That game almost mirrored ours. Got within 8 but a slow start cost them. 

2 minutes ago, ding said:

Essendon absolutely deserve to be there.... they won when it counted.

Seems they have pride in the jumper. We could learn a lesson from them.

Exactly. Hate them but you're dead on.

2 minutes ago, ding said:

Essendon absolutely deserve to be there.... they won when it counted.

Seems they have pride in the jumper. We could learn a lesson from them.

I think we should look elsewhere for role models...

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

The same club that lost to Brisbane and has today barely squeezed past a side who lost its past two games by 104?

There were 4 points on offer in Round 23. Same as in the previous 22 Rounds.

Essendon doesn't "deserve" it any more than we do (if we make it) simply because they won in Round 23 and we lost.

If we make it, then we deserve it. If we don't make it, then we don't.

lol we lost twice this year to North. 

That ending was intense. Well and truly had my hopes up with 10 mins to go and a < three goal deficit. Enjoyed that despite the disappointing result. Another few hours of misery and stress to go unfortunately.

Essendon's final percentage 106.5, it we had put the Lions to the sword last week we wouldn't be in this incredibly stupid situation. 

I'm taking the pessimists approach, I think we're finishing 9th. But prove me wrong Adelaide!

watching essendon find a way & now watching tigers throwing everything at the saints to sow up a top 4 spot makes me so god dam depressed. melbourne players should be absolutely ashamed of themselves 

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

The same club that lost to Brisbane and has today barely squeezed past a side who lost its past two games by 104?

There were 4 points on offer in Round 23. Same as in the previous 22 Rounds.

Essendon doesn't "deserve" it any more than we do (if we make it) simply because they won in Round 23 and we lost.

If we make it, then we deserve it. If we don't make it, then we don't.

Such logic.

Surely you're at the wrong website today? ?

1 minute ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I think we should look elsewhere for role models...

I agree 100%. Unfortunately it is without doubt that Essendon decided their own finals future, but we didnt.

Typical Melbourne.

4 minutes ago, ding said:

If they win today, when it truly counts, then they deserve it more than we do.

 

What if they lose then?

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

What if they lose then?

They wont. You are hoping for something that wont happen..

1 minute ago, ding said:

lol we lost twice this year to North. 

Yes, we did.

Neither team is that good. Your argument is simply that Essendon won the final game and therefore "deserves" to play finals whilst we lost the final game and therefore don't "deserve" to play finals. As if the criteria for playing finals is to win the final game.

A team deserves to play finals if it finishes the year 8th or higher. If that happens to us by 7.10pm, then we deserve it.

Just to rub a little salt into the wound. Bombers won by 15 points. If we had not taken the foot off the pedal against the Lions we would now by in the finals.

Just now, ding said:

They wont. You are hoping for something that wont happen..

Don't avoid the question - of course they might. We just watched Freo come within a bee's knob of beating Essendon and nobody thought that would happen.

If West Coast lose today, do they deserve finals more or less than Melbourne?

Just now, titan_uranus said:

Yes, we did.

Neither team is that good. Your argument is simply that Essendon won the final game and therefore "deserves" to play finals whilst we lost the final game and therefore don't "deserve" to play finals. As if the criteria for playing finals is to win the final game.

A team deserves to play finals if it finishes the year 8th or higher. If that happens to us by 7.10pm, then we deserve it.

Disagree. If we get in it will be because someone ELSE did the job for us. When we had a chance to decide own own destiny, we shanked it. 

I personally will be embarrassed if we play finals because we dont deserve to be there.

I can't believe how many people think the same club that lost to us on their home deck is a lay-down misere to beat the ladder leaders. Of course it could happen, but my word. Oh wait, they BOTH lost to us on their home deck, so we're obviously the better side, and therefore deserve to make finals...

Not only do WCE have to win, they have to do it by 4 goals.

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Don't avoid the question - of course they might. We just watched Freo come within a bee's [censored] of beating Essendon and nobody thought that would happen.

If West Coast lose today, do they deserve finals more or less than Melbourne?

Sorry, i thought you were still talking about Essendon.

If WCE lose today, we still dont deserve to be there. Them losing will not make us more worthy regardless. Our finals participation will be by default only.

1 minute ago, ding said:

Disagree. If we get in it will be because someone ELSE did the job for us. When we had a chance to decide own own destiny, we shanked it. 

I personally will be embarrassed if we play finals because we dont deserve to be there.

This is ridiculous, MFCSS rubbish.

If we get in it will be because we won enough games during the season, with enough percentage to finish in the top 8.

We could have won the first 12 games, or lost the first 10 and won the last 12 games, or some other combination. At the end of the season, it doesn't f*cking matter. If we finish 8th, then we deserve it by definition.

You can be disappointed we didn't take the chance given to us to control our destiny. You can be disappointed we all miss out on the euphoria of winning our final game and knowing we make finals because of it. You can be disappointed we didn't beat a non-finalist when we should have. All of that is legitimate. But this stupid argument that we don't deserve it if we make it is just that, stupid.

Just now, ding said:

Sorry, i thought you were still talking about Essendon.

If WCE lose today, we still dont deserve to be there. Them losing will not make us more worthy regardless. Our finals participation will be by default only.

Bollocks

1 minute ago, Chook said:

I can't believe how many people think the same club that lost to us on their home deck is a lay-down misere to beat the ladder leaders. Of course it could happen, but my word.

Not only do they have to win, they have to do it by 4 goals.

I know. Ding's position is even better - he actually *wants* that to happen so the players suffer, and prefers that over the alternative of being able to say "well we fell over the line, but at least we got there" so much that he is actually going to actively barrack for West Coast!

Well I dunno but these results are turning out pretty cap right now. It annoys me that Richmond will get top 4 and we might miss 

8 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I know. Ding's position is even better - he actually *wants* that to happen so the players suffer, and prefers that over the alternative of being able to say "well we fell over the line, but at least we got there" so much that he is actually going to actively barrack for West Coast!

His stance is bemusing, and borderline funny because he is sticking with it even in the face of irrefutable facts.

Frees: Injectors 28  Wanchors 15

fmd, do umpires get swabbed?

Sounds like a few in here should be phoning Lifeline. 

aints have racked the cue