WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN

[rpfc 27,687]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Always next year with some on here

Do you reckon we are a chance on Saturday night? The bookies don’t see us as a realistic Premier this year... #believe

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

10 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

One of Brown’s issues in 2020 was his fitness. That being the case, one of the best arguments for him coming to the Melbourne Football Club could well be the presence at the Demos of fitness guru Darren Burgess, its strength and conditioning manager. If anyone can get him back on track and kicking goals, it’s this bloke.

Im probably behind the times but do we definitely have Burgess for another year?

[picket fence 15,761]

12 hours ago, Mono said:

Would not touch Brown with a barge pole. Too fragile, too limited. If he doesn't catch it, he's done.

The best (ie big coin) forwards do more than catch it; even the King boys. Brown can't.

His highlights reels would Beg to differ!!

Edited October 21, 2020 by picket fence

[Binmans PA 26,713]

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

If North really want to offload him, we should be able to get him for cheaper than a 2nd round pick.

Couple of points about this.

1) You're assuming North want to get rid of him, not the other way around.

2) They essentially pushed him out the door under Shaw, so they can't ask for the world, but doesn't mean we can get him for a bag of crisps. He'll still likely cost at least a second rounder, possibly more.

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 minute ago, A F said:

Couple of points about this.

1) You're assuming North want to get rid of him, not the other way around.

2) They essentially pushed him out the door under Shaw, so they can't ask for the world, but doesn't mean we can get him for a bag of crisps. He'll still likely cost at least a second rounder, possibly more.

North don't want him.  When you air that, your bargaining power is significantly reduced.

[Binmans PA 26,713]

26 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

North don't want him.  When you air that, your bargaining power is significantly reduced.

Yeah, hence my 'they can't ask for the world'. But you said less than a second rounder. Good luck with that. Providing Brown passes the fitness test, if we could land him for a single second rounder, I'd take it and run.

[DemonOX 8,570]

3 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Sometimes you have to pay a little more to get what you need.

We generally have to pay a little more ALL the time red. (until we become a desitnation club, if that ever happens)

[Skuit 9,382]

It has been raised a couple of times in terms of our players - but those rejecting Ben Brown based on some perception of flawed attributes need a psychologist. A leading goal-kicker wants to come to us for probably a second-round pick, but no he can't play below his legs. What? We have been struggling to kick goals, but Brown is the wrong fit. What? It feels like a special sub-branch of MFCSS. Anyway, good luck to any opposition team 0trying to work out to do with this lot in and rotating through the forward-line. 

Brown
Jackson
Weid
Fritsch
Pickett
Petracca
Gawn

Another small pressure forward would be nice. Would love Brown and Smith as inclusions and then throw a bit of bank at McDonald-Tipungwuti. KPF, left wing and extra small forward sorted. Another running half-back and we have no holes left in our best 22, with decent depth. 

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

SEN saying he had a medical at the club yesterday.

North will ask for our 2nd rnd pick:  # 23

But he hasn't said he wants to join us. 

[dl4e 5,702]

A so called key position forward, North don't want him anymore. What is really going on ?

[John Crow Batty 8,372]

3 minutes ago, dl4e said:

A so called key position forward, North don't want him anymore. What is really going on ?

Usually these scenarios involve WAGS but not in this case I believe.

[DeeSpencer 23,654]

13 hours ago, Garbo said:

So you are happy to give up any chance of competing in deep finals for the next few years on the hope that Weid and Jackson in the absence of Brown develop so we can contend in 3-4 years time assuming everything goes to plan.

I think if we bring Brown in we’ll stuff around trying to play 3 talls and then eventually settle on one of Brown or Weid and won’t be significantly better.

There’s so many other positions to improve and if we invest in hard running skillful players the goals will come.

[wizardinoz 2,163]

How many years would he want?

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 minute ago, wizardinoz said:

How many years would he want?

3 at the very least you would think, considering he was holding out for 4 with North.

As LH mentions above, the wheels are certainly in motion from our end in terms of getting him across to the club, but I'd say the length of the contract and how much money is involved might be the deciding factor for Brown, especially if a few clubs are interested.

[Skuit 9,382]

1 minute ago, wizardinoz said:

How many years would he want?

I would expect four years. Is 27. As another poster pointed out all of the leading goal-kickers this year in Hawkins, Kennedy, and Dixon are all 30 or above. 

[Pulp Fritschon 647]

If he is having a medical with us I'd say it must be over the line. 

[Constant Mongrel 571]

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Garry and Tim

 

@SENBreakfast

 

Garry Lyon on Melbourne's pursuit of Ben Brown: I think he would only add to their forward line setup, his very best is great but it's just about whether he gets back to it. He would take a bit of pressure off Sam Weideman - you're not giving up the farm for (Brown) though.

where's the farm?

[chook fowler 18,578]

23 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

SEN saying he had a medical at the club yesterday.

North will ask for our 2nd rnd pick:  # 23

But he hasn't said he wants to join us. 

pick 23 for an injured 28 year old who is not wanted by his club seems overs to me.

[58er 5,705]

1 minute ago, chook fowler said:

pick 23 for an injured 28 year old who is not wanted by his club seems overs to me.

Don't you know why players have Medicals Chook?

( refer Trengove) 

Let the medics medic !!!

we are not doctors only Clairvoyants on health!!!

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Poor management and decision making. Knocked back 4 years at $750 last year. North had a gutful. Buyer beware.

[58er 5,705]

20 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think if we bring Brown in we’ll stuff around trying to play 3 talls and then eventually settle on one of Brown or Weid and won’t be significantly better.

There’s so many other positions to improve and if we invest in hard running skillful players the goals will come.

Yes but why not go they At  the same time DeeS 

Can easily be fine in draft selective recruiting of B+ players ie day a Lyons or similar but outside runner Narkle ? 
whu nit Stephenson as a mid? Although a bit timid perhaps!

[Wiseblood 24,636]

6 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

pick 23 for an injured 28 year old who is not wanted by his club seems overs to me.

If the medical comes up fine, then the injuries don't worry me too much.  He's been pretty much injury free prior to this year.

The second round pick does feel like slight overs to me considering that they don't want him.  

[Superunknown 3,636]

31 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

SEN saying he had a medical at the club yesterday.

North will ask for our 2nd rnd pick:  # 23

But he hasn't said he wants to join us. 

Medical ok -> offer -> nominate -> negotations with north -> done

 

?

 

you could probably infer that if he’s doing a medical he’s good to come to Demonland

[58er 5,705]

28 minutes ago, dl4e said:

A so called key position forward, North don't want him anymore. What is really going on ?

Had a interview and medical and either more Clubs  chasing And roll repeat thisOR 

Dees will make an offer to Brown and real negotiations will commence .

Watch this space!!!

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

14 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

pick 23 for an injured 28 year old who is not wanted by his club seems overs to me.

I wonder if too much is being made of his injury.  Unless North were telling porkies nearly 2 months ago, reports suggest the knee injury wasn't serious:

“Ben had an MRI yesterday and was cleared of any ligament damage,” Rawlings said.  “He sustained pinching of the lateral knee joint and reported pain and discomfort, but both have subsided." August 7 Report

He then had surgery.  Detailed report in here:  Sept 2 Report

This time last year he would be a mid 1st round pick.  Not sure the injury downgrades his trade value much lower than #23.  Also there may be 'steak knives''/later pick swaps involved.

Edited October 22, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero