4 hours ago, brendan said:

What has happened to the dogs, such a massive fall from grace, it’s like they thought bang we won a flag that will do us for another 50 years 

I think they all started to drink one another's dirty bathwater last year, because the whole place seems toxic.

It could be all over, for red-rover ?

Port beat Sydney, in Sydney, in Round 1 last year. It was their only win, all year, against a top 8 side.

Will be interesting to see if they can beat any other decent side in the remaining 20 rounds.

3 hours ago, praha said:

So both Port and Melbourne had a somewhat ineffective forward this weekend. Is that your point?

Yes. 

 

Edit: That was exactly my point, both Watts and Pederson played their role for the team without hitting the scoreboard or dominating the game. In modern footy having a 2nd or third tall forward who contests, sets their teammates up and tackles can be enough. I thought those in this thread who were having a crack at Jack for being a “downhill skier” or being “quiet”, were being unfair and clearly didn’t see the role he played in a great win. I used a Melbourne player who plays a similar role to the one Jack plays at Port (and did play at Melbourne) for comparison.

3 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Though he didn't set the world on fire, I thought Pederson still did some good stuff.  A few of his passes into the forward line to Jessy Hogan were spot on.  Though I don't really recall him clunking many yesterday, he provided a pretty good aerial contest.  Hogan and Jeffy were on fire and were very enjoyable to watch.

Couldn't care less how that other bloke played for Port, any more than any other player in the league.  It's done move on.

Go DEMONS.

I don’t have a problem with Pederson, my point was even though he had low numbers he played a role for the team in a win just like Watts did, I’m not bagging him. 

As for talking about a bloke from another club, this is the thread dedicated to non-MFC games, there’s going to be a lot of talking about players from other clubs in here, I suggest you get over it.

Go Demons!

Have to admire Hinkley's great coaching yesterday! 

Even when they were being outplayed, he held his nerve by keeping a kid (Dougal Howard) with 12 games experience against Buddy for the whole game.  He kept another kid (Tod Marshall) with 4 games experience in the forward line who rewarded his coach with 3 goals.

He then got creative and made some matching winning moves.  Instead of being defensive and put players behind the ball he did the opposite and made really attacking moves:  Dixon in the ruck, Boake forward which allowed Vines to come into the game.  Hinkley decided to 'go small' to open up his forward line and it worked. 

A very refreshing change to the somewhat 'automatic' defensive strategies coaching boxes employ when the momentum is against them. 

That was a very good game.

Imagine nabbing Ollie Wines at the end of the year!!

Its quite baffling to read all the media going on about Geelong's 'holy trinity' midfield.  They are all 'star struck' or desperate for 'click bait'!  Have they not noticed that Clarkson's midfield is none too shabby with Mitchell and O'Meara?  I bet Chris Scott has!

It will be fascinating to watch; not just the game itself but also how two mastermind coaches play their cards. 

11 hours ago, DV8 said:

of course i have when I was younger and fearful; and I regret them now.  Nothing is as good as being honest with the ones you Love.

Lies are just further deception.

And the poorer our society is with them... white lies, black lies, yellow lies, little, big, politically correct ones, all the same.  Deception. 

It destroys trust amongst all people. relationships. 

Remember this old  beaut.......  White Man speak with Forked Tougue.

 

Forked Tongue is a good analogy, because if its Serpents in our Society we want, we're getting our wish.  Not a very good place to bring up kids in, these days.

 

I will not sacrifice integrity now, for anything.   Life hurts, its painful at times.  But lies weaken all of us, & the things that bond us all together.

And therein lies the crux of the matter.  Experience is a great teacher... but you learn nothing without going through those experiences (that is essentially what you are saying above).  Give the kid a break (pun not intended).

12 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Though he didn't set the world on fire, I thought Pederson still did some good stuff.  A few of his passes into the forward line to Jessy Hogan were spot on.  Though I don't really recall him clunking many yesterday, he provided a pretty good aerial contest.  Hogan and Jeffy were on fire and were very enjoyable to watch.

Couldn't care less how that other bloke played for Port, any more than any other player in the league.  It's done move on.

Go DEMONS.

Agreed.  Pedersen busts packs and pressures opposition players and by doing so creates many loose ball opportunities.  A low possession count does not tell the whole story as far as he is concerned. 

17 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

They drank it all last season. There’s something else going on there this year I feel. Has the coach lost the players?

They’re just not very good. Won a flag off the back of some very good pressure football but have since lost several key players.

What’s their development programs like? They’ve got Boyd and Shache, number 1 and 2 draft pick key forwards running around in the Magoo’s.

A few cultural issues of late would’ve set them backwards too no doubt but I don’t think Bevo is the catalyst or to blame for any of that.

 

22 minutes ago, McQueen said:

They’re just not very good. Won a flag off the back of some very good pressure football but have since lost several key players.

What’s their development programs like? They’ve got Boyd and Shache, number 1 and 2 draft pick key forwards running around in the Magoo’s.

A few cultural issues of late would’ve set them backwards too no doubt but I don’t think Bevo is the catalyst or to blame for any of that.

 the non stop manic running and pressure for 100 minutes of their flag year raises questions of whether they were on some sort of juice

they've been a shadow of themselves since the flag. and it's not just injuries, they had heaps of injuries during their flag year

or is it just premiership hangover......hmmm

17 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

They drank it all last season. There’s something else going on there this year I feel. Has the coach lost the players?

The comparison to the dogs and lester city are identical, stringer is Lester's vardy. Two  bottom of the road sides tasting success and then drinking their own bath water.

Bevo lost the players last year, if it was the EPL he would be gone, bevo tasted success early, everyone was saying what a genius he is, just by it was  McCartney's team that he built, that went on to win the flag, and now this is bevo's team.

Hard on the television to see running patterns but on at least two occasions WCE had three players running into goal without a Bulldogs opponent.

Okay I understand getting caught on the turnover etc but it smacks of over commitment when you let three or more opposition players run back against you.

Interested to hear from the tacticians their thoughts on this play.

Went along to see GWS v Collingwood on Saturday. GWS were the better side from a skills perspective but just couldn't get their total game going. In a radio interview Pendlebury said that they knew the Giants were a high looping handball side which gives the opposition a chance to spoil

All this ‘Dangerwoodlett’ crap has me getting behind the Hawks today which makes me feel quite dirty.

Anyone else have a similar sentiment?

How are we going to get rid of BT?

its a disaster to my AFL watching experience. 

3 minutes ago, McQueen said:

All this ‘Dangerwoodlett’ crap has me getting behind the Hawks today which makes me feel quite dirty.

Anyone else have a similar sentiment?

Get a grip on yourself. There's plenty of hate to go around. No one needs to miss out.

If I hear the “holy trinity” used one more time, I’m gonna...

15 minutes ago, hells bells said:

How are we going to get rid of BT?

"Volume control"

That duck was like slow motion , so premeditated. Don’t blame Sicily for cuttin’ sik 

25 minutes ago, hells bells said:

How are we going to get rid of BT?

its a disaster to my AFL watching experience. 

I've heard more adult maturity on Play School. "He kicks a ba-na-na-na-na!!"

Ch 7 must surely be taking the pizz thinking he adds value to $2bill, or whatever they paid the AFL

I hate to say it but Hawthorn are looking pretty good. Lets see if they can last the whole game.

Geelong have done something really wrong along the way for me to be passionately barracking for Hawthorn. 

40 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Get a grip on yourself. There's plenty of hate to go around. No one needs to miss out.

Selwood ducking just emphasised my thoughts.

I wonder if the Saints are watching this standard of footy and thinking wtf is this?

Burgoyne hammy.  Handy if he misses a couple of weeks.