10 hours ago, Garbo said:

We played our home game against them at Etihad last year so make that only 2 times

My bad. 

I was thinking 2015.  Time flies,

9 hours ago, mattjm said:

60,000 will never happen 

Particularly when there's such good snow!!

Nothing like a sudden death game to shove a rocket up this team. Don't think we'll see back to back insipid performance by Jones so let's try be confident about this one fellow D'landers. 

I (now) cant see Watts going out and Weid coming in. A forward line of TMac and Weid would be too unfamiliar. It would have to be Pedo for the Weid.

In round 1, Riewoldt was again dominating us until he got injured.

We must play someone on him at all times, if we allow him to run loose we will lose.

8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

In round 1, Riewoldt was again dominating us until he got injured.

We must play someone on him at all times, if we allow him to run loose we will lose.

Im hoping the concussion suffered late in the game and kept him off will be lingering.Id Send Frost to him and tell him tackle hard . 

In: Hannan, Weideman, JKH, Brayshaw

Out: Watts, Pedersen, Melksham (suspended), Maynard

Watts needs to be dropped on lack of effort over the last three weeks.

While Maynard showed some promise on the weekend, I think he makes the balance of our midfield worse, because he is another player who doesn’t like to kick. I see both JKH and Brayshaw as being better suited to playing alongside Oliver, Tyson, Lewis and Petracca (as a midfielder) who are all prone to overusing handball.

I think Weideman has gone past Pedersen as a forward, who has been disrupted by Gawn being in the side.

On 05/08/2017 at 11:15 PM, Petraccattack said:

Lets shock and awe the Saints and get back on track for finals

 

In - Weideman, Brayshaw, Stretch, Hannan, Keilty

Out - Melksham (susp),  Frost,  Pedersen,  Watts, Harmes

B :     N.Jetta      /    O.McDonald   /   M.Hibberd

HB :  J.Lewis    /     T.McDonald     /   J.Hunt

C   :   B.Vince   /      C.Oliver           /  C.Salem

HF :  M.Hannan  /   D.Keilty    /      A.Brayshaw

F :   J.Garlett     /     S.Weideman   /  C.Petracca

R  :  M.Gawn      /   J.Viney          /   N.Jones 

IC :  A Neal Bullen  /  D.Tyson  /   C.Maynard   /   B.Stretch

 

Keilty is miles off it. We'd be accused of tanking if we played him. (And yes I have watched him play VFL)

36 minutes ago, CityDee said:

Im hoping the concussion suffered late in the game and kept him off will be lingering.Id Send Frost to him and tell him tackle hard . 

I'd be lining you Tmac on him with the instruction to push fwd if at all possible and make him accountable the other way.. Reiwoldt loves cheating his way out the back for a Jo the Goose goal these days..

38 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

In: Hannan, Weideman, JKH, Brayshaw

Out: Watts, Pedersen, Melksham (suspended), Maynard

Watts needs to be dropped on lack of effort over the last three weeks.

While Maynard showed some promise on the weekend, I think he makes the balance of our midfield worse, because he is another player who doesn’t like to kick. I see both JKH and Brayshaw as being better suited to playing alongside Oliver, Tyson, Lewis and Petracca (as a midfielder) who are all prone to overusing handball.

I think Weideman has gone past Pedersen as a forward, who has been disrupted by Gawn being in the side.

I know many will say no but I think Kennedy should get a run. VFL form is good and he has some niggle about him. Brayshaw could be an option. 

Reading the comments here we need some outside run and need to look at the trade period and draft. Kelly in the WAFL may be worth a look. Maybe a good option if other Kelly is not available!

A wi  against the saints and we may just make it. A lose, we can all talk about trades and draft day !

 

God I hope the saints r at full strength cause it seems when the opposition has key players out we go to water. 

I have a bad feeling that we will not win any of our remaining games which will be very disappointing if it eventuates. 

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

In round 1, Riewoldt was again dominating us until he got injured.

We must play someone on him at all times, if we allow him to run loose we will lose.

We don't seem to learn too much from our mistakes so I wouldn't hold ur breath Clint. 

Presuming Hannan comes in after his "rest," does anyone think he can be molded into the gut running type of outside mid we require?

Good pace and can kick with both feet. 

 

Apart from him and Salem, I can't really see any other options on our current list. 

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by Domgus Petrogan
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Too bad Hogan is missing, he loves playing the Saints. Always tears them apart.

Salem's not that quick from what I've observed. What about Hunt on one wing and Hannan on the other?

4 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

In round 1, Riewoldt was again dominating us until he got injured.

We must play someone on him at all times, if we allow him to run loose we will lose.

Perfect job for Jack Watts this week...

We need to show this champion some respect and Jack could learn so much from this match up!

Reiwoldt is the perfect role model for Jack.

I gave up trying to pick the changes week to week but I'll make two points.

The first is if we are going to do any good in the finals we must have our best players playing and playing well.  So whilst someone like Watts has been disappointing he must stay in the team and find form.

Secondly I know JKH is not flavour of the month around here and I can see why but I thought he was far from our worst against NM and he just keeps racking them up at VFL level.  I don't take much notice of low 30's at VFL level but he's a regular 40+ player.  He can obviously win the ball and he has good skills.  His treatment will be interesting to see.

9 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

I gave up trying to pick the changes week to week but I'll make two points.

The first is if we are going to do any good in the finals we must have our best players playing and playing well.  So whilst someone like Watts has been disappointing he must stay in the team and find form.

Secondly I know JKH is not flavour of the month around here and I can see why but I thought he was far from our worst against NM and he just keeps racking them up at VFL level.  I don't take much notice of low 30's at VFL level but he's a regular 40+ player.  He can obviously win the ball and he has good skills.  His treatment will be interesting to see.

JKH is also pretty tidy with his disposal , which we are sorely lacking 

happy for him and billy stretch to come in the offer some skill and dash . Harmes needs a spell, I love his attitude and gut running  but so often ruins his hard work with his disposal

I am surprised that no one has pinged Trac. His last 2 games have been poor. Trying to take on the field and getting caught in the tackle and holding the ball. If you want to make a statement then let Trac know he isn't an automatic selection every week. Also can the coaches instruct Clarry to kick the ball. If we want quicker movement out of stoppages we need to stop over handling and kick the ball. Kick it into space and let someone run onto the ball instead of 3 handballs and trying to pinpoint someone in a one on one.

Hannan is very important, as he is the mobile 3rd target and where is a small goal kicking forward as we have lost the spread of goals from the mid field in the last 2 games. Richmond have shown the effectiveness of a set up with quick small forwards who run to space with only 1 key forward.

Need to see if Salem's ankle is ok later in week and if Melksham gets a week as the 2 potential outs and Trac maybe. In Hannan, JKH and Gus.

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by Older demon

16 hours ago, GoD's67 said:

Outs:

Melksham susp Pedersen & Hunt (rested, hasn't looked himself since knocked himself out against Crows), or Salem if injured

In

Hannan. Weideman & Wagner (speed)

I'm not sure that Wagner has speed. I remember a game earlier this year at the MCG where he was easily run away from. Can't remember who we were playing, but it was in front of the MFC members with our opponents kicking to the Punt Road goals.

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by La Dee-vina Comedia

Melksham has been cleared, I am in shock.

It looked like it deserved weeks.

Melksham cleared

Salem should be dropped. Not rested or injured.

48 minutes ago, Older demon said:

I am surprised that no one has pinged Trac. His last 2 games have been poor. Trying to take on the field and getting caught in the tackle and holding the ball. If you want to make a statement then let Trac know he isn't an automatic selection every week. 

Don't reckon we can afford to drop him, I understand what you're saying however I think it's important for him to get continuity and experience in his game. Especially because it's the pointy end of the season and we need to utilise what we have. No point him playing in the VFL, he can be such a good game changer. Let's just hope he can turn it on for the rest of the year leading into those games that get played in September, I think they're known as finals

Edited August 7, 20178 yr by In Gawn we Trust

19 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Melksham has been cleared, I am in shock.

It looked like it deserved weeks.

I thought a fine at worst. He was lucky the GWS didn't flinch or react and played on as if nothing happened. Looked worse than what it was.