Too slow and cumbersome to play forward these days. I'd take him on the list as a back up ruck but I wouldn't trade a good pick or pay the cash for him. 

If we can have him for a 3rd round pick on 300k a year for 2 years then he'd be a handy player at Casey and come in to the side if Max was injured.

There's a kid, I forget who he plays for. Young developing tall forward, pretty mobile, doesn't yet have the body strength to really be a full key position player. But if he gets another preseason into him, works on his fitness, he'd be a really handy long-term option to fill the gap left by Watts while also maturing into a great key forward pairing with Hogan. He's probably worth a top-10 pick, we should get him.

I would be sad to see Watts go, from an emotional attachment perspective, but, when I thought about our structures 'post-Watts' suddenly the writing on the wall appeared. Watts doesn't quite fill any given 'team role' and in that situation you have to really be outstanding at what you do, to hold your place.

Personally I think the next evolution of forward lines will be a 2xCHF set up where both spend almost the whole game on the field, alternating roles between long leads and target closer to goal, to allow for recovery from the different types of efforts. The rest of the 'forwards' are really just midfielders who worked hard to get to the spot first. I didn't think the Demons would be able to do it with their list, but with Garlett proving he can work up the ground, Watts (the 3rd tall, even when he's the second tall) leaving, and our overall large number of medium or small forward-midfielders or midfielder-forwards (Hannan, Kent, Kennedy, Neal-Bullen, Vandenberg, Petracca, Brayshaw, Harmes) I think it can all fit together.

Hmm, I've just used a lot of words to say "Oh hell no not Tippet, I'd rather get nothing than get Tippet".

3 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

 Could make sense, if Tippett passes the fitness test!

Could make sense if Tippett wasn't Tippett.

Gary Rohan would make more sense.

 

3 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

I'd rather Papley

100% yes. Swap for watts. But papley is worth more. No way do want or need Tippett. Hes a spud

*something witty but heavily saying no*

Doesn't really deserve an actual response...

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

1 minute ago, TRIGON said:

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Yeah, everything's a nail to a hammer.

 

4 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Yeah....nah. 

 

 

Incidentally, this is my 1000th post. 

You're welcome.

Well played..

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Well played..

Thanks WWS. I had a four-page diatribe ready to go for the 'big one', but I thought I'd bury a 4-word throwaway in a nonsense thread that will be forgotten in a matter of days. 

4 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

watts IS going - it is simply what we can get for him (listen to Trade Radio if you don’t believe me). They report the MFC have indicated they will accept a second round choice - I think remarkably, but we are where we are. 

I find it remarkable that we say what we will accept before they explore options. At the moment there are at least three clubs looking at Watts (including the Swans - hence the suggestion), yet we say second round is ok..

In my my business career we have always practised you play one off against the other, to maximise the outcome. We are giving everything away...

Another example is delisting Spencer, and we now know a couple of clubs are after him. We need to monetarise these opportunities!

Gee that doesn't sound like much does it. Cant we swap Jack for a mosquito fleet?

Respectfully.... I'll get back to you

...

Disrespectfully... you've got to be out of your tree !!

Cheers 

( Good luck with therapy by the way )

Edited October 2, 20178 yr by beelzebub

Can't we ask for someone good?

Rohan or Tippett for Watts.  I would keep Wattsy. 

5 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

 Could make sense, if Tippett passes the fitness test!

 

5 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

 Could make sense, if Tippett passes the fitness test!

 

5 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

 Could make sense, if Tippett passes the fitness test!

Is Tippett in his 30s. If he is , whats good about that. 

3 minutes ago, nosoupforme said:

 

 

Is Tippett in his 30s. If he is , whats good about that. 

ok 29. still the same give or take .plays like a 35 year old.

How about we get Jones from the swans,we give up our jones and watts. 

5 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

In my my business career we have always practised you play one off against the other, to maximise the outcome. We are giving everything away...

Another example is delisting Spencer, and we now know a couple of clubs are after him. We need to monetarise these opportunities!

Spencer is an unrestricted free agent.

There is only one very unlikely scenario where he holds any trade value, and that would've been another club asking for a trade to avoid free agency compensation dilution. And that would've been something token like pick 72 anyway.

There was nothing's to monetise.

If the lever deal bombs, because sydney refuse 1st round, then we could request alir alir. 

Edited October 2, 20178 yr by Deeprived Childhood

Even if Tippett was a FA and wanted to come here, I'd still say no.

If Watts wants out and picks Sydney, there are plenty of other options I'd be looking at.

Dont trade Watts in my opinion but If he is off to the swans id want Zac Jones as a swap . 

spud!

 

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Rohan or Tippett for Watts.  I would keep Wattsy. 

I say yes for Rohan as we have laid our cards on the table ahead of time with Watts so I originally expected Jackshyte compo. Why pay anything much for a player who has been cast loose by their club? 

But with the Swans interested we can deal on salary cap issues. We may have to take on Rohan's salary and most of Watts remaining 2 year contract as well. We only get this because the Swans have salary cap problems. This is lose lose but modern AFL reality. 

1 hour ago, nosoupforme said:

 

 

Is Tippett in his 30s. If he is , whats good about that. 

 

1 hour ago, nosoupforme said:

ok 29. still the same give or take .plays like a 35 year old.

Plays like someone about to retire  - it would be a bit like us trading on H this time last year (if only.....)

Probably wishful thinking but I'd ask about Oliver Florent if Watts settles on Sydney.