On 09/08/2017 at 05:42, McQueen said:

Fark me.

If we put Hogan up for trade after the year from Hell he's had I would be absolutely astonished.

Unless he wants to be traded.

  On 09/08/2017 at 05:42, McQueen said:

Fark me.

If we put Hogan up for trade after the year from Hell he's had I would be absolutely astonished. It would reek of poor behaviour and even poorer ethical standards given the process it took to get his extension signed.

Just, I don't know sometimes how the mods even allow this shite to stay on this board.

I wonder how the posters who are suggesting Hogan could be trade bait would feel if they were moved on from their workplace if in the same year their father died, they'd had cancer and broken their collarbone. Or if they feel the above would effect their productivity.

I'll seen zero information from anyone I know involved in the mfc or anywhere else that suggestes there is a micro of truth to the idea we'd shop Jesse hogan around, I doubt we'd accept the deal for lever and McGovern. 

Jesse is a freakish talent who if he'd played all year without the injuries and off field stuff would probably be top 3 in the Coleman and we'd probably be locked In the 8, he's been a massive loss and we will be so much better in 2018 with him back in the side 

If this is true will not be happy, if the footy club is going to trade Jesse it would a very stupid move one that will come back and bite on them on the a&#.

I just emailed the club and they just sent me an e-mail saying that this NOT true. Jesse is staying in the Red and 

  On 09/08/2017 at 06:40, deebug said:

I just emailed the club and they just sent me an e-mail saying that this NOT true. Jesse is staying in the Red and 

Best news this week!!! I believe you.

Any journo peddling this bull shite should be barred from any access to the MFC and its players.

They are essentially calling our coaches thoughtless, because you would need to be a pretty poorly run footy club to put Hogan up for trade with what hes been through this season and with all the close mates at the club  that have helped him through it, not to mention the support from the club in general.

The media just get worse and worse.

There is no chance Hogan is going anywhere.  Based on the year he's had and how quickly he got back to the club, how much the players love having him out there, combined with him finding some good form in his last two games before doing his AC joint demonstrates he's happy at the club. 

Are we going to do this every year for the rest of his career? He's a genuine star so there'll always be some kind of BS conjecture in the media towards the end of a season. We just have to get over it and not subscribe to the crap that these journos offer up.

Tigerland Full Forward looking for a new Club if they go out in the first round of finals. I heard it in the confessional......

I believe after what Jesse has been through this year, and the club supporting him with family, time off and medical support, he is pretty much tied to the MFC for his career now. He will want to repay the faith and support the club has given him and it will be a mental thing for him to try and achieve success for the MFC. I doubt he will want to leave a club that has been good to him and his family.

Obviously the club will want him to stay too as he is a freakish talent and someone we can build a forward line around.

I have no inside knowledge and do not know Jesse, but that's my opinion.

  On 09/08/2017 at 07:42, willmoy said:

Tigerland Full Forward looking for a new Club if they go out in the first round of finals. I heard it in the confessional......

They have a full forward?

Would just be silly to to this right now. I kind of have this feeling he'll end up back home eventually (sorry if that upsets some here) but he's gotta be here for this contract at least.

  On 09/08/2017 at 07:42, willmoy said:

Tigerland Full Forward looking for a new Club if they go out in the first round of finals. I heard it in the confessional......

Jack Riewoldt leaving? What is the relevance to Hogan if I may ask? A trade?

  On 09/08/2017 at 07:58, Lord Travis said:

I believe after what Jesse has been through this year, and the club supporting him with family, time off and medical support, he is pretty much tied to the MFC for his career now. He will want to repay the faith and support the club has given him and it will be a mental thing for him to try and achieve success for the MFC. I doubt he will want to leave a club that has been good to him and his family.

Obviously the club will want him to stay too as he is a freakish talent and someone we can build a forward line around.

I have no inside knowledge and do not know Jesse, but that's my opinion.

Sorry, I don't buy into to this at all.  Players these days do what is best for them and you can't blame them

Jesse is loved by one and all at the club and has more ties in Melbourne off field than most know about and a strong support group. Too many journos writing too much rubbish and innuendo at this time of year.

Do we know who it was who started this [censored] rumour?

i actually find it offensive, and would like to confront this "journalist"

Didn't the suggestion of trading Hogan start on here and then it evolved into a rumour?

I really don't care anymore if players leave cause there Is nothing we can do about it. The AFL has created an environment where the players can basically do whatever they want regardless if they r contracted or not also the club does what it wants regardless of what supporters think.  

Im even at the point where I don't have a fav player anymore cause of the footy environment. 

What ever happens will happen. 

  On 10/08/2017 at 04:16, DemonOX said:

I really don't care anymore if players leave cause there Is nothing we can do about it. The AFL has created an environment where the players can basically do whatever they want regardless if they r contracted or not also the club does what it wants regardless of what supporters think.  

Im even at the point where I don't have a fav player anymore cause of the footy environment. 

What ever happens will happen. 

yep

free agency for all is effectively in place when players can 'demand' a trade to the club of their choice, even when under contract

i still think that the counterweight to free agency is that players should be more commodities and if a club wants to send a player to a different club, as long as the terms of the contract are honoured (in terms of length and value of the agreement), so be it

  On 10/08/2017 at 04:13, Sir Why You Little said:

Do we know who it was who started this [censored] rumour?

i actually find it offensive, and would like to confront this "journalist"

David King just thru it up as a hypothetical a couple weeks back on SEN's 'Pure Footy'. He mentioned whether the Dees would entertain a trade off of Hogan for Lever. 

Then the legs grew...

  On 10/08/2017 at 04:16, DemonOX said:

I really don't care anymore if players leave cause there Is nothing we can do about it. The AFL has created an environment where the players can basically do whatever they want regardless if they r contracted or not also the club does what it wants regardless of what supporters think.  

Im even at the point where I don't have a fav player anymore cause of the footy environment. 

What ever happens will happen. 

So if a Clayton Oliver or Jack Viney left, you would feel nothing?

I don't know about you but I'd care a whole lot if we lost some key players.

  On 10/08/2017 at 04:38, RedLegs23 said:

David King just thru it up as a hypothetical a couple weeks back on SEN's 'Pure Footy'. He mentioned whether the Dees would entertain a trade off of Hogan for Lever. 

Then the legs grew...

Mr. Rent a Quote. 

It is offensive to even think those words, let alone speak them considering what Jesse has been through this year. 

If Jesse had asked to return to WA, i couldn't begrudge him that, BUT to think that The MFC would trade him to the highest bidder whilst he is still grieving is just beyond thinking about. 

King should shut it. 

  On 10/08/2017 at 04:39, Wiseblood said:

So if a Clayton Oliver or Jack Viney left, you would feel nothing?

I don't know about you but I'd care a whole lot if we lost some key players.

If they leave then imo they don't want to be there then it would be c u later don't let the door hit u on the way out.  

I think I'm more invested in the team now rather than individuals. That's just the way I feel and it's only changed over the last few seasons.  

 

For those of you who missed the Demonland podcast last night, Troy Chaplin said Jesse will be doing some contact work on his shoulder at a session tomorrow, and could be back as early as next week.

"We're actually looking at doing some contact training with him on Saturday with a view that he may come back next week, depending on how it goes.

"His turnaround has been fantastic, he hasn't given up on the year, he really wants to come back and contribute to the team.

"We're looking forward to having him back because we know what sort of quality player he is. He's probably learned so much about himself this year, and his resilience, no-one can question that at all, and for a 22-year-old, it's quite unbelievable really."