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TERRY WALLACE’S MELBOURNE STARTING 18

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Michael Hibberd

HB: Jayden Hunt, Jake Lever, Angus Brayshaw

C: Bernie Vince, Nathan Jones, James Harmes

HF: Mitch Hannan, Sam Weidemann, Christian Petracca

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Tom McDonald

R: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Jack Viney

 
28 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Just listened to the segment. I thought Wallace was absolutely spot on, but for some slightly curious inclusions and omissions in the best 22.

Interesting that he said 'Jack Watts? I personally would've kept him, but it won't hurt the club long term'. Despite the 1 billion posts on that topic here, I think that pretty well sums up that trade perfectly.

 

Spot on...nor the short term either...

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

Melk was brilliant in his new forward role.  Was a masterstroke from the coaching staff. He even has the 6th longest steak in the AFL for consecutive games kicking a goal (12 games).

Porterhouse?

 

Wallace at least confirms that there is a 'silly' season and we must assume that pre-season is that moment. Even the Ox was a little flabbergasted by Wallace's selections. Weidemann at CHF - what a misaligned judgement! Oscar at fullback again would be criminal.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

TERRY WALLACE’S MELBOURNE STARTING 18

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Michael Hibberd

HB: Jayden Hunt, Jake Lever, Angus Brayshaw

C: Bernie Vince, Nathan Jones, James Harmes

HF: Mitch Hannan, Sam Weidemann, Christian Petracca

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Tom McDonald

R: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Jack Viney

In - Pedo, ANB

Out - Weidemann, Harmes

I'd expect an interchange of Melksham, Salem, Lewis and Tyson.

 

Other than that, it's a pretty strong team.


I love Bernie but he will have to have a big preseason to earn his spot in the 18.  he has lost a yard but mostly his decision making has taken a hit which is mostly a mental issue.

i have him between 19-26 spot at the moment

Would love to know the basis for the inclusion of Weideman.

Let's be honest he has shown little at VFL level and the jury is firmly out as to whether he will make it.

What worries me is that a so called "expert" is so ignorant of our players strengths and weaknesses. Suggests that we are very low profile.

15 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I can’t see where we’ll lose a game. 

Norf?

 

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

17 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Would love to know the basis for the inclusion of Weideman.

Let's be honest he has shown little at VFL level and the jury is firmly out as to whether he will make it.

What worries me is that a so called "expert" is so ignorant of our players strengths and weaknesses. Suggests that we are very low profile.

Nah...Terry often says himself that the fans usually know more about their own club than he and other experts do.

Mainly because we watch and take in every little detail.

He has to cover off 18 clubs, I wouldn't take it as a slight on our club or profile...

 


23 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Would love to know the basis for the inclusion of Weideman.

Let's be honest he has shown little at VFL level and the jury is firmly out as to whether he will make it.

What worries me is that a so called "expert" is so ignorant of our players strengths and weaknesses. Suggests that we are very low profile.

 

6 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

How on earth can there be so much discrepancy .... :rolleyes:

I think the 22 they have named is out dated. I think the days of three talls up forward are probably gone unless they are super mobile. 

 

Id say tommy and hogan are our key targets while fit and weid will eventually reach the point of pushing for a spot. It shouldn’t and won’t be gifted. 

 

Alex Neal Bullen will be one of the first picked for the side

 

i agree with Lewis and dom Tyson being right on the fringe. I suspect both play round one but need to play well to stay in the side 

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

TERRY WALLACE’S MELBOURNE STARTING 18

B: Neville Jetta, Oscar McDonald, Michael Hibberd

HB: Jayden Hunt, Jake Lever, Angus Brayshaw

C: Bernie Vince, Nathan Jones, James Harmes

HF: Mitch Hannan, Sam Weidemann, Christian Petracca

F: Jeff Garlett, Jesse Hogan, Tom McDonald

R: Max Gawn, Clayton Oliver, Jack Viney

Starting to look like a bit of a decent side ‘ on paper’ and if they all play to their best we are a show, although I haven’t seen much from Weideman yet.

 

 

 

 

16 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I can’t see where we’ll lose a game. 

Don't tell me ET, you know the maggots we're going to get for the whole year......

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

How much gym work (both cardio and weights) is he doing? Watching him last year, he makes an effort to do the one percenters off the ball but can’t take pack marks due to lack of muscle and can’t get to contests ala Riewoldt because he hasn’t developed the tank yet.

I could see him potentially in the 22 but on a flank or in a pocket. Body wise he has work to do.


Its taking a lot of people a long time to realise Hogan plays best at CHF

9 hours ago, Skuit said:

I'm going to take your word for it but this stat sounds rather iffy.

I double checked it, yep.

Not only did he kick a goal in every game from round 12 on, but he kicked 2 goals or 3 goals three times each!

21 goals in 12 games is a pretty handy contribution!

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10 hours ago, Skuit said:

I'm going to take your word for it but this stat sounds rather iffy.

The stat is correct but it is for Current Players not All Time.

Consecutive Games Kicking A Goal
Games Player Teams Period Games Current Player Teams Period
121 Peter McKenna CW,CA 1968-1974 42 Josh Kennedy CA,WC 2016-2017
114 Tony Lockett SK,SY 1993-2002 38 Joe Daniher ES 2016-2017
98 Gordon Coventry CW 1932-1937 29 Jack Riewoldt RI 2016-2017
97 Dick Lee CW 1910-1918 25 Taylor Walker AD 2016-2017
90 Doug Wade GE,NM 1971-1975 14 Peter Wright GC 2017-
80 Bill Mohr SK 1933-1938 12 Charlie Dixon GC,PA 2017-
79 Mark Jackson ME,SK,GE 1981-1985 12 Jake Melksham ES,ME 2017-
78 Jack Moriarty ES,FI 1924-1929 11 Charlie Curnow CA 2017-
78 Kelvin Templeton FO,ME 1976-1981 10 Levi Casboult CA 2017-
77 Sel Murray NM,RI 1940-1948 10 Cale Hooker ES 2017-
75 Simon Beasley FO 1985-1989 10 Jesse White SY,CW 2016-2017
72 Jason Dunstall HW 1987-1990 9 Tim Membrey SY,SK 2017-
71 Lance Franklin HW,SY 2006-2009 8 Dayne Zorko BL 2017-
70 Matthew Lloyd ES 1999-2002 7 Jarrad Waite CA,NM 2017-
7 hours ago, ProDee said:

I've been reliably told that they're planning their preseason around Weideman in the 22.

Obviously things can change and it will be dependent on form, JLT, etc., but the plan is for Weideman to be in the team.

An optimistic plan I would think.

However, as I posted on another thread, Weideman is a real wild card, If he comes on, our forward structures have a new flexibility and will be very difficult to man up on.

The pre season will be interesting.

6 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

An optimistic plan I would think.

However, as I posted on another thread, Weideman is a real wild card, If he comes on, our forward structures have a new flexibility and will be very difficult to man up on.

The pre season will be interesting.

Weideman, Hogan and McDonald all forward doesn't work for me.  And I have reservations about Weideman, but clearly they rate him internally.


Having made the decision to recruit him [Weideman] it would be difficult not to keep persisting with him - but it is most likely that the development he needs to make as a forward for us can only be gained with specific training and Casey time of an extended duration to be mirrored in his performance.

I can't see one of Hogan or T Mac playing in the forward pocket to allow Weideman to play CHF.

Surely it's Hogan as FF and T Mac as CHF (or vice versa) before Weideman as CHF.

 

11 hours ago, The Chazz said:

In - Pedo, ANB

Out - Weidemann, Harmes

I'd expect an interchange of Melksham, Salem, Lewis and Tyson.

 

Other than that, it's a pretty strong team.

It's strong, but is it fast enough?

 

no such thing these days as a starting 18. it's a starting 22

you only have to look at who starts on the bench each game, and the time on ground % of each player to realise it's a starting 22

wallace needs to get out of the past

10 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

An optimistic plan I would think.

However, as I posted on another thread, Weideman is a real wild card, If he comes on, our forward structures have a new flexibility and will be very difficult to man up on.

The pre season will be interesting.

Agreed, but if he comes on do all 3 of him Hogan and TMac play foward?

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Hogan roam up on a wing and float foward a bit like Watts' best games, imagine trying to match up on that? 

Levercutting off fowa d entries for fun, Hibberd and Hunt playing off their man with Hogan and Petracca delivering long 1-1 to TMac or Weid


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