neither should Jones - who had a worse September than Jordan...

We got shown up between the ears today across the board. To lay it at the feet of the easy targets is a trap we should avoid.

I would hope he does the right thing and retires now 'rp'...it's time.

It's not just the poor game, it's the lack of discipline that I can't take from a senior player.

It happens too often, he set a really poor tone in the first quarter when he should have been rallying the boys.

...as I say, I reckon he's been invaluable around the club for the couple of years we've had him but time is up now.

We'll find a coaching role for you.

The entire team was horrible. Yeah, Lewis had a shocker but he was excellent in the last two weeks. Overreaction. 

I agree that he should retire. 

Not just based on today's poor showing.

Football is a young man's game. He's too slow.

2 minutes ago, bingers said:

I agree that he should retire. 

Not just based on today's poor showing.

Football is a young man's game. He's too slow.

AFL requires one touch players.

He two grabs even simple marks.

 

4 minutes ago, bingers said:

I agree that he should retire. 

Not just based on today's poor showing.

Football is a young man's game. He's too slow.

And undisciplined.
 

Not alone. But is also not the future. 

2019 is his last year. 

5 minutes ago, Biffen said:

AFL requires one touch players.

He two grabs even simple marks.

We need to focus now on one touch football

We don't have many who are great at this

Find replacements for Tyson and ANB while at it. They'll never be stars.

Yeah.... sorry Jordy that was a ropeable effort today. 

Put him into some coaching role.

This is a stupid thread.  Why does most of use always blame Jordan Lewis and Nathan Jones they didn't play well but they wern't the worst. Way too big of a overreaction.

Rubbish. Lewis was immense in our two wins. He had a bad day today but so did Gawn and Jones. And many others.

It's time for Lewis & Vince. And the end is coming fast for Jones. 

Experience should get you a steady hand, cool head, decent decision-making, good execution, discipline and leadership.

In that first quarter we got anything but.

We hardly had a winner on the day, but he set the tone and was WOG for mine, when the game was there to be lost.

If he plays next year, we might as well rebuild.

 

 

17 minutes ago, TGR said:

Experience should get you a steady hand, cool head, decent decision-making, good execution, discipline and leadership.

In that first quarter we got anything but.

We hardly had a winner on the day, but he set the tone and was WOG for mine, when the game was there to be lost.

If he plays next year, we might as well rebuild.

 

 

I do value loopy handballs and handballs to intercepts from a 4x premiership player. 

 

Disc: very aware the team as a whole was pus

Nathan Jones needs a new role. He has earned the right to be indulged a bit so long as he contributes and he is not keeping any one out.

His best position is still inside mid to hold the ball in but he is being denied the role.

Maybe others should be trained to play his outside role that is more natural for them. I see Harmes and Brayshaw with the right attributes.

FD better think hard.

Lewis was probably our worst today. So many critical errors at critical times.

But Jones was terrible, Gawn played his worst game for the year, Oliver was poor and possibly also played his worst game for the year, TMac was unsighted.

Both Lewis and Jones are coming to the end and it's going to be interesting to see what we do with them in 2019.

Played some decent games towards the end of the year but cracks started to open in the final term against the Hawks and they busted wide open against the Eagles.

Coaching or media role surely beckons.