1 minute ago, Socrates said:

Melbourne only like it when the heat is off..........Familiar scenario again this year........When the other team brings pressure Melbourne crumble.

Like how we fought back against Adelaide, or worked our way back into the game a fortnight ago?

If anything we prefer the heat being on - when we're favourites we struggle.

Our high zone does not work at the MCG. This cannot be disputed. We get caught out on the switch badly and our midfield just can't cover the ground enough to get back and help the defense. Really disappointing half of football. Leaders and coaches need to fire up and earn their pay now. A loss to another team below us with a top 8 spot on the line is unacceptable.

4 minutes ago, Abe said:

Need to fix the contest. We are getting belted out of the middle. 

Time to drag the leaders aside and give them a spray. 

This sums it up completely

time for melbourne players to step up and beat the pies.  virtually everyone needs to lift, need an inspirational half time talk, we have had our putrid quarter now is the time to come out and play football.

The players spent the whole week talking about not bombing it long because they have dangerous intercept players. And the players have ignored it and 95% of the inside 50s have been bombed. What can goody do if the players don't listen??

Why do we persist with TMAC up forward? It worked once nearly 2 months ago, it hasn't since. Stupid stupid stupid.

Our mids have been pathetic, don't want it enough, our backs panic too much and just kick in hope, and our forwards don't even look interested. BTW great idea to take Petracca off the ground straight after he kicked a goal, then to only have him come back on 40 seconds later.

At the moment we don't know what to do off-field, just as much as on-field.

Vince is finished, Lewis obviously came here to fill up his retirement fund and Salem is very very soft.

And can we please for the love of god move Vince to Sidebottom. He isn't doing any good in the back-line and Sidebottom is just cutting us up at will.

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2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

We didn't get rid of him, he asked to leave.  Not much you can do about that.

Not correct. He just wanted some more money and we pushed him out. 

Just now, Lord Travis said:

Our high zone does not work at the MCG. This cannot be disputed. We get caught out on the switch badly and our midfield just can't cover the ground enough to get back and help the defense. Really disappointing half of football. Leaders and coaches need to fire up and earn their pay now. A loss to another team below us with a top 8 spot on the line is unacceptable.

And to not be able to win at the G is inexcusable!!!!

Is anyone else as concerned about this as me? 1 game this year. Not good enough and our game plan is clearly not holding up on this big ground. 

God help us when we go to Subi!

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Like how we fought back against Adelaide, or worked our way back into the game a fortnight ago?

If anything we prefer the heat being on - when we're favourites we struggle.

We beat Adelaide so that excuses everything.

Hunt and Tracs to the mids. TMac ruck. Pedo to CHF. 

Just now, Redleg said:

Not correct. He just wanted some more money and we pushed him out. 

He's on less money. Fair enough he wanted to go but what did we get in exchange? Ben Kennedy. Shocking trade.

6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Shuffled back here to say we're still in it.

Yeah, we've been poor.  No one would argue that.  But Goodwin has shown that he can swing the changes and motivate the side to get themselves back in it.  This game is far from over... I hope...

Totally agree, we have won from much further behind than this. We're playing poorly and stil in it. Collingwood have been average in last halfs this season, we have been great. We've got this

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

We beat Adelaide so that excuses everything.

Is that what I said, or even implied?  No.

For someone who seems relatively intelligent you say some stupid things.

Viney is co captain and needs to show some leadership. We should be 10 goals down.

If I were Goody Id drop the next person who handballs to someone with a pies player next to them.

Well the bottom line is: this is our season on the line today.

 

Lets see if this mob has any ticker  and do Neale Daniher proud.

Harmes, Bugg, Hannan almost invisible, and ANB with 14 disposals but at 43% efficiency. Alongside that, the majority of the team with under 10 possessions, including Viney, Watts and Lewis. If we lose this, only ourselves to blame, especially when Collingwood have come to play.

This year still a step too far I fear, though no Hogan (it shouldn't be just for Garlett and Petracca, and Tom MacDonald is not a KPF) and no Max are having major negative ramifications on our structures and overall game plan.

 

Certainly the worst we've played this year.

Our better players have struggled to be clean and have looked off most of the day.

Our forwards have laid 8 tackles (11 if you include Tommy Mac who has played some time in the ruck). Bugg and Garlett are yet to lay a tackle.

Can't see us winning this. We haven't lost the disposal count like this all year.

Where is Viney? 

This game is also highlighting that we need another key forward to go with Hogan. We need to target someone like Sam Reid.

2 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Our high zone does not work at the MCG. This cannot be disputed. We get caught out on the switch badly and our midfield just can't cover the ground enough to get back and help the defense. Really disappointing half of football. Leaders and coaches need to fire up and earn their pay now. A loss to another team below us with a top 8 spot on the line is unacceptable.

Agree with your sentiment. Especially the press. 

Would like to see the boya fire up but sadly from ehat I've seen we are not a finals side IMO

Were too sloppy with the ball and no tall forwards/ruck is killing us.

We're not a bad side but we're not a god one either. Happy to be proven wrong in the aecond half 

Just now, leave it to deever said:

Lets see if this mob has any ticker  and do Neale Daniher proud.

It's nothing to do with having ticker, it's all about smarts, skill and execution under pressure.

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Missed the opportunity of not playing Spencer. I understand he is underdone but structurally it would have completely straighten us up.

 

I don't think so 'dazzle', he was out of touch in the Casey game (missed too much footy) and Grundy would have torn him to pieces.

Grundy was always going to be a problem with Max out...their mids are getting a free ride from Grundy and our poor performing on ballers.

Lets see if Oliver & Viney can stand up in the 2nd half, if not we're done.

 

We're being beaten on the inside and the outside as well as 'teeing up' mark of the year kicks to Jeremy Howe. Only way I can see out of this is more tackling pressure and running it more out of the backline - admittedly the latter is very high risk.

10 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

 

MAx happy not playing.

That would make ..... 1 !!!

Just now, bing181 said:

It's nothing to do with having ticker, it's all about smarts, skill and execution under pressure.

Beg to differ. The handballing is part of players not taking any responsibility at times.

3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

This game is also highlighting that we need another key forward to go with Hogan. We need to target someone like Sam Reid.

Pedo would be good up there.