MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - ROUND 20

[Robbie57 2,022]

26 minutes ago, sue said:

Once again I am perplexed as to why Goodwin tells the next opponent in advance who will definitely be in the team.  I have no idea what attributes Maynard has that might make an opposition coach think about him for more than a microsecond, but I bet they do.  It also gives them an idea of who we might omit, again helping their planning. 

Why give them that advantage even if it is minor?  What advantage does it give us?  Or do footy clubs leak so badly that everyone who matters will know anyway?

I dont know but it seems that the teams are known by the industry generally on a Thursday and the AFL machine likes its news to include this sort of stuff. I suspect the teams are put in to AFL on Thursday morning or late Wednesday and possibly shared confidentially. Does anyone know if this happens?

 

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27 minutes ago, sue said:

Once again I am perplexed as to why Goodwin tells the next opponent in advance who will definitely be in the team.  I have no idea what attributes Maynard has that might make an opposition coach think about him for more than a microsecond, but I bet they do.  It also gives them an idea of who we might omit, again helping their planning. 

Why give them that advantage even if it is minor?  What advantage does it give us?  Or do footy clubs leak so badly that everyone who matters will know anyway?

Simple. Because we are in charge of our own destiny. No surprises, nothing up the sleeve. Just hard work, week in, week out.

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29 minutes ago, sue said:

Once again I am perplexed as to why Goodwin tells the next opponent in advance who will definitely be in the team.  I have no idea what attributes Maynard has that might make an opposition coach think about him for more than a microsecond, but I bet they do.  It also gives them an idea of who we might omit, again helping their planning. 

Why give them that advantage even if it is minor?  What advantage does it give us?  Or do footy clubs leak so badly that everyone who matters will know anyway?

I disagree that there is any advantage of disclosure or non disclosure - can you please clarify what the advantage is from your perspective @sue. All AFL clubs plan for a myriad of options - and 12 hours early notice would mean sfa.

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2 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Simple. Because we are in charge of our own destiny. No surprises, nothing up the sleeve. Just hard work, week in, week out.

Correct weight sir.

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I think it will be 

pedo jones maynard Vince

hogan JKH Trengove ANB

Edited August 3, 2017 by DaveyJones'sLocker

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11 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

I think it will be 

pedo jones maynard Vince

hogan JKH Trengove ANB

I can't see ANB getting dropped, I think JKH will come out.

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8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I can't see ANB getting dropped, I think JKH will come out.

Then who else then? 

Hannan ? 3 touches I prefer him in tho.

[daisycutter 29,807]

4 hours ago, hardtack said:

"It was a horrible loss, as horrible as I can remember."  Not hard to see why your words were construed the way they were. 

Given the playing conditions, the fact the Roos had a pretty much full strength team on board, their familiarity with the ground and the fact that they were coming off a strong performance the week before, the loss was probably not as surprising as many seem to think.

1 min into last qtr and scores tied.......with a gale blowing towards our goals

it was definitely a horrible loss. hardtack

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13 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

Then who else then? 

Hannan ? 3 touches I prefer him in tho.

Harmes for me.

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10 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

Then who else then? 

Hannan ? 3 touches I prefer him in tho.

Depends if Hannan is injured or not, he has enough credits in the bank.

I would say Hogan, Trengove and JKH for Jones, Vince and Maynard.  Not sure they will replace Hogan with another key forward. Having said all that, I wouldn't be surprised if Watts is dropped either.

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46 minutes ago, Danelska said:

I disagree that there is any advantage of disclosure or non disclosure - can you please clarify what the advantage is from your perspective @sue. All AFL clubs plan for a myriad of options - and 12 hours early notice would mean sfa.

If they have to plan for a "myriad" of options, I agree that removing one is no great advantage.  But there is not a myriad, just a few, particularly when you name who is in.  For example, unless there is a rumour that Gawn is injured, they will not plan on how to take on Spencer.  But if you name a new bloke, I bet they do a quick review of everything they can find out about him.  On the other hand, if you argue that there are many options to consider, then an extra 12 hours for planning is a help to the opponent.

As to the hairy-chested 'we are masters of our own destiny, we can tell them the truth' argument, I suppose we'd be happy then for the phone between Goodwin and the bench to be on open mike?

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1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

1 min into last qtr and scores tied.......with a gale blowing towards our goals

it was definitely a horrible loss. hardtack

Yep. As horrible as i can remember? Perhaps not but my memory is not what it was.

The two losses most horrible losses this year are the last game and the Freo game. Both times we were in positions to smash them and failed to deliver.

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Has Viney trained much this week?

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I've got a feeling they will pick Weid for this weekend. Not sure if its a good choice.

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29 minutes ago, sue said:

If they have to plan for a "myriad" of options, I agree that removing one is no great advantage.  But there is not a myriad, just a few, particularly when you name who is in.  For example, unless there is a rumour that Gawn is injured, they will not plan on how to take on Spencer.  But if you name a new bloke, I bet they do a quick review of everything they can find out about him.  On the other hand, if you argue that there are many options to consider, then an extra 12 hours for planning is a help to the opponent.

As to the hairy-chested 'we are masters of our own destiny, we can tell them the truth' argument, I suppose we'd be happy then for the phone between Goodwin and the bench to be on open mike?

I hear what you're saying, and I see a distinct difference between detailing strategy vs naming individuals. There are no unknown quantities re personnel - however its up to the individual players from opposing teams to do their due diligence - not just the coaches feeding them info. 

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Mark Stevens reporting Patton may be out with a hammy.. Absolutely massive if true

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Did someone say Vince Jones was back

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[RedLegs23 941]

Patton out - SEN just announced

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This is the game that will show us if we have progressed significantly from last year, the team is down after last weeks loss. Now they need to all step up and win against a higher class opponent than we lost to last week, if we want to make the finals this year.

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22 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Patton out - SEN just announced

Huge

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Great video!!! 

Edited August 3, 2017 by Demon77

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In: Jones, Pedersen, Vince, Maynard

Out: Jesse Hogan (shoulder), Mitch Hannan (rested), Jack Trengove, Jay Kennedy-Harris

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43 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Patton out - SEN just announced

Considering what key forwards have done to us all season, them missing Patton and Cameron makes this game a lot more winnable.

[Lord Travis 10,763]

Patton and Cameron out is huge for us.

We should be able to win this one!